Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

Swashbuckler · 22-04-2016 02:26PM

Mellor wrote: »

It's 11 weeks away now. A full camp is 6-12 weeks.
If he is taking Nate seriously, as he obviously should, he's need a look towards the longer side of camp. Putting on mass, focusing on cardio, these considerations add time to his camp. Maybe he'll change gears in a few weeks. But he absolute needs to training towards the fight now.

It could easily be argued that even as it is, 12 weeks is probably not even enough time to get to where he needs to be.

paulieeye · 22-04-2016 02:31PM

Mellor wrote: »

It's 11 weeks away now. A full camp is 6-12 weeks.
If he is taking Nate seriously, as he obviously should, he's need a look towards the longer side of camp. Putting on mass, focusing on cardio, these considerations add time to his camp. Maybe he'll change gears in a few weeks. But he absolute needs to training towards the fight now.

no bro..he's scared of the trash talk!!! he lost so he can never trash talk again, he can only sit there and take it /s

zpehtsfd · 22-04-2016 02:43PM

McGregor willingly promoted himself into being the UFCs #1 draw and now he wants to scale back on promoting and concentrate on fighting. Someone needs to tell him it doesn't work like that. No one is bigger then the sport. Period.

Swashbuckler · 22-04-2016 02:47PM

zpehtsfd wrote: »

McGregor willingly promoted himself into being the UFCs #1 draw and now he wants to scale back on promoting and concentrate on fighting. Someone needs to tell him it doesn't work like that. No one is bigger then the sport. Period.

He has done more for the sport than anyone in the last few years. At what point does he get a break from all the promotion? (Remembering he didn't say he would do no promotion). He's doing the right thing and has the right attitude. Only a stupid man would come off a loss as bad as the one to Diaz and go straight ahead and make the same mistakes again.

Lucas Hood · 22-04-2016 02:54PM

Swashbuckler wrote: »

It could easily be argued that even as it is, 12 weeks is probably not even enough time to get to where he needs to be.

Even for someone who stays ready so he doesn't have to get ready?

zpehtsfd · 22-04-2016 02:56PM

This whole "retiring" stunt achieved 3 positive things for McGregor:

1. Inferred he wasn't ready when defeated by Diaz
2. Alleviates him from doing numerous uncomfortable/negative promotions where he will be constantly reminded of the defeat
3. Enables him to better prepare for the re-match

Whether UFC 200 happens with or without him #1 will still hold true, in his eyes, so the slate is wiped clean. This is where he needs to be mentally. imo.

Ush1 · 22-04-2016 02:56PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Even for someone who stays ready so he doesn't have to get ready?

You cold as ice.

MarkY91 · 22-04-2016 02:57PM

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

Oh yeah I remember this now haha

Spudman_20000 · 22-04-2016 02:58PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Even for someone who stays ready so he doesn't have to get ready?

My goodness, does he bury bodies in the Nevada desert too?

Swashbuckler · 22-04-2016 02:58PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Even for someone who stays ready so he doesn't have to get ready?

If you put all the marketing and posturing stuff aside from McGregor the reality is he knows he was beaten badly by a bigger, tougher guy. The whole "Stay Ready" is a soundbite or a gimmick. Something marketable to print on a t-shirt. He knows he needs serious camp and focus.

xtal191 · 22-04-2016 03:02PM

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EoineyM · 22-04-2016 03:09PM

A lot of anti-UFC, anti-Dana nonsense being spouted now by people to support Conor. Seen fools on twitter talking about Conor being bigger than the UFC etc. Absolutely nothing wrong with new fans to the sport since Conor came along. But there was a BC era "Before Conor" in the UFC and it was pretty damn good. It is why so many people, including Conor I'm sure, got into MMA as spectators and participants. No doubt, the UFC have sought to monopolise MMA and have screwed fighters over re pay. But on the other side, their strategy has seen huge growth and just as importantly, has prevented MMA from degenerating into the farce that is boxing with multiple people claiming to be world champions. And all this "OOH Dana tells lies" crap. Dana puts himself out there in front of the cameras more than anyone else in similar positions in other sports and fields a lot more questions. Does he give every detail? No, but I'm sure there is always ongoing , very complex negotiations going on behind the scenes. People slating fighters in the past coz they jumped at the opportunity to fight when Dana called? That was pretty admirable and if everything turns into a protracted negotiation now it aint gonna help the sport. JK looking for people to take sides against the UFC aint a great precedent in my view. Fighters interests need to be looked after, but do does the future of the sport. Ahhhhh, glad that's off my mind.

price690 · 22-04-2016 03:21PM

I have to hand it to McGregor, he really has caught the attention of bandwagon jumping Irish sports fans in fairness.

