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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #2972
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    SeanBlack wrote: »
    No, he did not.

    He declined SPECIFIC media/press obligations at a certain point in time that would adversely affect him/his team/his family.

    Got that out of the way?

    Cool, we're on the same page.

    Now it may well be that there is an overarching and vaguely worded clause about 'making reasonable effort to fulfill any and all required promotional obligations.' These clauses can he worded in a hundred ways and clause 4.6 can contradict 5.7, which then contradicts clause 10.1.

    But as far as we know, he declined to do certain events in a certain time scale. There is a world of difference between saying I won't promote this event, and what has happened.

    Where did the person in what you quoted say ALL media and press obligations?

    There was never any mention either from Conor of the obligations having an effect on his family either. He wanted time to focus on training.

    You have a total of 4 posts on boards..lose the attitude with your "got that out of the way?" nonsense.


  • #2973
    SeanBlack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭SeanBlack


    the whole year inn wrote: »
    Hes looking for more time to train and then less for Diaz,that doesnt seem fair to me.

    You're right. It's very unfair that someone who did 100 times the promo of Diaz before the first fight should want to scale back.

    Diaz ain't the show.

    Conor's the show.

    Which is why Dana has had a teenage girl ("Well, I'm not taking you to the prom then") hissy fit about this, all gussied up in contractual talk that any half decent attorney is going to shred in a two page brief.

    It won't come to that, but the UFC line being pushed by Rogan, et. al., is patent nonsense.

    Heads will be banged together. Conor will be at UFC 200 and things will be settled by the only two men who should count in all of this. Or it'll move to the Garden for an even bigger gate.


  • #2974
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,473 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    zpehtsfd wrote: »
    Dana will never submit to any fighter, never has, never will. The "Retiring" stunt going to backfire. imo

    Stick him in a cage with Khabib and that changes very quickly :)


  • #2975
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,473 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    By the way if you're one of the people who backed the 9/4 in William Hills and want to lock in a profit, Paddy Power are now paying 5/2 on him not to fight at UFC 200. Which coincidentally I also think is huge but ill leave it.


  • #2976
    hefferboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    Mcgregors a fcuking hero


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  • #2977
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Axwell wrote: »
    Where did the person in what you quoted say ALL media and press obligations?

    There was never any mention either from Conor of the obligations having an effect on his family either. He wanted time to focus on training.

    You have a total of 4 posts on boards..lose the attitude with your "got that out of the way?" nonsense.

    Why does his post count matter if he's right?

    He said he refused to do them. It's not an unfair implication to take from that he meant all of them.


  • #2978
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,473 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    Why does his post count matter if he's right?

    Being right doesn't necessitate a dismissive posting tone. My experience of forums has always been that people who come in straight away with a dismissive condescending posting tones generally don't make for good reading even when they're right.


  • #2979
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • #2980
    SeanBlack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭SeanBlack


    Axwell wrote: »
    Where did the person in what you quoted in that say ALL media and press obligations?

    There was never any mention either from Conor of the obligations having an effect on his family either. He wanted time to focus on training.

    You have a total of 4 posts on boards..lose the attitude with your "got that out of the way?" nonsense.

    Here's your quote:
    StringerBell wrote: »
    He did refuse to do media and press obligations.

    I took all from that.
    StringerBell wrote: »
    He did refuse to do media and press obligations.

    Oh, and four posts or not, please spare me the internet tough guy stuff. I use my real name and I'm easily found on Google.


  • #2981
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,473 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    SeanBlack wrote: »
    I use my real name and I'm easily found on Google.

    Fuuuuuuuu*ck. Who needs a Conor press conference when you've got this guy?


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  • #2982
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    CSF wrote: »
    Being right doesn't necessitate a dismissive posting tone. My experience of forums has always been that people who come in straight away with a dismissive condescending posting tones generally don't make for good reading even when they're right.

    Didn't really see it as condescending myself, but sure each to their own.


  • #2983
    ASOT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,764 ✭✭✭ASOT


    darced wrote: »
    Didn't think I'd see McGregor wheeling out the excuses for getting beat because that is what that statement is, I couldn't train properly bla bla bla.

    He signed the contract and now he wants it changed. Why did he sign the contract only weeks ago?

    I cant see the UFC bending on this and I'm not even sure Conor wants them to which is a pity because I was really looking forward to see how it played out.

    Why is Kavanagh still on twitter, he is constantly putting his foot in it.

    To be honest I don't see it as him wheeling out excuses it sceams of him realising he needs to put a shift in if he wants to get the W because he knows Diaz can beat him again.


  • #2984
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    SeanBlack wrote: »
    Here's your quote:

    I took all all from that.

    Oh, and four posts or not, please spare me the internet tough guy stuff. I use my real name and I'm easily found on Google.

    Nothing to do with being an internet tough guy...you use your real name and I can find you on google..and I am supposed to be impressed/care or :confused: im confused.

    Point is come on here posting nonsense like ""got that out of the way?" is going to lead to a ban. Your post count means you might not be familiar with the rules of boards of the forum, would suggest you go look at them.


  • #2985
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • #2986
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    SeanBlack wrote: »
    No, he did not.

    Yes he did.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #2987
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • #2988
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    StringerBell wrote: »
    I'm not trying to be snarky here, but in relation to this.

    Facebook shares, likes, tweets, retweets etc

    Honestly, who gives a flying ****?

    Roughly one hundred and seventy two thousand people?


