Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

WhiteWalls · 26-04-2016 03:18PM

humberklog wrote:

That attack last night was interesting. It shows a good level of intelligence gathering and audaciousness. To get assassins into that area, get a kill and get out at such a time of heightened alertness was really quite something.

I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that the lads that actually pulled the trigger are even more lowlife than the gang members themselves? I would have thought that they get idiots to do the dirty work for a few bob.

BattleCorp · 26-04-2016 03:19PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Not much tit for tat about it..... I make it 5-1 to the Kinahans to date.

That's not an impressive score by Mexican cartel standards.

humberklog · 26-04-2016 03:21PM

WhiteWalls wrote: »

I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that the lads that actually pulled the trigger are even more lowlife than the gang members themselves? I would have thought that they get idiots to do the dirty work for a few bob.

Maybe. But it's still getting armed people into a very risky area and out again.

Capone79 · 26-04-2016 03:22PM

WhiteWalls wrote: »

I could be totally wrong but I'd imagine that the lads that actually pulled the trigger are even more lowlife than the gang members themselves? I would have thought that they get idiots to do the dirty work for a few bob.

I doubt they will receive actual money.. More than likely wipe the slate on an ounce or two!

Sofa King Great · 26-04-2016 03:23PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

3 simple ones to start with...
Freeing up Gardaí from doing mundane desk work that could have all been done with either computers in the patrol car or tablet computers out in the field.

Tracking of all mobile phone activity of known criminals and their associates to see what area they are in and police that area accordingly.

ANPR throughout the motorways and Dublin city would track curently stolen and cars currently being chased.

Only a few months back everyone was up in arms with the fact that the Gardai were accessing phone records

DrumSteve · 26-04-2016 03:25PM

Sofa King Great wrote: »

Only a few months back everyone was up in arms with the fact that the Gardai were accessing phone records

Plus any criminal worth his salt will use a burner.

humberklog · 26-04-2016 03:26PM

Capone79 wrote: »

I doubt they will receive actual money.. More than likely wipe the slate on an ounce or two!

The problem there though is the risk of errors occurring and having someone vulnerable getting caught and giving information to the police.

dd972 · 26-04-2016 03:26PM

Don't expect much to be done about this unless there's another Shane Geoghegan scenario, working class people are hated and derised in this country.

HeidiHeidi · 26-04-2016 03:27PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

That's not an impressive score by Mexican cartel standards.

Maybe not, but this isn't Mexico.

And it's still a lot more tit than tat.

HensVassal · 26-04-2016 03:30PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Dissidents don't exist in Dublin?
Your gas!

They most certainly do, in fact this particular dead dissident was supposed to be in the special criminal court this Thursday, for a sentencing hearing.
Trials in the special criminal court are being listed for 18 months later, that's how busy it is, there is in fact a 2nd special criminal court opening soon to relieve the pressure on the one.

So, maybe you know a few lads who like to pretend to be in the Ra, but there are many members of dissident organisations in Dublin, and throughout the country.

Ever heard of Ronan McLoughlan? aka Riddler

NoCrackHaving · 26-04-2016 03:34PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

That's not an impressive score by Mexican cartel standards.

It's not a competition.

Allyall · 26-04-2016 03:47PM

Has anyone a rough idea how much the Kinahans are worth?
Odd question I suppose, but I was told a figure today, and it seem not credible. Massive amount.
I didn't ask for a "link" :P and it wasn't the type of person I wanted to question. I asked where did they hear it but a few others were talking at the same time and it went unheard.
No doubt it would all be guessed, but I mean to the closest €1, €5 or €10 million.

xabi · 26-04-2016 03:50PM

Allyall wrote: »

Has anyone a rough idea how much the Kinahans are worth?
Odd question I suppose, but I was told a figure today, and it seem not credible. Massive amount.
I didn't ask for a "link" :P and it wasn't the type of person I wanted to question. I asked where did they hear it but a few others were talking at the same time and it went unheard.
No doubt it would all be guessed, but I mean to the closest €1, €5 or €10 million.

About three fiddy

Allyall · 26-04-2016 03:52PM

xabi wrote: »

About three fiddy

That even seems like a crazy amount to me, but at least a bit more normal.

I was told close to €900 million. Heading for the Billion this summer :eek:.

xabi · 26-04-2016 03:55PM

Allyall wrote: »

That even seems like a crazy amount to me, but at least a bit more normal.

I was told close to €900 million. Heading for the Billion this summer :eek:.

Three Fiddy was a guess

I have no idea.

WhiteWalls · 26-04-2016 04:01PM

Allyall wrote:

Has anyone a rough idea how much the Kinahans are worth? Odd question I suppose, but I was told a figure today, and it seem not credible. Massive amount. I didn't ask for a "link" and it wasn't the type of person I wanted to question. I asked where did they hear it but a few others were talking at the same time and it went unheard. No doubt it would all be guessed, but I mean to the closest â‚¬1, â‚¬5 or â‚¬10 million.

