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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #3272
    darced
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  • #3273
    jcsoulinger
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    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Question wasn't directed at you. I think me and you are done debating :)

    Awh that's disappointing :)


  • #3274
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    jcsoulinger wrote: »
    Awh that's disappointing :)

    Haha. I'm sure it is...


  • #3275
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,470 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    darced wrote: »
    With Conor on it was by miles, whatever we end up with will still break the records on name alone.

    I dunno, Aldo v Edgar isn't that exciting IMO to be second on a marquee card. I'm interested in the fight but I would not pay for a PPV to watch it by any means. Velasquez v Browne? There are exciting heavyweight matches to be made but unfortunately injury has stopped any of them being a thing for 200, if it was Werdum or Miocic I would be all over it. Tate against someone that isn't Holm or Rousey?

    I just don't think there's one match there where you could say 'yeah this is the dream match for this division, this is the one everyone wanted to see and now it's happening'. They'll add something good but the card in general is not marquee at all IMO.


  • #3276
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    CSF wrote: »
    What's nonsensical? Weird to dismiss something flippantly without even a supporting argument. UFC 200 makes significantly more money with Conor than without him right?

    Saying that the UFC need Conor more than he needs them. Absolutely nonsensical.


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  • #3277
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    CSF wrote: »
    I dunno, Aldo v Edgar isn't that exciting IMO to be second on a marquee card. I'm interested in the fight but I would not pay for a PPV to watch it by any means. Velasquez v Browne? There are exciting heavyweight matches to be made but unfortunately injury has stopped any of them being a thing for 200, if it was Werdum or Miocic I would be all over it. Tate against someone that isn't Holm or Rousey?

    I just don't think there's one match there where you could say 'yeah this is the dream match for this division, this is the one everyone wanted to see and now it's happening'. They'll add something good but the card in general is not marquee at all IMO.

    Its definitely not what was expected for 200 but it is absolutely a card I will pay and stay up for.


  • #3278
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,470 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Its definitely not what was expected for 200 but it is absolutely a card I will pay and stay up for.

    It's just your ordinary card really. Not much different to ones that came before or after it.


  • #3279
    darced
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  • #3280
    Cathy.C
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    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Ah, see now ye can all dismissively exaggerate till the cows come home, and never see nothing wrong with it, with stuff like 'Conor finally woke up and realized he hasn't a hope against Nate' and how he's 'running scared, afraid to get choked out again' or 'stockton slapped' etc etc but when it's returned and even one slight thing is said about anyone Conor has fought, such as playing down one of his planned opponent's foot injury for example... then it's 'How dare you, you fanbois, you nut huggers, get Conor's dick out of your' etc etc. Good for the goose but not the gander it would seem.


  • #3281
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,470 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Saying that the UFC need Conor more than he needs them. Absolutely nonsensical.

    Go on...


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  • #3282
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,470 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    darced wrote: »
    It seems a senseless game to play, he could have backed down well before the public got wind of it.

    My impression is that Conor doesn't see not being allowed fight at UFC 200 as such a big deal. I would be stunned if UFC aren't out to butter him up in the near future. He is the cash cow. UFC like money, Conor is their biggest money maker by a distance.


  • #3283
    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
    Site Banned Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    CSF wrote: »
    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Wheres the North ffs.
    Global warming.
    the whole North-east of the island broke off in a storm...


  • #3284
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Doesn't matter what it is. Even if he only wanted to attend one press conference, the weigh-in and then the fight, it should be granted to him. He has generated close to half a billion for the company, saved their ass twice, did all the TV shows, interviews etc. Sold out the O2 here for the Aldo press conference for the previous fight. Missing some early press calls now after all that? So be it ffs. These things are only done to make money after all, to sell seats, PPVs, garner interest, but McGregor has done all that for them already. And that's worse case scenario. I highly doubt come mid June he wouldn't be up to a trip to Stockton or wherever the hell they wanted him for one day. He's just doesn't want it non-stop like the last fight is all.

    UFC should just have fined him for missing Vegas. Not as if he went AWOL like Nick Diaz. He just didn't want to do that leg of things, and that's according to Dana.

