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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #3002
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    StringerBell wrote: »
    I fully expect him back for New York, and I fully expect everything to be smoothed over. Which is exactly why tweets like the one from Kavanagh earlier have got to be counter productive to this whole thing.

    They need to find a path to reconciliation now while both saving face. Neither will want to attack the other particularly, they are worth too much money to each other.

    Fully expect him to be on the New York card too and have said it from when this all kicked off but at this stage he is over training with Gunni who has a fight in May anyways so the training is as much for Gunni as it is for McGregor. They have nothing to lose really trying to get things their way with these tweets, it will do very little damage. Dana will either fold or stand his ground, most likely stand his ground and then UFC 200 will go ahead without McGregor. They will say no more about it and UFC New York will be announced with McGregor on the card and Dana and him will be buddies again.


  • #3003
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    .ak wrote: »
    The pic of him taking the phone off McGregor is brilliant I think. Lightens the mood,

    Didn't see it.

    Does it explain his tweet from earlier that I asked you about?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3004
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    .ak wrote: »
    The UFC changed the promo schedule.

    When?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3005
    SeanBlack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭SeanBlack


    Axwell wrote: »
    Nothing to do with being an internet tough guy...you use your real name and I can find you on google..and I am supposed to be impressed/care or :confused: im confused.

    Point is come on here posting nonsense like ""got that out of the way?" is going to lead to a ban. Your post count means you might not be familiar with the rules of boards of the forum, would suggest you go look at them.

    Thanks, anonymous internet guy. Familiar with the rules, but I genuinely appreciate your concern. Your being impressed or caring means nothing to me. You being confused however? I totally get. I could explain it to you, but I'm a busy guy.

    BTW, it's not cool to bend what I said. You made a blanket statement, I corrected you. That's all. No big thing.

    I will admit "Got that out of the way?" was a little on the rough side as rhetoric goes, and if your feelings were hurt, I apologize without reservation.

    Anyway, back on track, I hope the UFC and Conor resolve matters. I wish Conor, his family, his team, and everyone involved in Irish MMA nothing but the best. They're good people.


  • #3006
    darced
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  • #3007
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Axwell wrote: »
    Fully expect him to be on the New York card too and have said it from when this all kicked off but at this stage he is over training with Gunni who has a fight in May anyways so the training is as much for Gunni as it is for McGregor. They have nothing to lose really trying to get things their way with these tweets, it will do very little damage. Dana will either fold or stand his ground, most likely stand his ground and then UFC 200 will go ahead without McGregor. They will say no more about it and UFC New York will be announced with McGregor on the card and Dana and him will be buddies again.

    It has become too big now and too public for Dana or the UFC to back down, it isn't an option for them anymore.

    McGregor won't be seen to come crawling back either so it will just go off without him, and then everybody moves on.

    Dana has been at pains to get across that he isn't angry (has to be a lie) that he still likes Conor etc, and Conor did not attack Dana in any way personally, that I saw anyway, so they made sure to leave themselves room to move on from this when it blows over.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3008
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Didn't see it.

    Does it explain his tweet from earlier that I asked you about?

    Didn't see them but ofcourse he's always gonna back up McGregor


  • #3009
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    darced wrote: »
    Conor said in his statement he wanted the schedule changed, he never mentioned the UFC changing anything.

    Yes, we are all aware he wanted it changed. But that's because the promo schedule changed. The team have alluded to a change of schedule, he wasn't originally supposed to be doing promo work this week for example.


  • #3010
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Biography
    To research his books, Sean Black has trained as a bodyguard in the UK and Eastern Europe, spent time inside America's most dangerous Supermax prison, Pelican Bay in California, undergone desert survival training in Arizona, and ventured into the tunnels under Las Vegas.
    A graduate of Oxford University, England and Coiumbia University in New York, Sean lives in Dublin, Ireland.

    yisser all dead lads


  • #3011
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    .ak wrote: »
    Didn't see them but ofcourse he's always gonna back up McGregor

    Of course, but he is not playing the situation perfectly, or making it smoother for McGregor if he is antagonizing their boss is he?

    That's all, he comes across well the vast majority of the time, as an aside a friend of mine met them at dinner last night and spoke highly of both, but the man can be an absolute disaster when it comes to twitter. It isn't the first dumb tweet he has had.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • #3012
    Spudman_20000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Didn't see it.

    Does it explain his tweet from earlier that I asked you about?

    Are you referring to Kavanagh asking people to boycott 200? Didn't see where he asked people to do any such thing.


  • #3013
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    The main sticking point for the UFC I think is the whole point of him fighting Diaz is the media tour beforehand. If it was RDA they'd prob let him skip it. But himself and Diaz on a long tour, isolated together, all the UFC see is $$$.

    This isn't exactly a precedent either. Aldo asked late enough to be excused from UFC 194 due to him wanting to focus on fighting. Conor did the leg work for both men here and Jose didn't have to leave Brazil until fightweek and missed all the pre fight pressers.


  • #3014
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • #3015
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    darced wrote: »
    Then how would the UFC be able to pull him from a fight when he signed a contract?

    I'd imagine the UFC contract allows them to schedule promos at any stage.


  • #3016
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Spudman_20000 wrote: »
    Are you referring to Kavanagh asking people to boycott 200? Didn't see where he asked people to do any such thing.

    Ok.

    You actually want me to show you the tweet where he told people they are the customers, its up to them to cause a fuss, what do they want to see press conferences or fights...

    Or you wanna use google?


    Edit: Ah you know what, thats mean. Maybe you aren't going to argue semantics with me.

