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whelan2

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

First grass tetany this afternoon. Got her in time.

Feck, what was the weather like with you today, fantastic spring day here

RightTurnClyde

whelan2 wrote: »

Feck, what was the weather like with you today, fantastic spring day here

This early for it alright. Not a bad day, but some cold showers earlier this morning. She was bulling coming in this morning, but considering the meal they're on, I got a bit of a land

freedominacup

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

First grass tetany this afternoon. Got her in time.

What's your treatment? Lost one last year. Didn't get to her in time. Gave a bottle of cal with 50ml of mg in it iv. Half an hour earlier and I think I might have saved her.

Milked out

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

This early for it alright. Not a bad day, but some cold showers earlier this morning. She was bulling coming in this morning, but considering the meal they're on, I got a bit of a land

I've found a few here when bulling may go off the meal for the 2 or 3 feeds from the height of it, no tetany cases thankfully here in a long time touch wood but still u never know with it

RightTurnClyde

freedominacup wrote: »

What's your treatment? Lost one last year. Didn't get to her in time. Gave a bottle of cal with 50ml of mg in it iv. Half an hour earlier and I think I might have saved her.

Just a bottle under the skin, and a bottle 50:50 cal:mag into the vein.
It was pot luck I got her, all the cows had wandered home at 2 for silage so I went down early to change the tapes for the evening. Normally wouldn't be down there till 3:30-4.
Hope it was just an odd case. The rest of the herd is very content showing no signs of lack of mag.

Greengrass1

Milked out wrote: »

Do you find improved conception rates in fresh compared to frozen gg in yer own herd? U do diy?

Had 62% conception to 1st service in cows last yr and 71% in heifers.
No difference Imo from those figs if you ask me. Cows would have got fresh heifers wouldn't have because there done in afternoon/evening when tech is on his way back.
Target this yr is 70/80 for cows and heifers

Milked out

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Had 62% conception to 1st service in cows last yr and 71% in heifers.
No difference Imo from those figs if you ask me. Cows would have got fresh heifers wouldn't have because there done in afternoon/evening when tech is on his way back.
Target this yr is 70/80 for cows and heifers

Good going gg, good targets to have, the only way to reach it is to aim for it and drive on. back when we did Ai course Doreen said 90 was possible with heifers but in the 6 years of diy Ai I've only ever managed it with one group of heifers and they were an autumn group so consistent diet for breeding. Haven't gone above 70 for spring heifers

Buford T. Justice XIX

Just seen in Journal that Keenans are about to be sold. A bit surprising tbh.

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/keenan-s-looking-at-selling-reports-205208

bogman_bass

cash in at the peak

Dawggone

At last some proper spring weather. Finished nitrogen on cereals last night. Grass and crops taking off. First cut next week if the weather plays ball. We'll be chasing rain from now on...

RightTurnClyde

Dawggone wrote: »

At last some proper spring weather. Finished nitrogen on cereals last night. Grass and crops taking off. First cut next week if the weather plays ball. We'll be chasing rain from now on...

I hope some of that weather is coming this way, more rain today, and Friday coming is a washout aswell.
Got 4 tonnes of Soya hulls and another load of bales delivered yesterday to stretch grass. Patience wearing thin.

blackdog1

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

I hope some of that weather is coming this way, more rain today, and Friday coming is a washout aswell.
Got 4 tonnes of Soya hulls and another load of bales delivered yesterday to stretch grass. Patience wearing thin.

My whole crop ran out Monday so I'm on silage straw and I bought in crimp wheat at 165 a tonne. Cows seem responding very well to the crimp. It's 80% wheat 20% maize meal.

Dawggone

blackdog1 wrote: »

My whole crop ran out Monday so I'm on silage straw and I bought in crimp wheat at 165 a tonne. Cows seem responding very well to the crimp. It's 80% wheat 20% maize meal.

Wheat crimp is a much underestimated feed for dairy cows. Much better than barley crimp. That mix you are feeding is a tank buster. Introduce the wheat gradually...

Dawggone

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

I hope some of that weather is coming this way, more rain today, and Friday coming is a washout aswell.
Got 4 tonnes of Soya hulls and another load of bales delivered yesterday to stretch grass. Patience wearing thin.

Give it a fortnight...we are usually that bit ahead of you.

RightTurnClyde

Dawggone wrote: »

Give it a fortnight...we are usually that bit ahead of you.

Hope so, there is talk of things very much settling down from next Monday. Fingers crossed

blackdog1

Dawggone wrote: »

Wheat crimp is a much underestimated feed for dairy cows. Much better than barley crimp. That mix you are feeding is a tank buster. Introduce the wheat gradually...