  • #2989
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    He did yes

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #2990
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Do we know what agreement was in the contract as regards promotion - the way he is talking there was a press conference agreed and on the table and has said he has no problem with that. Was the mini tour mentioned or was that something the UFC added in later and when he said no to it they said tough you have to do it because of media obligations. It would seem odd to sign the contract weeks ago like you said and create a fuss about it now.


  • #2991
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Axwell wrote: »
    Do we know what agreement was in the contract as regards promotion - the way he is talking there was a press conference agreed and on the table and has said he has no problem with that. Was the mini tour mentioned or was that something the UFC added in later and said tough you have to do it because of media obligations. It would seem odd to sign the contract weeks ago like you said and create a fuss about it now.

    We don't know for sure (or I don't anyway)

    I would imagine though that if this media work was not mentioned and agreed to by Conor and his team at the time they would be beating that drum in their public statements?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • #2992
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    darced wrote: »
    Didn't think I'd see McGregor wheeling out the excuses for getting beat because that is what that statement is, I couldn't train properly bla bla bla.

    He signed the contract and now he wants it changed. Why did he sign the contract only weeks ago?

    I cant see the UFC bending on this and I'm not even sure Conor wants them to which is a pity because I was really looking forward to see how it played out.

    Why is Kavanagh still on twitter, he is constantly putting his foot in it.

    Ha I think Kavanagh is genius. Completely making fun of the situation, he's a brilliant man manager, and a gent. He's playing the situation perfectly, making the situation a bit smoother for his boy.


  • #2993
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    .ak wrote: »
    Ha I think Kavanagh is genius. Completely making fun of the situation, he's a brilliant man manager, and a gent. He's playing the situation perfectly, making the situation a bit smoother for his boy.

    Kavanagh comes across grand everywhere except social media.

    I don't see how him encouraging people to boycott UFC200 or to pressure the company (their employer) into putting Conor back on the card is playing the situation perfectly in terms of making the situation smoother.

    How do those two things correlate?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #2994
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    StringerBell wrote: »
    We don't know for sure (or I don't anyway)

    I would imagine though that if this media work was not mentioned and agreed to by Conor and his team at the time they would be beating that drum in their public statements?

    I'm not really sure either party wants to go beating any drum though and start making claims of that nature.Dana hasnt gone crazy over the whole thing, hes been calm and just said McGregor is pulled for not agreeing to do the promotional stuff. Conor posts on facebook today and doesnt get too agressive towards Dana or the UFC either. They are at an impass but the UFC wants Conor to stay and he has no intention of retiring right now either.


  • #2995
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Find it hilarious the amount of people who just want an alterior motive. Like since the first tweet it's gone from drug conspiracies to the death of another mma fighter, now it's a guy who can't win a prefight trash talk...

    The guy wants to train and train proper because his conditioning let him down last time and he realises the advantage a bigger man has.

    Why is that so hard to accept for some people?


  • #2996
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    People have been saying for awhile that Conor needed to take a break after all of last year and UFC 196...its too much. I guess we are seeing what happens when the UFC asks for too much or Conor doesn't say no enough. Both are kinda to blame for this situation.

    I think it was the SevereMMA interview before UFC196 when they asked him when is the Ireland stadium fight happening, he said he was commited to UFC200 and they'd most like make him do NYC too. I'm sure if this incident never came up and Conor promoted and fought at UFC 200, the UFC would make definetly mske him headline NYC defending his belt.

    I wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for Conor to skip out of UFC200 and focus on defending his belt in NYC and do all the promos then.


  • #2997
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,343 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Maybe it's all an elaborate hoax to drum up publicity? If it is it's certainly working.

    You can't sign a contract and then refuse to fulfill the terms of that contract a few weeks later. What's changed between yesterday and back when he signed the contract? He suddenly had an epiphany and realised he needs to train more to beat someone who's essentially a weight class above him? I don't buy it.

    I think if he fights at UFC 200 then this was all a ruse. If not then maybe they really did have a falling out.


  • #2998
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Axwell wrote: »
    I'm not really sure either party wants to go beating any drum though and start making claims of that nature.Dana hasnt gone crazy over the whole thing, hes been calm and just said McGregor is pulled for not agreeing to do the promotional stuff. Conor posts on facebook today and doesnt get too agressive towards Dana or the UFC either. They are at an impass but the UFC wants Conor to stay and he has no intention of retiring right now either.

    I fully expect him back for New York, and I fully expect everything to be smoothed over. Which is exactly why tweets like the one from Kavanagh earlier have got to be counter productive to this whole thing.

    They need to find a path to reconciliation now while both saving face. Neither will want to attack the other particularly, they are worth too much money to each other.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #2999
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • #3000
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Kavanagh comes across grand everywhere except social media.

    I don't see how him encouraging people to boycott UFC200 or to pressure the company (their employer) into putting Conor back on the card is playing the situation perfectly in terms of making the situation smoother.

    How do those two things correlate?

    The pic of him taking the phone off McGregor is brilliant I think. Lightens the mood,


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  • #3001
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Maybe it's all an elaborate hoax to drum up publicity? If it is it's certainly working.

    You can't sign a contract and then refuse to fulfill the terms of that contract a few weeks later. What's changed between yesterday and back when he signed the contract? He suddenly had an epiphany and realised he needs to train more to beat someone who's essentially a weight class above him? I don't buy it.

    I think if he fights at UFC 200 then this was all a ruse. If not then maybe they really did have a falling out.

    The UFC changed the promo schedule.


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