New Boards Layout

Permabear · 20-04-2016 10:34PM

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Chain Smoker · 20-04-2016 10:36PM

:rolleyes:

20-04-2016 10:44PM

Originally Posted by Candie
I'm genuinely suprised it's been years in development. How did they get it so wrong if they had all that time? I know that sounds harsh but it's a genuine question.

Wibbs wrote: »

Because the work involved with effectively from scratch creating a new online forum software/platform is a herculean task(never mind keeping it running across new and old databases in real time). I have serious levels of respect and admiration for the folks who worked on this.

Well that's what I mean. If all that time and money is spent on developing it, then surely listening to the end users opinion of it is imperative to getting it right? It would appear that users opinions are mostly disregarded, though I'm sure that's more appearance than fact - but still important.

Any sucessful business tailors it's product for the customer. In Boards case the users provide the traffic that makes the advertising revenue come in, so they're the revenue generating customers. And the customer doesn't want these 'improvement's' from what I can see. And the bods were aware of this, and went ahead anyway. I just don't see any business sense involved in these decisions.

If I go to the supermarket every week and say I want an orange and every week they give me an apple, then sooner or later I'm going to another supermarket.

ED E · 20-04-2016 10:51PM

I'm still on the old "--boards.ie Beta" skin from I'm guessing the early 00's. IMO way better than any of the newer changes.

One eyed Jack · 20-04-2016 10:53PM

Just got this message on the beta touch site (it looks to have changed again in the last couple of hours since I accidentally switched it on this morning) -

"Hi there, it seems that you are using the Microsoft Edge browser. Unfortunately this browser has some compatibility issues with our editor when using the Enter key.

We are working towards a solution, in the meantime press Shift + Enter (rather than Enter) for a new line."

Also, the editing box on the touch site is only an inch in height, and accommodates a max of five lines, so if I'm writing a post of any significant length (as I tend to do), I'll have some amount of scrolling to do. I dread the idea of quoting a post, having already seen what a mess the beta site makes of trying to read them and the amount of padding around the post that just about allows for three words per line.

I think someone went a bit mad with the Crayola too. Every element on the page is a different colour, which doesn't make for easy readability, it just makes for a headache reminiscent of "The Scream"

EDIT:

doesn't work on the beta site of course :rolleyes:

Discodog · 20-04-2016 10:55PM

Candie wrote: »

Well that's what I mean. If all that time and money is spent on developing it, then surely listening to the end users opinion of it is imperative to getting it right? It would appear that users opinions are mostly disregarded, though I'm sure that's more appearance than fact - but still important.

Any sucessful business tailors it's product for the customer. In Boards case the users provide the traffic that makes the advertising revenue come in, so they're the revenue generating customers. And the customer doesn't want these 'improvement's' from what I can see. And the bods were aware of this, and went ahead anyway. I just don't see any business sense involved in these decisions.

If I go to the supermarket every week and say I want an orange and every week they give me an apple, then sooner or later I'm going to another supermarket.

From what I have read Boards believe that the current layout isn't user friendly for new users & it's puts them off posting.

Maybe we are being subjected to the classic politics trick? Tell us that we are going to get something horrible & then we won't complain when it's just bad.

Chain Smoker · 20-04-2016 10:59PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Just got this message on the beta touch site (it looks to have changed again in the last couple of hours since I accidentally switched it on this morning) -

"Hi there, it seems that you are using the Microsoft Edge browser. Unfortunately this browser has some compatibility issues with our editor when using the Enter key.

We are working towards a solution, in the meantime press Shift + Enter (rather than Enter) for a new line."

Also, the editing box on the touch site is only an inch in height, and accommodates a max of five lines, so if I'm writing a post of any significant length (as I tend to do), I'll have some amount of scrolling to do. I dread the idea of quoting a post, having already seen what a mess the beta site makes of trying to read them and the amount of padding around the post that just about allows for three words per line.

As a sh!tty frontend developer myself, I request that you please switch to Chrome.

20-04-2016 11:00PM

Discodog wrote: »

From what I have read Boards believe that the current layout isn't user friendly for new users & it's puts them off posting.

It's mad, I couldn't navigate Reddit to save my life yet I find Boards to be absolutely fine. Different strokes and all that.

One eyed Jack · 20-04-2016 11:21PM

Chain Smoker wrote: »

As a sh!tty frontend developer myself, I request that you please switch to Chrome.

Windows Phone 10, Chrome isn't an option...

(I can hear you facepalm from here :pac:)

Seve OB · 20-04-2016 11:25PM

Now Microsoft Edge............ That is a serious piece of sh1t

5starpool · 20-04-2016 11:34PM

ED E wrote: »

I'm still on the old "--boards.ie Beta" skin from I'm guessing the early 00's. IMO way better than any of the newer changes.

That's the vbulletin 3.x default skin,and what I still use as well. It'll be a horrible day when we are forced away from it to use the new monstrosity of an interface. I'm sure we'll get used to it though, but I really hate it.

Eugene Norman · 20-04-2016 11:37PM

There's some strange missing functionality (on the touch side at least). If I search for my recent posts I get a list of posts in that large card style. The card shows some of my post, the number of views and replies to that thread (useful to devs more than me) and a link to the forum or my name at the bottom. What I can't do is go to that thread or my post in it.