The lad is clearly good at what he does, both in and out of the octagon. What I find amusing is that there is very little middle ground between his "haters" and his "fans".

The Haters have him up against the shooting gallery the minute he loses and get overtly offended by anything he said prior to his defeat.

His fans will hear no criticism of him whatsoever, i've never seen anyone build such a loyal fanbase of soldiers who will go out to bat for him 24/7. I'm not sure if most of these are actually MMA fans or people who like his style/wealth/man bun/status or all of the above. McGregor could roll up and take a massive sh*te on their doorstep and they would take something from it along the lines of:

"I like what he is doing here, I hate my neighbours and this will keep them from ringing my doorbell, the guy is a pioneer, a bloody genius"

Equally its hilarious to read the over the top criticism aswell. The guy deserves credit for creating such a divisive persona for him. I honestly don't think its any part of a grand plan, his quick wit and ability to sh*te talk has got him to where he is today, both in a sense its given him great wealth and exposure, but also to a place where its now expected of him and to simply fail to show is bad form, given he'd signed a contract to do just that. You reap what you sow and all that, he seems to be moving the goalposts.

He'd have gained a hell of alot of respect if he had rolled into stockton cocky as ever talking about how Nate got lucky "the sun always shines on a dogs arse every now and again" or something of that ilk during the press conferences.

He'll be back though no doubt, but this no show has shown a chink in the armour no matter how people want to spin it. For what its worth i'd be one of those people in the middle who just enjoy watching his fights and can be objective.

Hs coach comes across as a little embarrassing sometimes though. He seems to be following the Freddie Roach/Roger Mayweather school of hype. You really get the impression he is enjoying his 20 minutes of fame. For a bloke who is extremely awkward and defensive in his dealings with the media he seems to talk an awful lot.

honreal · 22-04-2016 03:22PM

Conor doing a press conference in Stockton would be crazy. It would certainly be interesting to see it go down and how he handles it.

zpehtsfd · 22-04-2016 03:24PM

Swashbuckler wrote: »

He has done more for the sport than anyone in the last few years. At what point does he get a break from all the promotion? (Remembering he didn't say he would do no promotion). He's doing the right thing and has the right attitude. Only a stupid man would come off a loss as bad as the one to Diaz and go straight ahead and make the same mistakes again.

I agree 100% that he needs to focus on a re-match but he went about it in the worst possible way. He ambushed the UFC and is now holding them to ransom and guess who the muscle are: THE FANS. Totally irresponsible and whomever advised him of this stunt should be hung up. UFC 200 is not the be all and end all and if he really felt that strongly about his preparation he should not have rushed into this re-match. It's not like he didn't know what a promotional roadshow was after the Aldo fight tour. GL.

Swashbuckler · 22-04-2016 03:25PM

price690 wrote: »

I have to hand it to McGregor, he really has caught the attention of bandwagon jumping Irish sports fans in fairness.

The lad is clearly good at what he does, both in and out of the octagon. What I find amusing is that there is very little middle ground between his "haters" and his "fans".

The Haters have him up against the shooting gallery the minute he loses and get overtly offended by anything he said prior to his defeat.

