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UFC 200 Jones vs Cormier 2

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  • #482
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    How many times has Diaz fought at 170lb? I remember he missed weight with cowboy and had a catchweight fight didnt he? Rory stungun conor 1 who else did he fight at it?


    I think hes too strong in the clinch for Conor we seen him put Conor against the cage and land some nice knee's,at 155 he might not be AS strong.


  • #483
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    While Im looking forward to the fight, I think it's actually ridiculous that there is an interim title fight on the same card as the champion is fighting.

    Bit of a joke really.

    Look at it the other way

    Its ridiculous that the Champion is fighting in another Weight class the same night there is an interim title fight for his belt.

    Conor should be defending his 145 belt or he shouldnt be fighting that night.


  • #484
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Mellor wrote: »
    Even if having it 155 or 170 isn't going to have a huge effect on the outcome. It's makes more financial sense to have it at 170 from their point of view. This fight sells silly numbers no matter what weight they have it at.
    Conor has already lost at 170. A loss here doesn't really hurt his "value" any further. It keeps his options open at 155 down the line. The 155 title run is still an option in future (after the 145 unification :o). If he losses to Nate at 155, he has one fight at 145 and nowhere to go from there.



    To clarify: You and I, and most people here grasp that this is two 155ers fighting at 170. But to the casual fan, this is 15lbs heavier and a whole new division.

    I just don't see the UFC risking giving Nate Diaz any advantage (however slight it is). At 170 or 155 if he gets battered again most people will just remember him being beaten up twice by Diaz and that hurts his value and makes the fight after that absolutely must win. I see your point though.


  • #485
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    Sometimes it gets like the comments section on Bj Penn around here. I do wonder why some people take any interest in the ufc or mma in general when all they do is complain.

    On another note July 9th is my birthday and I'm starting a "gofundme" to get me to Vegas all donations welcome ðŸ˜


  • #486
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Chris. wrote: »
    Sometimes it gets like the comments section on Bj Penn around here. I do wonder why some people take any interest in the ufc or mma in general when all they do is complain.

    On another note July 9th is my birthday and I'm starting a "gofundme" to get me to Vegas all donations welcome ðŸ˜

    It's a discussion forum not a cheerleading forum.


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  • #487
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Chris. wrote: »
    Sometimes it gets like the comments section on Bj Penn around here. I do wonder why some people take any interest in the ufc or mma in general when all they do is complain.

    On another note July 9th is my birthday and I'm starting a "gofundme" to get me to Vegas all donations welcome ðŸ˜



    Comes onto MMA forum slabbering about its users...then asks for money :rolleyes:


  • #488
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Gamebred wrote: »
    How many times has Diaz fought at 170lb? I remember he missed weight with cowboy and had a catchweight fight didnt he? Rory stungun conor 1 who else did he fight at it?


    I think hes too strong in the clinch for Conor we seen him put Conor against the cage and land some nice knee's,at 155 he might not be AS strong.

    Pretty sure he made weight vs Cowboy. Missed it vs RDA (rumoured to have a bad knee injury). Hes at his best fit and healthy at 155. Fought 4 times at 170 before the 196 fight and it was years ago. Markham and Marcus Davis.


  • #489
    evolving tipperary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    It makes perfect sense for the UFC to want it at 170 if they want to turn it into a superfight with GSP - and make it rain with money


  • #490
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Pretty sure he made weight vs Cowboy. Missed it vs RDA (rumoured to have a bad knee injury). Hes at his best fit and healthy at 155. Fought 4 times at 170 before the 196 fight and it was years ago. Markham and Marcus Davis.


    I checked there I remember he missed weight or something and it turns out he came in at 157 for the cowboy fight (not much I know) the MJ fight is a great example he put a clinic on him who was in serious form coming off a win over barboza.


  • #491
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    Davei141 wrote: »
    It's a discussion forum not a cheerleading forum.

    I didn't say anything about cheerleading. I like a bit of discussion same as the next fella but when your discussion amounts to constant whining....your just complaining not discussing.


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  • #492
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    Surely if Conor wins there will be a Diaz v McGregor III


  • #493
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    evolving tipperary wrote: »
    It makes perfect sense for the UFC to want it at 170 if they want to turn it into a superfight with GSP - and make it rain with money

    I don't believe he was gonna be fighting GSP. I don't think that was ever on the cards. (Note: this post could haunt me down the line)


  • #494
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I don't believe he was gonna be fighting GSP. I don't think that was ever on the cards. (Note: this post could haunt me down the line)


    Did you not think it was weird him being cageside in vegas?


    Ken florian said that was the plan.


  • #495
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Chris. wrote: »
    Sometimes it gets like the comments section on Bj Penn around here. I do wonder why some people take any interest in the ufc or mma in general when all they do is complain.

    On another note July 9th is my birthday and I'm starting a "gofundme" to get me to Vegas all donations welcome ðŸ˜

    The UFC and MMA promotions in general are not exempt from criticism. People will give credit where it's due but I think this card is certainly open for debate. It's been booked very strangely.

