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Clare GAA discussion thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    strange we made no changes , would have expected one or two , with tom devine starting and probably maurice getting a longer run as will mahoney , waterford will be stronger then the last day , still think swapping duggen for cuningham inside would be a better idea , senda and jack browne will feature again although i would think flanagan might start as he done nothing wrong to miss the last day , its definitely not our strongest by any measure of means but its no harm to have lads fighting for positions for the championship

    Flanagan was concussed last week from the previous game and not risked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Clareman wrote: »
    By the way 98 wasn't just about the replay, in the first game Waterford had gone out of their way to target Clare in every way possible from striking off the ball (Jamesey at the start, Gilly 2 minutes in), to sledging (Dalo's dead father being brought up, Davys marriage being questioned) to the sideline being marked to Flynn throwing Frank's boot into the crowd . Clare had a meeting after the game where everything Waterford did was discussed and how Clare were bullied the first day, Clare weren't going to be bullied the second day.

    In regards to Lynch, Tony Browne was the difference between Waterford winning and not, Lynch was tasked with stopping him the second day which he did, he completely dominated him but at the end of the game they swopped jerseys and shook on in. In old school that'd be the end of it but Waterford decided to whine to the press about it and led to Lynch being banned for 6 months with absolutely 0 evidence. I'm sure I speak for a lot of Clare supporters when I say we'll never forget Waterford for what they did to Clare that year.

    The process for banning Lynch was a kangaroo court but what he did merited the ban, I'm not talking about the swinging at the throw in but when it kicked off at the goals with Lohan and White wrestling and the ensuing melee, Lynch opened up on Brown with the hurl in the middle of the park. Most people were watching the fight but for some reason Browne and Lynch caught my eye. To say Lynch wore his hurley off Browne's back would be an understatement.
    Browne was man of the match in the drawn game and by all accounts Loughnane taunted Lynch asking whether Tony would be getting another watch. Lynch duly saw to it that it wasn't gonna happen.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    buck65 wrote: »
    The process for banning Lynch was a kangaroo court but what he did merited the ban, I'm not talking about the swinging at the throw in but when it kicked off at the goals with Lohan and White wrestling and the ensuing melee, Lynch opened up on Brown with the hurl in the middle of the park. Most people were watching the fight but for some reason Browne and Lynch caught my eye. To say Lynch wore his hurley off Browne's back would be an understatement.
    Browne was man of the match in the drawn game and by all accounts Loughnane taunted Lynch asking whether Tony would be getting another watch. Lynch duly saw to it that it wasn't gonna happen.

    I know exactly what he did and I don't say that a ban wasn't warranted, BUT he was banned with no evidence or no official witness, bans could have been handed out on both sides but only 1 was (outside of sending offs).

    If Lynch's actions warranted a ban then there was at least 6 Waterford players that deserved just as much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Agreed , the process was wrong. 6 suspensions from Waterford? Not sure about that though. Clare were made an example of that year, we were to uppity for some of the traditional counties and by god were they going to put us in our place, actually Kilkenny and Kerry can win how they like and no one is too bothered. God forbid Tyrone Clare or Donegal get too fond of winning.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    J@ysus thinking of 98 has be annoyed. We went into a Munster final like it was a challenge match and got completely bossed by a team who were up for it, we went completely over the top for the replay and went into an All Ireland semi final against a team in disarray (sheep in a heap) missing 3 central figures, we should have won all 3 matches, the match in Thurles we missed about 10 easy goal chances and tricky Dickie did a great job of keeping us out of it.

    We had 3 players banned (Fingers, Lohan and Lynch) and only had 1 against us (White) even though it was clear that others deserved to be sent off, ffs Duignan nearly cut David Forde in half off the ball but nothing was done about it. In regards to the second replay, it was clear that there was something wrong when there was a match up to be played after ours, I never remember a game going on after the main event, ffs the Clare juniors in 93 were on before the replayed Leinster Final if anyone wants to look for precedent. The fact that the game went to a second replay when all the rules were clear that the result should stand was a disgrace, the GAA going out and saying that they were going to donate the profits from the game to the Omagh tradegy and if Clare continued to object they would be impacting the donation was clear that they were all out to get us.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again, if the drawn Munster final was any other result than a draw both teams would have a number of All Ireland's to their name.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    buck65 wrote: »
    Agreed , the process was wrong. 6 suspensions from Waterford? Not sure about that though. Clare were made an example of that year, we were to uppity for some of the traditional counties and by god were they going to put us in our place, actually Kilkenny and Kerry can win how they like and no one is too bothered. God forbid Tyrone Clare or Donegal get too fond of winning.

    Paul Flynn threw Frank Lohan's boot into the crowd, that's a sending off. Jamesey and Gilly were struck off the ball, that's 2 more, Seanie was split open when struck in the head going out with the ball, Conor Clancy had 2 fingers broken when struck off the ball and I'm sure there's another somewhere that I just can't think of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    whatever about breaking fingers throwing someones boot into the crowd is not on. Definite ban.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    buck65 wrote: »
    whatever about breaking fingers throwing someones boot into the crowd is not on. Definite ban.

    Frank sent him the bill for the replacement boots as well, it was never paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    buck65 wrote: »
    Flanagan was concussed last week from the previous game and not risked.

    yes , thats why i think he should get his place back , he had nothing done wrong in terms of loosing his place , he was very disappointed to be dropped the last day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Clareman wrote: »
    Paul Flynn threw Frank Lohan's boot into the crowd, that's a sending off. Jamesey and Gilly were struck off the ball, that's 2 more, Seanie was split open when struck in the head going out with the ball, Conor Clancy had 2 fingers broken when struck off the ball and I'm sure there's another somewhere that I just can't think of.