His fans will hear no criticism of him whatsoever, i've never seen anyone build such a loyal fanbase of soldiers who will go out to bat for him 24/7. I'm not sure if most of these are actually MMA fans or people who like his style/wealth/man bun/status or all of the above. McGregor could roll up and take a massive sh*te on their doorstep and they would take something from it along the lines of:

"I like what he is doing here, I hate my neighbours and this will keep them from ringing my doorbell, the guy is a pioneer, a bloody genius"

Equally its hilarious to read the over the top criticism aswell. The guy deserves credit for creating such a divisive persona for him. I honestly don't think its any part of a grand plan, his quick wit and ability to sh*te talk has got him to where he is today, both in a sense its given him great wealth and exposure, but also to a place where its now expected of him and to simply fail to show is bad form, given he'd signed a contract to do just that. You reap what you sow and all that, he seems to be moving the goalposts.

He'd have gained a hell of alot of respect if he had rolled into stockton cocky as ever talking about how Nate got lucky "the sun always shines on a dogs arse every now and again" or something of that ilk during the press conferences.

He'll be back though no doubt, but this no show has shown a chink in the armour no matter how people want to spin it. For what its worth i'd be one of those people in the middle who just enjoy watching his fights and can be objective.

Hs coach comes across as a little embarrassing sometimes though. He seems to be following the Freddie Roach/Roger Mayweather school of hype. You really get the impression he is enjoying his 20 minutes of fame. For a bloke who is extremely awkward and defensive in his dealings with the media he seems to talk an awful lot.

The "middle ground" people tend to be smart enough to stay away from this thread in particular once it all kicks off.

22-04-2016 03:27PM

price690 wrote: »

I have to hand it to McGregor, he really has caught the attention of bandwagon jumping Irish sports fans in fairness.

The lad is clearly good at what he does, both in and out of the octagon. What I find amusing is that there is very little middle ground between his "haters" and his "fans".

The Haters have him up against the shooting gallery the minute he loses and get overtly offended by anything he said prior to his defeat.

His fans will hear no criticism of him whatsoever, i've never seen anyone build such a loyal fanbase of soldiers who will go out to bat for him 24/7. I'm not sure if most of these are actually MMA fans or people who like his style/wealth/man bun/status or all of the above. McGregor could roll up and take a massive sh*te on their doorstep and they would take something from it along the lines of:

"I like what he is doing here, I hate my neighbours and this will keep them from ringing my doorbell, the guy is a pioneer, a bloody genius"

Equally its hilarious to read the over the top criticism aswell. The guy deserves credit for creating such a divisive persona for him. I honestly don't think its any part of a grand plan, his quick wit and ability to sh*te talk has got him to where he is today, both in a sense its given him great wealth and exposure, but also to a place where its now expected of him and to simply fail to show is bad form, given he'd signed a contract to do just that. You reap what you sow and all that, he seems to be moving the goalposts.

He'd have gained a hell of alot of respect if he had rolled into stockton cocky as ever talking about how Nate got lucky "the sun always shines on a dogs arse every now and again" or something of that ilk during the press conferences.

He'll be back though no doubt, but this no show has shown a chink in the armour no matter how people want to spin it. For what its worth i'd be one of those people in the middle who just enjoy watching his fights and can be objective.

Hs coach comes across as a little embarrassing sometimes though. He seems to be following the Freddie Roach/Roger Mayweather school of hype. You really get the impression he is enjoying his 20 minutes of fame. For a bloke who is extremely awkward and defensive in his dealings with the media he seems to talk an awful lot.

well expressed.

If McGregor flew to Turkey, crossed over the border to Syria and joined ISIS it would be rationalised as a publicity masterstroke... somehow.

jcsoulinger · 22-04-2016 03:41PM

paulieeye wrote: »

no bro..he's scared of the trash talk!!! he lost so he can never trash talk again, he can only sit there and take it /s

Good point, given the manner of Diaz victory he would give him some rippin in the press conference and Conor would just have to sit there and take it.

I reckon Conor realised he can't win and is trying to blame the UFC to save face, given all his trash talk about his opponents pulling out cause of injury, this is way worse reason not to fight.

Swashbuckler · 22-04-2016 03:47PM

glasso wrote: »

well expressed.

If McGregor flew to Turkey, crossed over the border to Syria and joined ISIS it would be rationalised as a publicity masterstroke... somehow.