    Sorry, but this is another nonsense post. McGregor did all of the above for himself. To promote himself so that he would get a title shot without having to put in the hard graft in the ring. How many top ten 145 fighters (who got a full camp) did he beat before his title shot?? He got his shot and beat Aldo, then went on another vanity run to fight RDA. We know the outcome there. Then after the loss to Diaz, instead of deciding to actually face a top 5 or even 10 145lb fighter he demanded a rematch at UFC 200. The UFC gave him this and he throws it in their face by refusing to turn up to the launch of it.

    Everything he's done so far has been to promote Conor McGregor, now that he's lost and been asked to promote the company he's thrown the toys out of the pram.


  • #3285
    darced
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  • #3286
    weldoninhio
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    CSF wrote: »
    Go on...

    Well I'd imagine Dana and the Fertittas weren't living hand to mouth before McGregor. I'd imagine if his career ended tomorrow, they wouldn't go back to the poor house.

    If this dispute keeps going and McGregor doesn't wind his neck in he'll be making €0 per UFC event while Dana and the boys keep the money rolling in, maybe not as much but when your a multimillionaire who cares. McGregor seems to be having a Henry Sellars moment "Pull me, Pull me, the b@$tards, I made the UFC".


  • #3287
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Sorry, but this is another nonsense post. McGregor did all of the above for himself. To promote himself so that he would get a title shot without having to put in the hard graft in the ring. How many top ten 145 fighters (who got a full camp) did he beat before his title shot?? He got his shot and beat Aldo, then went on another vanity run to fight RDA. We know the outcome there. Then after the loss to Diaz, instead of deciding to actually face a top 5 or even 10 145lb fighter he demanded a rematch at UFC 200.

    You're contradicting yourself. We know the fights he took. Just because you call them vanity fights doesn't make them so. Fighting Nate Diaz, a taller fighter at 170 was a risk, and quite an obvious one and so how can you say the above nonsense.
    The UFC gave him this and he throws it in their face by refusing to turn up to the launch of it.

    Shit happens. Things change. He's had the media all over him the past two weeks wanting him to explain himself over comments he made after a fight which resulted in a fighter's death. He cheered on Charlie in that fight and seen Joao walk to his dressing room, then to an ambulance and we all know what happened afterwards. He hasn't given an interview since. That is highly unusual for Conor and speaks volumes for why he went to Portugal and is now in Iceland.

    Don't you think that he knows full well that as soon as he enters a press conference, that without a shadow of a doubt, an Irish reporter will stand up and the first question he will be asked is does he still stand over his comments he made that the referee in the Joao fight should have stopped it fearlier, and also no doubt pry further and ask him how he felt after seeing that happen and how he thinks it will all effect Charlie and does he think this will effect the hopes of a future UFC fight in Dublin and... etc etc etc. IMO, he and his camp and just trying to chill for a while, focus on the training and avoid the media for another month or so until his head is sorted and he can deal with those sort of questions.
    Everything he's done so far has been to promote Conor McGregor, now that he's lost and been asked to promote the company he's thrown the toys out of the pram.

    That is just nonsense. He's doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, but he is not throwing toys anywhere. It's just a fight at the end of the day. It happens or it doesn't. There's always MSG.

    Oh and he also offered Aldo a rematch before giving the fight to Diaz. You forgot that in your little bio above.


  • #3288
    CSF
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Well I'd imagine Dana and the Fertittas weren't living hand to mouth before McGregor. I'd imagine if his career ended tomorrow, they wouldn't go back to the poor house.

    If this dispute keeps going and McGregor doesn't wind his neck in he'll be making €0 per UFC event while Dana and the boys keep the money rolling in, maybe not as much but when your a multimillionaire who cares. McGregor seems to be having a Henry Sellars moment "Pull me, Pull me, the b@$tards, I made the UFC".
    The implication was never that this is going to bankrupt Dana White though was it? Instead that their popularity in the mainstream goes down significantly with no Conor. Look at the rest of that 200 card, household names? Nope. Aldo maybe but how did he become a household name? Not by being a multi-year champion and general monster. Nope, he became that by losing to Conor. This isn't even about who is the best fighter. That is Jon Jones. Conor isn't even 2nd. But he is the guy who propelled the sport from being a sport supported by the fans to a sport that most people now take at least a passing interest in. Even Sky have adopted to obsessing over Conor and they never cover things they're not showing.