When Paul Williams was on the late late show after the regency incident he did mention a figure but it escapes me. It was a very interesting piece he did in fairness. He claimed that they are one of the major drug cartels in Europe

26-04-2016 04:05PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Ever heard of Ronan McLoughlan? aka Riddler

Ronan mcloughlin? Shot dead in a foiled armed robbery in Wicklow? 18 years ago?
Yep I know him.
I must be missing some point here?

Spanish Eyes · 26-04-2016 04:12PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Silly question I know but why are the Gardai not watching the pubs these people frequent the area these people are operating in is very small

I heard a report on some radio station today, sorry cannot remember which one that said an armed Garda patrol was parked around the corner from the Sunset.

Now that made me think....did they know something might happen, were they trained up enough to deal with it, or did they just say feck it, let them at it.

Noirin, over to you.

Dyr · 26-04-2016 04:13PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Ever heard of Ronan McLoughlan? aka Riddler

aka Riddler? Are you making this guff yourself or is that a Paul McWilliams/Jim Cusack special?

ohnonotgmail · 26-04-2016 04:14PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I heard a report on some radio station today, sorry cannot remember which one that said an armed Garda patrol was parked around the corner from the Sunset.

Now that made me think....did they know something might happen, were they trained up enough to deal with it, or did they just say feck it, let them at it.

Noirin, over to you.

or perhaps they just happened to be in the area.

poa · 26-04-2016 04:17PM

# Name: Net Worth:
4. John Cunningham – Net Worth €50 Million
3. Christy Kinahan – Net Worth €50 Million
2. Thomas Murphy – Net Worth €60 Million
1. George Mitchell – Net Worth €70 Million

Kinahan is behind Slab Murphy in terms of net worth, but that may change while Murphy is in jail. Fuel laundering and cigarette smuggling are as lucrative as drug smuggling.
Figures quoted of Kinahan heading for 1 billion net worth are just Sunday World salacious speculation. The Mexican cartels are operating at that Pablo Escobar level, but Kinahan is no where near it.

Spanish Eyes · 26-04-2016 04:20PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

or perhaps they just happened to be in the area.

Of course. It is routine to have an armed patrol around there, I forgot that, sorry.

ohnonotgmail · 26-04-2016 04:21PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Of course. It is routine to have an armed patrol around there, I forgot that, sorry.

ah sorry, i didnt realise you had intimate knowledge of the movements of armed gardai.

Spanish Eyes · 26-04-2016 04:25PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ah sorry, i didnt realise you had intimate knowledge of the movements of armed gardai.

Which is exactly my point.

If armed patrols are NOT routine, why were they just around the corner when the assassination took place?

No connection with crime/security/gardai etc. Just an observer of things that happen, as you do!

eisenberg1 · 26-04-2016 04:31PM

^^
I would have thought it would be the norm (for now) for armed patrols to be in the general area of Ballybough, summer hill and Sheriff st. No?

Spanish Eyes · 26-04-2016 04:36PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

^^
I would have thought it would be the norm (for now) for armed patrols to be in the general area of Ballybough, summer hill and Sheriff st. No?

Yes, I would have thought so too.

Seems, like the Regency killing that the Gardai are around alright, but not much intervention to be seen. So what is the actual point of it all? Optics maybe?

I am not criticising the Gardai, but the management really. They call it surely.

So as I said, has Madam Commissioner made a statement on the matter yet?

PEACEBROTHER · 26-04-2016 04:43PM

1 thing I've wondered since reading about this is it said in Sunday World
Gerry paid 250k to spare Gary's life but then Kinahans reneged on this and wanted another 250k ??
Why start all this over 250k if there worth 900million ?????

Capone79 · 26-04-2016 04:49PM

Allyall wrote: »

Has anyone a rough idea how much the Kinahans are worth?
Odd question I suppose, but I was told a figure today, and it seem not credible. Massive amount.
I didn't ask for a "link" :P and it wasn't the type of person I wanted to question. I asked where did they hear it but a few others were talking at the same time and it went unheard.
No doubt it would all be guessed, but I mean to the closest €1, €5 or €10 million.

Compared to the Mexican Sinaloa Cartel, El Chapo could buy and sell the Kinahans or use them as errand boys! The Mexican cartels cut people's heads off,chainsaws,Swiss army, butter, any knife really, day in, day out!

sonofenoch · 26-04-2016 04:51PM

Amazing how all these 'hitmen for hire' can swan around freely, their known by the media and gardai....you see the reports linking them to the death of A, B and C

if I was known to be driving with no tax and insurance I'd be up in court in the morning.....if I was known to have shot dead multiple people? ...bit trickier that one

Peter Anthony · 26-04-2016 04:54PM

Capone79 wrote: »

Compared to the Mexican Sinaloa Cartel, El Chapo could buy and sell the Kinahans or use them as errand boys! The Mexican cartels cut people's heads off,chainsaws,Swiss army, butter, any knife really, day in, day out!

They work in tandem. They are one of the biggest drug cartels in the world. They have connections in every corner of the earth.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-kinahan-gangs-links-to-cocaine-empire-of-feared-el-chapo-syndicate-34610034.html

Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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