And conversely if he cured Cancer, saved some drowning puppies and helped an old Granny cross the road he'd be the biggest tool on the planet. Works both ways.
I think what I'm starting to realise is that a lot of people are all on the same page - middle ground people who maybe disagree on some points, but everyone is so tainted by the haters and the nuthuggers we can't see the wood for the trees.

Tigger · 22-04-2016 03:48PM

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Good point, given the manner of Diaz victory he would give him some rippin in the press conference and Conor would just have to sit there and take it.

I reckon Conor realised he can't win and is trying to blame the UFC to save face, given all his trash talk about his opponents pulling out cause of injury, this is way worse reason not to fight.

He can win its called kicking

CSF · 22-04-2016 03:52PM

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Just NY. It was only 3 cities iirc.[Stockton, Vegas and NYC] Nothing like the one for the Aldo fight. He had no problem doing long media stretches when he was undefeated and in his "Mystic Mac" phase.

Conor is still embarrassed about the fight. I think anybody with a full camp goes out there and gets beat by a guy with literally no camp [Nate was on vacation when they called him for the fight] would be. Conor doesn't want to do it because he knows he can't do his usual shtick. He can't do his "I'll KO him in less than a minute" here because Nate took his best shots last time and didn't phase him.

Diaz is capable of telling McGregor in New York he tapped out too. He wouldn't try avoid it because he couldn't avoid it.

CSF · 22-04-2016 03:55PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Sorry but that second line is the most nonsensical in this entire thread.

UFC 200 will go ahead without McGregor, the company will make millions, maybe not as many as if McGregor had fought, but millions nonetheless. McGregor will make €0, £0, $0 from it. Same with the next event, McGregor does what he's told or at UFC 201/2/3/4/5 he makes squat. He's contracted to them so he can't fight elsewhere, if he doesn't play ball he'll lose millions.

What's nonsensical? Weird to dismiss something flippantly without even a supporting argument. UFC 200 makes significantly more money with Conor than without him right?

jcsoulinger · 22-04-2016 04:07PM

CSF wrote: »

What's nonsensical? Weird to dismiss something flippantly without even a supporting argument. UFC 200 makes significantly more money with Conor than without him right?

Maybe in the long term they think it makes more sense that McGregor sits this fight out, should he get humiliated again by Diaz which is very lightly imo, how would that effect his marketability going forward, You don't kill a cash cow ya milk it for as long as possible.

CSF · 22-04-2016 04:36PM

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Maybe in the long term they think it makes more sense that McGregor sits this fight out, should he get humiliated again by Diaz which is very lightly imo, how would that effect his marketability going forward, You don't kill a cash cow ya milk it for as long as possible.

They booked this fight in the first place. It would have been much easier for them to say 'no you have to defend your featherweight title, you haven't defended it once' if that was their standpoint.

People are rife with their conspiracy theories but chances are the issues are what both parties say they are.

Cathy.C · 22-04-2016 04:41PM

glasso wrote: »

If McGregor flew to Turkey, crossed over the border to Syria and joined ISIS it would be rationalised as a publicity masterstroke... somehow.

In fairness, it would do some PPVs.

J Mysterio · 22-04-2016 04:45PM

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

Wheres the North ffs.

CSF · 22-04-2016 04:46PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Wheres the North ffs.

Global warming.

jcsoulinger · 22-04-2016 05:03PM

CSF wrote: »

They booked this fight in the first place. It would have been much easier for them to say 'no you have to defend your featherweight title, you haven't defended it once' if that was their standpoint.

People are rife with their conspiracy theories but chances are the issues are what both parties say they are.

In hindsight they prob should have said that.... Given Dana was willing to fly him on a private jet to all the promo events and set up his gym equipment every where he had to be it seems he has done as much as he can to accommodate McGregor so your right I shouldn't question his motives.

Conor on the other hand seems unwilling to comprise he knows the promos are part and parcel of this game you can't avoid them no matter who you are. Leading up to the previous fight he was in halo night club in Galway less than 2 weeks before the fight now he's cribbin about a promo event 12 weeks out from the rematch, Diaz took the last fight with 10 days notice and destroyed him, McGregor is wimping out big time.

Cathy.C · 22-04-2016 05:03PM

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Zero-Cool · 22-04-2016 05:05PM

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