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whelan2 · 07-04-2016 09:50AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Found the segment questioning how all these extra cows where ment to be feed very Intresting some very valid points about wetter winters/climate change...
Then simply Simon comes in tagging the teagasc line about growing more grass/cows staying out for longer, was at a walk yesterday 180 cows on 56 hectare block, was out of silage, and buying in to keep going....
Of course the farm was powering ahead to 240 cows within the next few years on existing block, was madness in my view considering current farm position and investment needed to get to that number but their wasn't anyone in the group that questioned it

What some people consider madness, others consider a challenge. Wont go beyond 160 here for a while until I see what eldest lads plans are. Was very lucky when easter fell this year that he was here to help, he is gone back to school for a rest :rolleyes:

whelan2 · 07-04-2016 09:52AM

morning from hell here, 2 cows down in cubicle sheds. 1 was cow who had lda operation a few weeks ago, I only let her with milkers yesterday. Oh away had to get my dad and lad that does a bit of milking for me to come and help. 2 cows are up and standing now anyway. Kids were late for school too :cool:

jaymla627 · 07-04-2016 10:25AM

whelan2 wrote: »

What some people consider madness, others consider a challenge. Wont go beyond 160 here for a while until I see what eldest lads plans are. Was very lucky when easter fell this year that he was here to help, he is gone back to school for a rest :rolleyes:

I really don't think it can be dressed up as a challange, expanding numbers in a situation where your cop won't be covered and probably in the red while going and having to drop another half a million on capital expenditure to cater for these extra cows (new 24 unit parlour/building needed pencilled into be built plus a small fortune was going to have to be spent on roads/water facilities)......
I've no problem with lads upping numbers and spending small fortunes while doing so but alot of guys need to open their eyes and think for themselves and not what their over enthusiastic teagasc advisor thinks with his fantasy land figures/projections

Timmaay · 07-04-2016 10:47AM

whelan2 wrote: »

morning from hell here, 2 cows down in cubicle sheds. 1 was cow who had lda operation a few weeks ago, I only let her with milkers yesterday. Oh away had to get my dad and lad that does a bit of milking for me to come and help. 2 cows are up and standing now anyway. Kids were late for school too :cool:

Not much better here, I hate April, I especially hate April with sh1ty weather, and loads of fresh calvers ha. Always the big bloody awkward troublemaker HOs calving this time of the year also! (morning rant off my chest ha)

whelan2 · 07-04-2016 10:49AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Not much better here, I hate April, I especially hate April with sh1ty weather, and loads of fresh calvers ha. Always the big bloody awkward troublemaker HOs calving this time of the year also! (morning rant off my chest ha)

Won't make it to Glanbia meeting either. Disaster of a day so far

Water John · 07-04-2016 10:51AM

That's why meetings are held when farmers are under pressure. Less turn out and anyone present anxious to get home.

howdee · 07-04-2016 10:53AM

howdee wrote: »

Have 6 ton of the bloody stuff to use up tho first. Iv upped the meal to 6kg this morning, and i might up it to 7 in a day or two.

I've just used what's in store and need to order a ration for Monday, forgive me but I'm not that up on ration so can someone recommend what ingredients at best atm, diet is 6kg of grass, 6kgs of silage (72dmd) and 5kg of meal. Protein is floating around 3.0, 3.1. Yield is 23 litres.

freedominacup · 07-04-2016 11:03AM

howdee wrote: »

I've just used what's in store and need to order a ration for Monday, forgive me but I'm not that up on ration so can someone recommend what ingredients at best atm, diet is 6kg of grass, 6kgs of silage (72dmd) and 5kg of meal. Protein is floating around 3.0, 3.1. Yield is 23 litres.

How much longer will you be feeding silage? You need energy but with that type of silage going in you will still need some quality pr going in also. How fast will you ho through a six tonne batch?

howdee · 07-04-2016 11:33AM

freedominacup wrote: »

How much longer will you be feeding silage? You need energy but with that type of silage going in you will still need some quality pr going in also. How fast will you ho through a six tonne batch?

Probably another 3 weeks given growth rates and stocking rate. Maybe more. I will get through the 6 tons in 15 days.

kowtow · 07-04-2016 12:01PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Not much better here, I hate April, I especially hate April with sh1ty weather, and loads of fresh calvers ha. Always the big bloody awkward troublemaker HOs calving this time of the year also! (morning rant off my chest ha)

"APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain..."

Dawggone · 07-04-2016 12:09PM

kowtow wrote: »

"APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain..."

T.S. Elliot.

Was it the Velvet Underground that reckoned April was the time to get wasted? Not sure.

Dawggone · 07-04-2016 12:48PM

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blackdog1 · 07-04-2016 12:54PM

freedominacup wrote: »

How much longer will you be feeding silage? You need energy but with that type of silage going in you will still need some quality pr going in also. How fast will you ho through a six tonne batch?

