Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

murpho999

Stheno wrote: »

Does no one on here actually care about it ending?

Sooner or later members of the public will once again be caught up in this.

Agree with you entirely.

People seem to trivialise these murders as something that only involves gangland figures and let them kill each other off etc but forget how innocent people can get caught up. LIke that poor plumber a few years ago in Finglas and more recently the frightened child in The Regency.

Also, this nickname thing giving criminals a sense of respect and celebrity has to stop. Seems to only happen in Ireland.

Peter Anthony

2forjoy wrote: »

could be tit-for-tat for a long time to come . wonder who will be the last man standing ?

The Ordinary Decent Criminals vs the International Drug Cartel.

The latter have too much money and power. But everybody likes an underdog.

Peter Anthony

Ally Dick wrote: »

If the cops told me that my life was under threat, the last thing I would be doing is sitting out in my car in a housing estate. I'd be headed for sunnier climes (but not the Costa Del Sol)

I doubt this guy was served with official forms or thought he would be a target. Bit like Eddie Hutch.

bajer101

That crime scene looks like The Old Mill estate where Stephen Kearney lives. If Kingsize was killed there it would link him with Kearney and by extension, George Mitchell. It really is starting to look like this is more than just a feud over Gary Hutch getting killed. It looks like it is all about a major power play for control of the whole European market. Christy Snr. goes into semi retirement and a gap is spotted.

nacho libre

Peter Anthony wrote: »

I doubt this guy was served with official forms or thought he would be a target. Bit like Eddie Hutch.

He would have been incredibly naive/foolish to think that considering how close he was to Gerry Hutch. Coupled with the knowledge that Eddie Hutch had been killed.
I just wonder who mr x really is and what is interests are. He seem to know what he was doing in putting it out that Duggan was Tallants source

The flying mouse

bajer101 wrote: »

That crime scene looks like The Old Mill estate where Stephen Kearney lives. If Kingsize was killed there it would link him with Kearney and by extension, George Mitchell. It really is starting to look like this is more than just a feud over Gary Hutch getting killed. It looks like it is all about a major power play for control of the whole European market. Christy Snr. goes into semi retirement and a gap is spotted.

So because SK lives in the same estate as the unfortunate Noel duggan it makes them linked ?? Dublin/Ireland is such a small place re criminal gangs they all know each other and most likely have done some sort of business together in the past.

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The kinahans dont control the whole European market ,never have and never will. thats a myth been put out by ridiculous Irish media here,There powerful no doubt, and probably the most powerful in Ireland but there one of many in Europe.

Coat22

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Looks like another "easy target". The man was named on that mysterious twitter account a while back as being Nicola Tallants source in the Sunday World. Thats why as I said before it's not right that names are thrown around so easy.

"Easy Target" or the 7th richest criminal in the country???

Sorry but if you live by the sword....

Coat22

Stheno wrote: »

Does no one on here actually care about it ending?

Sooner or later members of the public will once again be caught up in this.

Honestly? No. We have 4 fewer scumbags than we had at the start of last month so I think that's a good thing.

Only pity is the amount of resources being spent on Gardaí as we all pretend we give a sh*t if these people all kill each other at one anothers funerals.

murpho999

Coat22 wrote: »

Honestly? No. We have 4 fewer scumbags than we had at the start of last month so I think that's a good thing.

Only pity is the amount of resources being spent on Gardaí as we all pretend we give a sh*t if these people all kill each other at one anothers funerals.

You don't think these 'scumbags' are replaced by the people who killed them.

A society that just accepts this and adopts 'a leave them at it attitude' is wrong in my opinion.

Coat22

murpho999 wrote: »

You don't think these 'scumbags' are replaced by the people who killed them.

A society that just accepts this and adopts 'a leave them at it attitude' is wrong in my opinion.

I know they do but if we're incapable of catching these people and making them do serious time then the alternative is them living the life of luxury and laughing at the rest of us.

At least the recent feud has made life uncomfortable for them.

Frynge

murpho999 wrote: »

A society that just accepts this and adopts 'a leave them at it attitude' is wrong in my opinion.

Very true, and the problem then becomes amplified by the next generation of this scum, thinking that just rocking into a hotel or up to someone's house and riddling them with bullets is the accepted norm. Then someone goes that little bit further again and again. Before we know it it could become car bombs going off as people drive past schools.

It's one thing for an innocent bystander to be murdered by mistaken identity, but we have seen in the past where people are murdered because they happen to witness another murder. If these criminals take that attitude in their business or feud dealings then as has been said before "if you tolerate this, then you're children will be next"

Del.Monte

Last sting of a dying wasp - again. This fool http://www.irishtimes.com/news/gangland-killings-on-the-wane-mcdowell-declares-1.995650 and people like him running the country is why we still have this problem :rolleyes:

Coat22

ITs bulsh*t like this from the Indo this morning that makes my blood boil:

"Last night, sources said Duggan was an easy target who had been singled out because of his lifelong friendship with Gerry Hutch"

Who are these sources? Are the Gardaí really apologising for criminals like Duggan?

