Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

melissak · 25-03-2016 04:55PM

bubblypop wrote: »

I can tell you now, he is not.

If he was exposing all these big baddies and he is not under police protection would that suggest the guards don't believe these stories are true if they don't think he is in danger?

25-03-2016 04:58PM

melissak wrote: »

If he was exposing all these big baddies and he is not under police protection would that suggest the guards don't believe these stories are true if they don't think he is in danger?

Gardai don't just decide someone's life is in danger. There must be a clear threat to someone. Like, they have received intelligence about the threat. There are different levels of threats.

melissak · 25-03-2016 05:04PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Gardai don't just decide someone's life is in danger. There must be a clear threat to someone. Like, they have received intelligence about the threat. There are different levels of threats.

If his books are even approaching true you would have to imagine a threat i would have thought. These people he exposes are supposedly dangerous lunatics who wouldn't take kindly to being exposed. Don't know much about the whole thing but his books seem very makey uppey. Maybe it is just the sensationalist style of writing in fairness

25-03-2016 05:07PM

melissak wrote: »

If his books are even approaching true you would have to imagine a threat i would have thought. These people he exposes are supposedly dangerous lunatics who wouldn't take kindly to being exposed. Don't know much about the whole thing but his books seem very makey uppey

He was under threat years ago, after veronica guerin was killed, but he hasn't had protection now for some years.
Yea, I don't read his books, they just seem like rehashed stuff that everyone on the street knows.
I reckon he is a great bluffer

arayess · 25-03-2016 05:18PM

sabat wrote: »

If Williams really said that he's even stupider and less informed than I thought. There's zero chance of someone being given a deal on a murder charge. How does that even make sense when murder is the most serious crime on the statute books? They give up two slam dunk life convictions to maybe have a chance of getting someone on trial for ordering it or drug smuggling? No judge or minister would sign off on that in a million years-the Regency Hotel was all over the news worldwide.

says you but it's happened already .
people involved in murder where given a deal before.
The fella who ratted on gilligan (bowden) was given immunity from Guerin's murder.

Granted complete immunity from prosecution for the murder of Guerin,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bowden_(criminal)

as for the regency "lady" that make-up was too good. we all know who it is but unless something else comes up that won't be enough for a murder charge.
plus if he is who they say he is , he'll suck it up as he'd be ratting on people close to him.

coniosumadre · 25-03-2016 07:13PM

Slightly unreleated but jeez the Independent is some rag, running that taxi going on fire as it's cover story and trying to hint it was a bomb with the 1916 commemoration going on nearby, when the taxi driver has come out already and said what happened.

Dawn Rider · 25-03-2016 11:35PM

Anybody watching utv's gangland Exposé? It's the same as anything on tv3 over the last year or so.
The interesting thing is seeing a cop at Vinnie Ryan's murder scene literally bursting out of his forensic suit. His belly is so big that the zip has given out.
Could fibers from his clothes corrupt the evidence?

He still has the shoe covers, mask and gloves on though.

BMJD · 25-03-2016 11:53PM

Dawn Rider wrote: »

The interesting thing is seeing a cop at Vinnie Ryan's murder scene literally bursting out of his forensic suit. His belly is so big that the zip has given out.
Could fibers from his clothes corrupt the evidence?

He still has the shoe covers, mask and gloves on though.

Britain's Whales is on UTV Ireland are the moment, is that the same program?

Ash.J.Williams · 26-03-2016 12:33AM

melissak wrote: »

If he was exposing all these big baddies and he is not under police protection would that suggest the guards don't believe these stories are true if they don't think he is in danger?

the gardai are too stretched at the minute to even think about williams

StringerBell · 26-03-2016 12:41AM

bubblypop wrote: »

Seriously, which side of the fued are you on?

Would have thought with the incredible hard on he has for anything to do with Gerry Hutch that would be obvious by now

Simon2015 · 26-03-2016 03:01AM

The Sunday World is claiming that the kinahan gang is going after The Viper.

Not sure why they would even try to attack The Viper because its not possible to kill The Viper:D

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/martin-the-viper-foley-told-of-threat-on-his-life-from-kinahan-mob

Supernintento Chalmers · 26-03-2016 03:45AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

the gardai are too stretched at the minute to even think about williams

They sound pretty stretched, well at least their pants are.

Dawn Rider wrote: »

The interesting thing is seeing a cop at Vinnie Ryan's murder scene literally bursting out of his forensic suit. His belly is so big that the zip has given out.
Could fibers from his clothes corrupt the evidence?

pablo128 · 26-03-2016 10:18PM

I wonder who the two brothers are who were nicked with the AK47s the other day. Apparently they are due in court very soon.

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 10:38PM

pablo128 wrote: »

I wonder who the two brothers are who were nicked with the AK47s the other day. Apparently they are due in court very soon.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/armed-gardai-deployed-as-two-men-appear-in-court-charged-in-relation-to-arms-seizure-34574916.html

Joseph Jones with an address at Ashbourne in Co Meath and Alan Donohue with an address at Rathoath in Co Meath appeared at a special sitting of Trim District Court this evening.

but....
The nephew of Gerry Monk, Derek is serving a 10-year term for the stabbing of Alan Donoghue in 2007. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/armed-gardai-deployed-as-two-men-appear-in-court-charged-in-relation-to-arms-seizure-34574916.html

?