    Here


    Coach KavanaghVerified account

    ‏@John_Kavanagh

    Ur call now. You are the customers. What do you want? Press conferences or fights? Make some noise because we're ready to do the damn thing!

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3017
    Spudman_20000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Ok.

    You actually want me to show you the tweet where he told people they are the customers, its up to them to cause a fuss, what do they want to see press conferences or fights...

    Or you wanna use google?

    How is that the same as asking people to not purchase and watch the event?

    Maybe you should Google "boycott".


  • #3018
    FollowMyWay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭FollowMyWay


    Tigger wrote: »
    yisser all dead lads

    Can't wait for the next chapter, where Sean's survival skills are put to the test battling on the internet forums.


  • #3019
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Spudman_20000 wrote: »
    How is that the same as asking people to not purchase and watch the event?

    Maybe you should Google "boycott".

    I enjoy a good semantics debate as much as the next man..........which is not very much tbh.

    If you don't want to admit him referencing them being the customers, asking them what they want to see, telling them to make some noise etc is encouraging them to not purchase or support the event....not to mention pressurize the company, good luck to you.

    If you think it helps smooth over anything between Conor and the company or that the company won't take that tweet to be an act discouraging people supporting the event, or need people to spell out absolutely everything to you, good luck also.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3020
    darced
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  • #3021
    SeanBlack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭SeanBlack


    Tigger wrote: »
    yisser all dead lads

    Publishers write that ****. Nothing to do with me. I spent my formative years as a girl guide and my evenings are spent doing knitting and needle point.

    If I'm allowed to be serious though, and as I've said to someone in PM, I have been seriously impressed with the Irish MMA community in the last few weeks. If Ireland had a fraction of the pragmatism, humanity and heart that you guys (and gals) have then we'd been in great shape.

    Okay, tear to a glass eyes stuff over, please resume the Conor conspiracy theories. :)


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  • #3022
    dave1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Ufc could crush conor and whole sbg team in a instant. They should take their lumps and move on not poke sleeping dog anymore


  • #3023
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Sounds that way alright but wasnt there a mention that he asked for it to be moved to May rather than this week as well? Its still all very wishy washy in terms of the specifics of contracts and what was there or not but it seems stupid on both parties to sign a contract that doesn't clearly stipulate the specifics of all promotional commitments required. If it does then I really don't see why he would be complaining about it now and feel that they would just bend on it but likewise if it just generally says promotional commitments and they added in a mini tour after he signed its a bit cheeky on their part. Neither would surprise me at this stage though and imo the outcome is still he will just fight at New York and that will be that.


  • #3024
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    StringerBell wrote: »
    I enjoy a good semantics debate as much as the next man..........which is not very much tbh.

    If you don't want to admit him referencing them being the customers, asking them what they want to see, telling them to make some noise etc is encouraging them to not purchase or support the event....not to mention pressurize the company, good luck to you.

    If you think it helps smooth over anything between Conor and the company or that the company won't take that tweet to be an act discouraging people supporting the event, or need people to spell out absolutely everything to you, good luck also.

    You completely missed the point of his tweet. He's asking the fans to make some noise to get Conor back on the card. In otherwords tweet Dana, UFC etc etc to push for Conor at 200. It's not a request to boycott.


  • #3025
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,474 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Ufc could crush conor and whole sbg team in a instant. They should take their lumps and move on not poke sleeping dog anymore

    Yeah they could if they don't like money. Is UFC a publicly traded company?


  • #3026
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    You completely missed the point of his tweet. He's asking the fans to make some noise to get Conor back on the card. In otherwords tweet Dana, UFC etc etc to push for Conor at 200. It's not a request to boycott.

    Really?

    I appreciate that you interpreted it that way, except one thing. Why did he reference the people as customers, as in paying for something, and not simply fans in that case?

    There is a difference in "you are the fans, what do you want to see"

    And "its up to you now,you are the customers, what do you want to see"

    Why make reference to them being customers, and not fans?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3027
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    CSF wrote: »
    Yeah they could if they don't like money. Is UFC a publicly traded company?

    Don't think so, Zuffa is a private company is it?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3028
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Really?

    I appreciate that you interpreted it that way, except one thing. Why did he reference the people as customers, as in paying for something, and not simply fans in that case?

    There is a difference in "you are the fans, what do you want to see"

    And "its up to you now,you are the customers, what do you want to see"

    Why make reference to them being customers, and not fans?

    Because the customer is always right. You the "customers" are the ones shelling out money. Push for Conor. They have to listen to you "the customers". I think you're being a bit pedantic to be honest. I take what he said at face value.


  • #3029
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Really?

    I appreciate that you interpreted it that way, except one thing. Why did he reference the people as customers, as in paying for something, and not simply fans in that case?

    There is a difference in "you are the fans, what do you want to see"

    And "its up to you now,you are the customers, what do you want to see"

    Why make reference to them being customers, and not fans?

    cos promotion is to get customers to watch
    the fans will watch anyways


  • #3030
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    Because the customer is always right. You the "customers" are the ones shelling out money. Push for Conor. They have to listen to you "the customers". I think you're being a bit pedantic to be honest. I take what he said at face value.

    I don't think its me being pedantic about it tbh. I think you may be deliberately, or accidentally being naive about it but I don't feel the need to argue over it though. It is there for all to see, people will draw their own conclusions from it, as they always do.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • #3031
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Tigger wrote: »
    cos promotion is to get customers to watch
    the fans will watch anyways

    I'm not sure who you are agreeing with tbh.

    :confused::D

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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