    There's some great fights there but the top end of the card is really underwhelming for the most part.


  • #496
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    Devastator wrote: »
    Comes onto MMA forum slabbering about its users...then asks for money :rolleyes:

    Definitely wasn't slabbering. Obviously the last part was tongue in cheek. I do enjoy your posts though so you weren't included in the Bj Penn catogory.


  • #497
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Chris. wrote: »
    Definitely wasn't slabbering. Obviously the last part was tongue in cheek. I do enjoy your posts though so you weren't included in the Bj Penn catogory.


    1/ I basically call anything negative slabbering
    2/ I don't even enjoy my posts, so how can you?
    3/ 10/10 in effort for sucking up but I'm still not donating


    :pac:


  • #498
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    That_Guy wrote: »
    The UFC and MMA promotions in general are not exempt from criticism. People will give credit where it's due but I think this card is certainly open for debate. It's been booked very strangely.

    There's some great fights there but the top end of the card is really underwhelming for the most part.

    Maybe it's just me being a newbie so but I'm really looking forward to it already. Not just for the Mc Gregor fight either. Cain v Browne and Aldo v Edgar would be worth staying up for on their own.


  • #499
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    Devastator wrote: »
    1/ I basically call anything negative slabbering
    2/ I don't even enjoy my posts, so how can you?
    3/ 10/10 in effort for sucking up but I'm still not donating


    :pac:

    Ah well it was worth a shot haha


  • #500
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Did you not think it was weird him being cageside in vegas?


    Ken florian said that was the plan.

    From what I heard, didn't Zahabi come out and say he was going to the RDA v Conor fight anyway coz it was history in the making and when RDA pulled he went anyway. And was he not cornering a Tristar guy on that card?


  • #501
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    From what I heard, didn't Zahabi come out and say he was going to the RDA v Conor fight anyway coz it was history in the making and when RDA pulled he went anyway. And was he not cornering a Tristar guy on that card?



    Yeah I heard him say that alright,how true it is god knows,No he wasnt cornering but taleb was fighting,


    It wouldnt surprise me if he fought Conor tbh it would be financial malpractice from everyone involved to not try get it done,him **** talking george would do nearly 2m ppv buys surely.


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  • #502
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    :eek::confused::o:pac:

    https://twitter.com/NeilMagny/status/715886461690580992



    the 4 emoticons explain my reactions to this. When your well aware its way past midday & April Fools in over but forget there are ppl in different time zones :rolleyes::pac:


  • #503
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yeah I heard him say that alright,how true it is god knows,No he wasnt cornering but taleb was fighting,


    It wouldnt surprise me if he fought Conor tbh it would be financial malpractice from everyone involved to not try get it done,him **** talking george would do nearly 2m ppv buys surely.

    That would not end well for Conor. He would get mauled.


  • #504
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    That would not end well for Conor. He would get mauled.


    He'd be taken down and subbed with ease.


  • #505
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,575 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Devastator wrote: »
    :eek::confused::o:pac:

    https://twitter.com/NeilMagny/status/715886461690580992



    the 4 emoticons explain my reactions to this. When your well aware its way past midday & April Fools in over but forget there are ppl in different time zones :rolleyes::pac:

    He's about as effective at photoshop as he is at grappling against Demian Maia!


  • #506
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Polo_Mint wrote: »
    Look at it the other way

    Its ridiculous that the Champion is fighting in another Weight class the same night there is an interim title fight for his belt.

    Conor should be defending his 145 belt or he shouldnt be fighting that night.

    How could you possibly prefer a fighter to stay at home rather than see him fight at another weight class? This line of thinking makes no sense to me.


  • #507
    evolving tipperary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    I think any of the light-weight fighters would let GSP maul them for over ten million (probably be a lot more)...

    GSP probably walks around at close to 200lbs? Been off nearly 3 years? Maybe, that head trauma has cleared up...


  • #508
    Devastator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    He's about as effective at photoshop as he is at grappling against Demian Maia!


    I couldn't say, I thought photoshop was only used by celebs to give themselves bigger tits :eek::D


  • #509
    Polo_Mint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    How could you possibly prefer a fighter to stay at home rather than see him fight at another weight class? This line of thinking makes no sense to me.

    Why shouldn't Aldo/ Edgar be fighting for the Interim 145 belt on the same night as Conor?


  • #510
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    St-Pierre is probably in the top three fighters ever, but it doesn't say a lot for his character if he's gunning to get a money fight with a natural lightweight when he balked at the prospect of the money fight with Anderson for years.


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  • #511
    Kenny Bania
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Kenny Bania


    Gamebred wrote: »
    He got lit up like light a christmas tree and turned into a panic grappler before he was about to be ko'd standing,thats factual.

    It's weird, because I was talking about round 1 only, and you countered me with a reply about round 2.


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