Put 3 kg in and dropped whole crop by half to stretch it out till Monday and cows went up nearly 2 litres a cow.now out of whole crop so I'm putting in 4kg a cow might raise it more depending on yield and solids results.don't mind feeding extra as long as it pays. Yesterday was the first day in a week cows were settled outside

mahoney_j

Dawggone wrote: »

At last some proper spring weather. Finished nitrogen on cereals last night. Grass and crops taking off. First cut next week if the weather plays ball. We'll be chasing rain from now on...

Jaysus I hate u ,smashing day yesterday .today biteing cold breeze ,hailstones and showers so far and it's only 10 o clock

mahoney_j

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Hope so, there is talk of things very much settling down from next Monday. Fingers crossed

Hope u didn't read mts forecast so this am ,let's just say no improvement

whelan2

mahoney_j wrote: »

Hope u didn't read mts forecast so this am ,let's just say no improvement

Have stopped looking at the forecast. Only annoying myself

orm0nd

whelan2 wrote: »

Have stopped looking at the forecast. Only annoying myself

ditto.

look at the ground first thing the morning & then at the sky, work from there,

rangler1

whelan2 wrote: »

Have stopped looking at the forecast. Only annoying myself

last few days haven't been as bad as the forecast......TG

simx

mahoney_j wrote: »

Hope u didn't read mts forecast so this am ,let's just say no improvement

i did, nearly rather if I didn't, talking about may might bring change, its the 6th of april :mad:

Milked out

Trying to find ground for slurry again. Gonna try and keep cows out till 2morro they will have to come back in Fri by looks of things

mahoney_j

Milked out wrote: »

Trying to find ground for slurry again. Gonna try and keep cows out till 2morro they will have to come back in Fri by looks of things

Absolute pig of a day here ,hailstones ,heavy showers and biteing cold breeze .just threw out 2 wraps and off for cows .talking to vet few minutes ago and lots of cows treated for tetany this am .

kowtow

mahoney_j wrote:

Absolute pig of a day here ,hailstones ,heavy showers and biteing cold breeze .just threw out 2 wraps and off for cows .talking to vet few minutes ago and lots of cows treated for tetany this am .

Same here, dismal cold despite some sunshine.

All cows quieter than usual and fed up with bales in a mudddy sacrifice paddock. You have me paranoid now - What are the early signs of tetany?

mahoney_j

kowtow wrote: »

Same here, dismal cold despite some sunshine.

All cows quieter than usual and fed up with bales in a mudddy sacrifice paddock. You have me paranoid now - What are the early signs of tetany?

Sick looking ,droopy head turned to one side ,sunk eyes grinding teeth ,and shivering would be the obvious one .be careful with them as it affects the brain and if they have any strength they'll try and do you .cruical to act early with magnesium under skin and call the vet

Buford T. Justice XIX

Latest from Greenfields...

http://www.greenfielddairy.ie/files/uploads/4-Apr-16%20week%20ending%20greenfield%20weekly%20notes.pdf

Interestingly, growth rates at present are just about normal from the 2010-2016 average growth rates.

So hold on in there, magic day is coming:)

mf240

Think the weather is improving, the hailstones aren't all out as big as last week.

Cows here won't eat the rushes, in case they want them worse next week.

CloughCasey1

Lads had this on general chit chat but folk on here seem way more educated!!

Sent away 4 soil samples
Sample 1
Ph 7.2
N lndex low 2
P index high 4
K index low 2

Sample 2
ph 7.68
N index low 1
P index high 4
K index high 4

Sample 3
Ph 6.72
N low 2
P High 4
K very low 1

Sample 4
Ph 6.36
N very low 1
P Low 2
K Low 2

Got recommend a whole lot of 0-7-30 and 27% Can+S
Advisor was saying a bag of CAN to the acre on ground with clover would do no harm? I thought any N on clover after March would stunt its growth? What ye reckon?

RightTurnClyde

mahoney_j wrote: »

Sick looking ,droopy head turned to one side ,sunk eyes grinding teeth ,and shivering would be the obvious one .be careful with them as it affects the brain and if they have any strength they'll try and do you .cruical to act early with magnesium under skin and call the vet

... And if there's a mag issue in the herd in the very early stages you'll see the herd acting a bit giddy or cross. For example acting startled if someone comes into the field, or herd bawling ( not from hunger) when they're being driven back to the Parlour. Restless in the herd