One eyed Jack · 20-04-2016 11:41PM

Bloody nightmare trying to get out of the touch beta site too. I eventually ended up clearing the cache as I could find no link to any Legacy option.

Also, the title headers and font size are far too large. I know eventually the beta site will be introduced, but I think the idea behind it is that Boards won't lose users, but that it will gain many more. They're likely right, but it's a slap in the face for it's current users that they're only given a few months to make the transition to what appears by all accounts a step backwards.

Wibbs · 20-04-2016 11:51PM

gandalf wrote: »

This site survives because of the content generated by its users.

I agree 100% G, but sadly it is my impression that of late that is being missed more and more in the quite understandable pursuit of finding a way to keep the funds flowing.

Edward Hopper · 20-04-2016 11:53PM

Lots of very eloquent reasons why the new site is so bad, so I'll be brief.

It's just an unusable fugly mess.

Our survey says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XMW6Z_Oq38

Seve OB · 21-04-2016 12:01AM

ED E wrote: »

I'm still on the old "--boards.ie Beta" skin from I'm guessing the early 00's. IMO way better than any of the newer changes.

5starpool wrote: »

That's the vbulletin 3.x default skin,and what I still use as well. It'll be a horrible day when we are forced away from it to use the new monstrosity of an interface. I'm sure we'll get used to it though, but I really hate it.

is that the "white skin"
thats what i'm using. i remember when the more modern version came out i couldn't cope with it, if this new thing actually happens for real it will put me over the top

keith16 · 21-04-2016 12:05AM

It's clear that the team are determined to head down this path regardless. I wish them well.

I guess I can see what they are trying to do. But it just fails in so many functional and cosmetic areas.

In particular, the "talk-to" hover over just makes me want to leave the site immediately. All style and no substance I'm afraid. Likely the end of boards for me.

gandalf · 21-04-2016 12:17AM

Wibbs wrote: »

I agree 100% G, but sadly it is my impression that of late that is being missed more and more in the quite understandable pursuit of finding a way to keep the funds flowing.

Yes but it is a downward spiral Wibbs. By engineering a site that visually enables more ads they will reduce the number of users making it less attractive to advertisers.

Howjoe1 · 21-04-2016 12:18AM

i'm getting the old layout on home PC?!!

Esel · 21-04-2016 03:09AM

Form != Function

UI means User Interface

U means User

Ads ?= Revenue

BeanCount = Everything (?)

Subscriber = Bean = €

Mod != Sap

.ie != die

Fields = I remember when this was all

Dogs in the street != Meat

tl/dr Fields

mtl/dr Tumbleweed

wmtl/dr Ads → Beans → Clickthrough

Knex* · 21-04-2016 08:28AM

gandalf wrote: »

Yes but it is a downward spiral Wibbs. By engineering a site that visually enables more ads they will reduce the number of users making it less attractive to advertisers.

And if you need to have adblock off in order for the new site to function properly, not only will they lose current users, but they'll lose potential new users too.

Any website where I can't use adblock, I avoid, and I'm definitely not the only one.

jester77 · 21-04-2016 08:46AM

I'm still on the blue one, no idea what the theme is called. But it is or was at that time the only one with a decent menu. All the newer sub threads are now missing from the menu, but at least I am not having to always click and click and click to find a forum.

Blue beta is the name of the theme I was referring to, just tried the beta new... wtf, the menu is getting worse and worse, how are you meant to find anything. People will have to print a sitemap just to find their way around. I will stick with beta blue, they got the menu spot on for that theme.

DrumSteve · 21-04-2016 08:50AM

M.boards.ie for life.

fussyonion · 21-04-2016 09:23AM

I don't like it.
I've liked most of the new features Boards introduced over the years but I really hate the new look.
It doesn't feel user-friendly; it's a bit confusing looking and looks nothing like the Boards we know and love.
I feel I'm on a completely different site.

Wibbs · 21-04-2016 09:25AM

fussyonion wrote: »

I feel I'm on a completely different site.

This.

Dyr · 21-04-2016 09:32AM

Anyone remember the simpsons layout?

Harry Palmr · 21-04-2016 09:43AM

Bambi wrote: »

Anyone remember the simpsons layout?

That's my default!

Seve OB · 21-04-2016 09:48AM

Bambi wrote: »

Anyone remember the simpsons layout?

it's still there

CelticRambler · 21-04-2016 09:50AM

There's a forum for (mainly) English-speakers in France that used to be the equivalent of Boards.ie until we were treated to a series of "enhanced user experience" upgrades. The latest produced a site that looked like this boards Beta, with way too much irrelevant screen padding, the loss of most of our favourite tools/features and disgruntlement all around.

The outcome was predictable: quality conversations dropped right off and the place now is mainly a forum for trolls and spammers, with a few die-hards like myself who've used custom-CSS to "fix" the styling mistakes of the programmers (most notably stretching the useful content across the empty ad-blocked space on the right).

Dyr · 21-04-2016 09:51AM

Seve OB wrote: »

it's still there

I'm afraid to take a trip down memory lane because if I change my layout settings my browser may be press ganged into this new layout malarkey

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