    Hahaha jaysus christ you're saying a man shouldn't have been banned for using the hurley as a hatchet through out the game and yet someone throws a boot away and that's a red card?

    Seriously man, leave it go.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Hahaha jaysus christ you're saying a man shouldn't have been banned for using the hurley as a hatchet through out the game and yet someone throws a boot away and that's a red card?

    Seriously man, leave it go.

    I'm saying both are red cards once there's evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    Has a time machine landed in 1998 - 18 years ago!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    cnoc wrote: »
    Has a time machine landed in 1998 - 18 years ago!

    I remember my father is 95 talking of the league winning teams of the 70s like it was just yesterday ,I'm now my father


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    Clareman wrote: »
    I remember my father is 95 talking of the league winning teams of the 70s like it was just yesterday ,I'm now my father

    I was at both League Finals in 1977 and '78. Saw the '78 team and Fr. Harry in the 2 Mile Inn afterwards. I am not a Clare man.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Right, back to tomorrows games and the degenerate gambler that I am, considering I can't back against my own teams EVER I have to go with Clare.

    Clare to win - €20 at 11/10
    Clare over 20.5 points - €20 at 5/6
    First score Clare point from free - 9/2

    I've no idea of a goal scorer, I can't see Clare scoring a goal to be honest but if I had to pick I think a wing forward coming through is the option so I think Cunningham is the pick, any suggestions? No Clare goal scorer is 5/2

    I'm thinking of taking a punt at Man of the Match as well, Conor Cleary is 40/1 and I thought he played ok last week and if Clare are going to win we're either going to need an exhibition of half back or full forward play.

    Red card is 11/8, it threatened to spill over a few times last week and a new ref will try to stamp his power so I think 11/8 is a good bet on that.

    I haven't put anything on yet, any thoughts greatly appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Who won man of the match last week?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Who won man of the match last week?

    Conor McGrath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭letowski


    Clareman, maybe a few beans on Shane O'Donnell for first goalscorer, I hear he is in line to start. He is not doing much goal scoring recently but he should be available at long odds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Clareman wrote: »
    Right, back to tomorrows games and the degenerate gambler that I am, considering I can't back against my own teams EVER I have to go with Clare.

    Clare to win - €20 at 11/10
    Clare over 20.5 points - €20 at 5/6
    First score Clare point from free - 9/2

    I've no idea of a goal scorer, I can't see Clare scoring a goal to be honest but if I had to pick I think a wing forward coming through is the option so I think Cunningham is the pick, any suggestions? No Clare goal scorer is 5/2

    I'm thinking of taking a punt at Man of the Match as well, Conor Cleary is 40/1 and I thought he played ok last week and if Clare are going to win we're either going to need an exhibition of half back or full forward play.

    Red card is 11/8, it threatened to spill over a few times last week and a new ref will try to stamp his power so I think 11/8 is a good bet on that.

    I haven't put anything on yet, any thoughts greatly appreciated.

    david reidy was'nt that far away from man of the match the last day , so he would'nt be far away again the cluster midfield suites him , with no conlon and Cunningham being quiet as he was the last day mcgrath wouldnt be a bad bet for a clare goal he caused the waterford full back line plenty of trouble the last day

    that was as bad a performance i have seen in a while from this clare side , if the likes of podge and tony hit form i would expect us to win , but there is alot more then them that need to click , our game management was terrible we were ahead and on top at two or three times in the game and never kicked on , i feel an improvement on the last day will see us over the line , we are still unbeaten all year in all competitions , so it would be hard to back against us given the fact that a number of key players are returning from injury

    any time i back the hurlers in big games they lose , the last day the draw let me down , this week i wont back them in the hope that i dont jinx things again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    cnoc wrote: »
    Has a time machine landed in 1998 - 18 years ago!

    Remember Limerick (Sarsfield)....Remember '98.....never forget the Whingers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭melonstar


    Just saw on the Clare hurlers Facebook page that Shane O'Donnell is starting instead of Duggan.
    Not sure of their accuracy in posts but it would be great to see him starting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 goldfinger4296


    melonstar wrote: »
    Just saw on the Clare hurlers Facebook page that Shane O'Donnell is starting instead of Duggan.
    Not sure of their accuracy in posts but it would be great to see him starting.

    We are very accurate ha ha, Shane is starting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭melonstar


    Unofficial but accurate page with insight knowledge :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Gael85




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Chrissybhoy


    120 mins plus Clare insist playing the same hurling when it's not working long ball into ff line and getting no joy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    120 mins plus Clare insist playing the same hurling when it's not working long ball into ff line and getting no joy

    Pretty pointless alright. Playing ball into a one man ff line against 3 defenders and o donnell is getting fouled as well. Must be very frustrating for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Fair play to Clare..... Ye're hurling team is a joy to watch.... Long may it last from a kerryman.....

    Tony Kelly upped his game something serious after that incident between Noel connors and cunningham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    Smash and grab right at the finish. Fair play to the lads but I have to admit my heart goes out to Waterford.
    Such a terrible way to lose a game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Ref gifted ye the match, joke of a free near the end, was looking to give ye a shot to level it, We were the better team ref cost us the game hopefully we have someone who can actually ref the next day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    Watching from Napoli, delighted! Commiserations to Waterford their a fine team.
    Cmon the banner!


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