The next sentence is then

"The murdered man was a career criminal who at one time was Ireland's biggest cigarette smuggler, earning him the nickname 'Mr Kingsize'"

So he was a career criminal, one time the country's biggest cigarette smuggler, and best buddy of the man suspected of carrying out the 2 biggest every robberies in the country but he was an "easy target"

Surely he should have expected to be left alone to enjoy his retirement on his criminal proceeds while the rest of us can't afford pensions because we pay such high taxes to pay for Gardaí and make up for the lost revenue on cigarettes due to smuggling from the "easy targets" of this world?

Larsso30

Coat22 wrote: »

ITs bulsh*t like this from the Indo this morning that makes my blood boil:

"Last night, sources said Duggan was an easy target who had been singled out because of his lifelong friendship with Gerry Hutch"

Who are these sources? Are the Gardaí really apologising for criminals like Duggan?

The next sentence is then

"The murdered man was a career criminal who at one time was Ireland's biggest cigarette smuggler, earning him the nickname 'Mr Kingsize'"

So he was a career criminal, one time the country's biggest cigarette smuggler, and best buddy of the man suspected of carrying out the 2 biggest every robberies in the country but he was an "easy target"

Surely he should have expected to be left alone to enjoy his retirement on his criminal proceeds while the rest of us can't afford pensions because we pay such high taxes to pay for Gardaí and make up for the lost revenue on cigarettes due to smuggling from the "easy targets" of this world?

yes i understand your point entirly, but i think there is a significant difference between a criminal and a gangster who kills people

Mesrine65

murpho999 wrote: »

Also, this nickname thing giving criminals a sense of respect and celebrity has to stop. Seems to only happen in Ireland.

The Sunday World :rolleyes:

Coat22

Larsso30 wrote: »

yes i understand your point entirly, but i think there is a significant difference between a criminal and a gangster who kills people

But whats the difference? Is the Monk a criminal but not a gangster because he doesn't pull the trigger? How did Duggan make his empire? I'm sure he didn't get to where he was without hurting people.

This "ordinary decent criminal" stuff is the type of crap the indo and sunday world would have made money off for years.

stoplooklisten

Coat22 wrote: »

But whats the difference? Is the Monk a criminal but not a gangster because he doesn't pull the trigger? How did Duggan make his empire? I'm sure he didn't get to where he was without hurting people.

This "ordinary decent criminal" stuff is the type of crap the indo and sunday world would have made money off for years.

Yep, no one gets that big in that business being "ordinary" and "decent"

Mesrine65

Del.Monte wrote: »

Last sting of a dying wasp - again. This fool http://www.irishtimes.com/news/gangland-killings-on-the-wane-mcdowell-declares-1.995650 and people like him running the country is why we still have this problem :rolleyes:

That linked article is from 2004 :eek:

Del.Monte

Mesrine65 wrote: »

That linked article is from 2004 :eek:

That's my point.

Gamebred

Nicknames are essential to the rags when they cant publicly name these criminals.

blinding

Larsso30 wrote: »

yes i understand your point entirly, but i think there is a significant difference between a criminal and a gangster who kills people

Pretty much all of our politicians and probably a lot of business people would be in Prison if all of their activity was brought before an Honest Judge :eek:

Madd Finn

Tilly wrote: »

This man has zero to do with drugs and has now been killed cause he's good friends with the Monk.

Feuding: cherishing all the scum bags of the nation equally.

For the centenary that's in it.

harry Bailey esq

Rest in peace noely.

weldoninhio

murpho999 wrote: »

Also, this nickname thing giving criminals a sense of respect and celebrity has to stop. Seems to only happen in Ireland.

It happens worldwide.

From Alphonse "The Black Prince" Gangitano in Australia to Sammy "The Bull" Gravano in the USA and goes all the way back to Al "Scarface" Capone or further.

septictank

They mention on the news that he was originally from Cabra, Anyone know which part?

The flying mouse

septictank wrote: »

They mention on the news that he was originally from Cabra, Anyone know which part?

Attracta Road, Cabra.as far as i remember,,

Anyone old enough to remember will also remember the goings on at that time in that area around 1992/4.

DamienDarts

The flying mouse wrote: »

Attracta Road, Cabra.as far as i remember,,

Anyone old enough to remember will also remember the goings on at that time in that area around 1992/4.

Like what?

coniosumadre

Anyone still following SaorSean? What has he got to say about it? He e-mailed to say he's deleted all suspicious or fake looking twitter accounts due to getting hate mail etc.

stoplooklisten

coniosumadre wrote: »

Anyone still following SaorSean? What has he got to say about it? He e-mailed to say he's deleted all suspicious or fake looking twitter accounts due to getting hate mail etc.

i sent him a follow request but he didn't reply, he must think I'm dodge

The flying mouse

coniosumadre wrote: »

Anyone still following SaorSean? What has he got to say about it? He e-mailed to say he's deleted all suspicious or fake looking twitter accounts due to getting hate mail etc.

I still following him :-) I must be ok ha ha

he is very quite at the moment, he said that the ND murder might not be related to this feud ?? that there are people out there using it as a payback for other past actions.

So the feud starts, the hotel incident happens, vinny ryan,eddie hutch and now noel duggan get murdered, to me its to much of a coincidence and i would put them all down to the costas, if not directly but certainly gave the ok for them.


re my last post re cabra in the 90,s..a lad got a bad hiding and was found dead up the mountains,i am sure it was about hitting someones daughter or niece, it was big news then.