Howjoe1 · 26-03-2016 11:02PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/armed-gardai-deployed-as-two-men-appear-in-court-charged-in-relation-to-arms-seizure-34574916.html

Joseph Jones with an address at Ashbourne in Co Meath and Alan Donohue with an address at Rathoath in Co Meath appeared at a special sitting of Trim District Court this evening.

but....
The nephew of Gerry Monk, Derek is serving a 10-year term for the stabbing of Alan Donoghue in 2007. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/armed-gardai-deployed-as-two-men-appear-in-court-charged-in-relation-to-arms-seizure-34574916.html

?

it's all very confusing.

Who are thee two lads connected to?

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:03PM

Howjoe1 wrote: »

it's all very confusing.

Who are thee two lads connected to?

I'm guessing kinhanans if the hutch lad stabbed one of them? I could be and probably am way off base.

We'll have to wait until the lads are back from thier easter night activities to find out more :pac:

HeidiHeidi · 26-03-2016 11:04PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

I'm guessing kinhanans if the hutch lad stabbed one of them? I could be and probably am way off base.

At this stage I'm guessing it depends what day of the week it is.

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:06PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

At this stage I'm guessing it depends what day of the week it is.

That's probably a more accurate way to determine at this stage :pac:

Howjoe1 · 26-03-2016 11:08PM

There all living side by side in Ratoath .

humberklog · 26-03-2016 11:10PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

I'm guessing kinhanans if the hutch lad stabbed one of them? I could be and probably am way off base.

We'll have to wait until the lads are back from thier easter night activities to find out more :pac:

I think Alan Donohue is attached to the Hutch gang as he was arrested with Del Hutch for manslaughter of Barry Maguire in '07.

tayto lover · 26-03-2016 11:13PM

Jones worked with Special Needs kids ????
Hope the emphasis is on "worked".

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:22PM

Right so these ttwo lads got sentenced for killing a lad and stabbing another on ST. Stephens day 2007.

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Derek ‘Del Boy’ Hutch will serve six years in jail for the manslaughter of 23-year-old Barry Maguire, after Mr Justice Patrick McCarthy suspended four years of his sentence to “keep light at the end of the tunnel” and ensure “the business of sentencing” was not about “locking someone up and throwing away the key”.

He also remarked that Donohue, who has 21 previous convictions, had “even less reason” for becoming involved in the incident leading to the death of Mr Maguire.

Mr Justice McCarthy said although Donohue was of a different character and the mitigation circumstances were greater in his case, he would impose on him a sentence of eight years for manslaughter and a concurrent five-year sentence for causing serious harm.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/the-monks-nephew-gets-10-years-for-killing-146470.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/two-men-charged-for-ashbourne-murder-1.748874

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/christmas-carnage-as-man-killed-in-night-of-the-knives-26341023.html

.................

I think the reports he stabbed alan o donguhe are incorrect, bad journalism, unless there's another guy murdered by that name?

The flying mouse · 26-03-2016 11:23PM

As far as i know they were from the hutch side and one of them is/was in a relationship with the unfortunate Noel duggans daughter.

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:25PM

The flying mouse wrote: »

As far as i know they were from the hutch side and one of them is/was in a relationship with the unfortunate Noel duggans daughter.

Nothing unfortunate about it if she's choosing to get involved with this crack and enjoy the proceeds

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:26PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Jones worked with Special Needs kids ????
Hope the emphasis is on "worked".

"for the last number of years" :eek:

Have you seen his record?

HeidiHeidi · 26-03-2016 11:26PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Nothing unfortunate about it if she's choosing to get involved with this crack and enjoy the proceeds

I think s/he might have meant that Noel Duggan, not his daughter, was the unfortunate one.....

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:27PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I think s/he might have meant that Noel Duggan, not his daughter, was the unfortunate one.....

If so, change she to he in my comment and it still works!

Peter Anthony · 26-03-2016 11:27PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Right so these ttwo lads got sentenced for killing a lad and stabbing another on ST. Stephens day 2007.

.............................
Derek ‘Del Boy’ Hutch will serve six years in jail for the manslaughter of 23-year-old Barry Maguire, after Mr Justice Patrick McCarthy suspended four years of his sentence to “keep light at the end of the tunnel” and ensure “the business of sentencing” was not about “locking someone up and throwing away the key”.

He also remarked that Donohue, who has 21 previous convictions, had “even less reason” for becoming involved in the incident leading to the death of Mr Maguire.

Mr Justice McCarthy said although Donohue was of a different character and the mitigation circumstances were greater in his case, he would impose on him a sentence of eight years for manslaughter and a concurrent five-year sentence for causing serious harm.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/the-monks-nephew-gets-10-years-for-killing-146470.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/two-men-charged-for-ashbourne-murder-1.748874

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/christmas-carnage-as-man-killed-in-night-of-the-knives-26341023.html

.................

I think the reports he stabbed alan o donguhe are incorrect, bad journalism, unless there's another guy murdered by that name?

Not sure what article you're referring to but humberklogs post is correct.

Howjoe1 · 26-03-2016 11:29PM

The flying mouse wrote: »

As far as i know they were from the hutch side and one of them is/was in a relationship with the unfortunate Noel duggans daughter.

sleeping with the enemy.

stoplooklisten · 26-03-2016 11:32PM

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Not sure what article you're referring to but humberklogs post is correct.

These articles, but I think they are incorrectly reporting

The nephew of Gerry Monk, Derek is serving a 10-year term for the stabbing of Alan Donoghue in 2007.http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gangland-dublin-who-are-men-involved-hutch-kinahan-families-crime-war-1542793

In 2011 he got a 10-year term with four suspended for the manslaughter of Alan Donoghue.http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/pictures-show-convicted-killer-derek-6610809

Half way down in blue box won't copy and paste http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437808/Man-shot-dead-Dublin-suspected-revenge-attack-shooting-hotel.html

Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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