Switched to a 14% nut this weekend. Maize,wheat ,soya hulls, barley and soya bean. Bit worried about the protein myself as I'm feeding silage too,

freedominacup · 07-04-2016 01:00PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

Switched to a 14% nut this weekend. Maize,wheat ,soya hulls, barley and soya bean. Bit worried about the protein myself as I'm feeding silage too,

With soya as your main/only pr source you should be fairly ok. With those ingredients and assuming hulls no more than 15% of the ration a protein of 16% would be pretty much perfect while silage was going in.

blackdog1 · 07-04-2016 01:17PM

freedominacup wrote: »

With soya as your main/only pr source you should be fairly ok. With those ingredients and assuming hulls no more than 15% of the ration a protein of 16% would be pretty much perfect while silage was going in.

I was thinking the same . I'll be in 2,yr old silage too fairly soon which tested 16% or and 76dmd so that will help too.

whelan2 · 07-04-2016 06:26PM

whelan2 wrote: »

morning from hell here, 2 cows down in cubicle sheds. 1 was cow who had lda operation a few weeks ago, I only let her with milkers yesterday. Oh away had to get my dad and lad that does a bit of milking for me to come and help. 2 cows are up and standing now anyway. Kids were late for school too :cool:

lda cow died, feck it any way. Must have damaged something internally when she went down

Timmaay · 07-04-2016 07:28PM

whelan2 wrote: »

lda cow died, feck it any way. Must have damaged something internally when she went down

My day didnt pickup either, cow with twins, 1st one stillborn, 2nd one doesn't have much life at all, have him under the lamp at the minute. Then some bitch bulling decides to plough through the paddock fence into fresh grass in a wet patch, and of course just before I bring them up for milking, which I had to do with myown two feet as the quad ran outa petrol. Then another big mature HO who calved earlier refused to get up when I was getting her for milking, given her a bottle of calcium and will see in a while if she gets up. Missed training tonight again as a result of at this, but would have been too shattered to do anything if I'd finished up in time.

Mehaffey1 · 07-04-2016 11:15PM

Everyones having a great time by the sounds of it. Young Equity Partner is back from his work in Australia, going to put the boot in round the place. One of your typical farm by computer types

Water John · 07-04-2016 11:19PM

Ah Mehaffy, you're just missing the 'fine' weather here and are jealous.

Mehaffey1 · 07-04-2016 11:22PM

Water John wrote: »

Ah Mehaffy, you're just missing the 'fine' weather here and are jealous.

Land back in 18 days so that'll be the end of my escape. To be fair we've had an outrageously wet morning worked through breakfast because when you're spake you're soaked.

keep going · 07-04-2016 11:47PM

a days ago a heifer threw a small feotus about the size of a chicken but while she has no springing ,she looks to me like she is in calf.is that possible

Kovu · 07-04-2016 11:49PM

keep going wrote: »

a days ago a heifer threw a small feotus about the size of a chicken but while she has no springing ,she looks to me like she is in calf.is that possible

Ectopic pregnancy in conjunction with a normal pregnancy?

Muckit · 08-04-2016 09:32AM

Dawggone wrote: »

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The dirty bastards started taking the shirt off his back..... starting with the sleeves

keep going · 08-04-2016 10:31AM

Kovu wrote: »

Ectopic pregnancy in conjunction with a normal pregnancy?

Could be , but I dont always get them right by appearance either

freedominacup · 09-04-2016 10:10AM

Two old girls heading for Ross this morning. Five years to the day since they were bought. 30000l plus each at over 3.7pr. They should get within €200 each of their purchase price too. Calved last spring still doing 18-20l at March recording. Taken out of the parlour this morning. If every cow earned like these girls you wouldn't be doing too bad.

alps · 10-04-2016 06:38AM

Finally picked up the courage to go again after a week inside......put them out yesterday to a beautiful blue sky, and it hailstones within an hour out of a blue sky....

Just as well milk price is good...

whelan2 · 10-04-2016 09:58AM

Going to let bull with heifers this week looks like they will be staying in rather than going out, will put them in a big pen in slatted shed.

Milked out · 10-04-2016 10:04AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Going to let bull with heifers this week looks like they will be staying in rather than going out, will put them in a big pen in slatted shed.

Will u Ai any of them? Bigger ones in here as well. Have smaller ones out with a vasectomies bull.

whelan2 · 10-04-2016 10:12AM

Milked out wrote: »

Will u Ai any of them? Bigger ones in here as well. Have smaller ones out with a vasectomies bull.

no dont have enough help here.

Brown Podzol · 10-04-2016 11:09AM

alps wrote: »

Finally picked up the courage to go again after a week inside......put them out yesterday to a beautiful blue sky, and it hailstones within an hour out of a blue sky....

Just as well milk price is good...

Had you a few bulling? Smashing looking cow there at the back.

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