    This may well be one of those cases where a person is bigger than the organisation.


  • #3289
    Muahahaha
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    Well this whole debacle has turned into an absolute clusterfcuk. Nobody wins here, not Conor, not Dana, not the fans.


  • #3290
    callaway92
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    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Well this whole debacle has turned into an absolute clusterfcuk. Nobody wins here, not Conor, not Dana, not the fans.

    News & Media win here 10 times out of 10.


  • #3291
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,324 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Press conference in 20 minutes (probably be a bit delayed as usual). Watch 200k viewers waiting for it on YouTube, dana to say straight away Conor isn't on it and 100k people to drop straight off the stream

    Edit: looks like it was changed to 10pm gmt

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3gTwkCutlQ


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  • #3292
    hatrickpatrick
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Edit: looks like it was changed to 10pm gmt

    9PM GMT, people are forgetting that we're now an hour ahead for the summer. So no delay, which could've meant new developments - I'd expect they'll just mention that he's off and say no more about it as if he doesn't matter, since that's presumably going to be their entire angle on this, trying to pretend they couldn't give a bollocks about losing their hyped match-up.


  • #3293
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    Think Aldo may still have concussion.


    https://twitter.com/josealdojunior/status/723595403648720896


  • #3294
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I have to say the more I'm reading about this entire situation and the backdrop behind it, the more I'm starting to support McGregor's side to it. I did think it seemed he was being a bit of a bollocks at first, but starting the full on press tours etc a whopping four months before the event is ludicrous, and I'm still willing to put serious money on McGregor not having been given the dates until the last minute. There are a lot of leaks in this sport, we would have heard rumblings that there was a problem weeks ago if there had actually been a problem weeks ago, and yet McGregor's announcement came totally out of the blue.

    If they basically said to him "Here mate we need you in the US next week, pack your bags" after he'd gone to the trouble and expense of organising all of those travel itineraries not just for himself but his entire crew and ensemble, four months before the feckin' fight, then that's absolute pants. The fact that McGregor is putting so much effort into training so early before the match is a testament to what a dedicated sportsman he really is, and that's something they should be encouraging rather than throwing spanners at. Remember this isn't about a press conference, this is about weeks of promotional touring and events. If they indeed sprung this on him, it's incredibly poor form - and I'm sure if this is the case, it'll come out publicly sooner or later.


  • #3295
    lougal88
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    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Think Aldo may still have concussion.


    https://twitter.com/josealdojunior/status/723595403648720896

    Some of his tweets since the title defeat have been beyond ****e. But in all fairness that is a good one! :)


  • #3296
    Zero-Cool
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    9PM GMT, people are forgetting that we're now an hour ahead for the summer. So no delay, which could've meant new developments - I'd expect they'll just mention that he's off and say no more about it as if he doesn't matter, since that's presumably going to be their entire angle on this, trying to pretend they couldn't give a bollocks about losing their hyped match-up.

    Fairly sure we are caught up on both sides and back to 8 hours apart. It's currently 1.22 over there and conference starts in 38 minutes so 10pm start for us.


  • #3297
    Axwell
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    The conference was always set for 10pm Irish Time...

    Edit: As ASOT pointed out GMT is an hour different etc.


  • #3298
    Spudman_20000
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    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Think Aldo may still have concussion.


    https://twitter.com/josealdojunior/status/723595403648720896

    Do ye reckon he's still bitter about being beaten in 13 seconds?


  • #3299
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,324 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Axwell wrote: »
    The conference was always set for 10pm GMT.

    Ya my bad, i saw 5pm ET a while ago and automatically thought 9pm gmt for some reason.


  • #3300
    lougal88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭lougal88


    Axwell wrote: »
    The conference was always set for 10pm GMT.

    Was just about to post this.
    2pm in Vegas.
    5pm Eastern time.
    10pm here.


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  • #3301
    Axwell
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Ya my bad, i saw 5pm ET a while ago and automatically thought 9pm gmt for some reason.

    Different timezone in Limerick


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