KATIE HOPKINS gets it right

maryishere wrote: »

along with beloved Belgium, Italy, Spain, France etc who all had foreign colonies.

However nobody can change the events of 100 / 200 years ago. Britain is and has been much more tolerant of minorities than most countries in the middle east is now. A survey showed most muslims want the Islamification of Europe. Would you be happy for your grandkids, or great-grankids, to live in such a place?

Are you aware that the huge country of Saudi Arabia does not allow one Christian church to be built?

Saudi is a family business masquerading as a country though, and businesses has all sorts of weird rules. Saudi doesn't even allow non-Muslims into Mecca.

Of course they do! It's one of the evangelistic faiths. Christians tend to want the Christianisation of everywhere, except tending to be well off they can do it through bribery with money!

And yes, Britain has been more tolerant, and continuing to be more tolerant demonstrates the values that make us different to what we see in the Middle East. If I wanted to live in a deeply repressive state, I'd move.

maryishere wrote: »

The only reason the question could not be relevant is if you do not / will not have grandkids / great grandkids.

Would you not think it is likely give Muslim immigration, family size, attitudes etc there will be sharia law in at least some European countries before the century is out ?

As it happens, no. Muslims in the political class tend to be very minor voices in the over all running of any of the states mentioned. And since Muslims populations are all <10% of most European nations I'd say the other 90% aren't too keen.

Even if Muslims made up 50% in say 100 years time, you'd need there to be a Muslim party formed (and single issue religious parties are nooooot popular) and 90% of those 50% who actually wanted strict sharia law (again based on today's demographics highly unlikely).

Of course we also shouldn't let the fact that a fair whack of sharia law being identical to biblical law cloud our judgement either...

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Any chance of intelligent dialogue?

>wants intelligent dialogue
>posts on AH

Pick one.

maryishere wrote: »

You have not answered the question. A survey showed most muslims want the Islamification of Europe. Would you be happy for your grandkids, or great-grankids, to live in such a place?

What survey? Link please.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The Fascist Left are trying to polarize any debate to be had. Even before most of the refugees arrived into Europe, the fascist left were abusing anybody that questioned it and created a polarized situation before it begun.

They are doing more harm than good. Extremists from all sides need to go away and let the adults talk about how we are going to go on in the future.

If you are going to restrict discussion, it will lead to greater and harboured resentment.

It has gotten to a stage where you are not allowed to be angry or sad at what has been going on. If somebody dies in Belgium, you are not allowed to be upset about it unless you list off a bunch of other atrocities.

It is not ISIS causing the polarization, it is not European Right Wing groups causing the polarization, it is not Muslims causing the polarization, it is the far left that are creating social upheval. This is what they want.

Katie Hopkins is giving a voice to people who have none or are living in fear of speaking out

Aparently when politicians make a mistake, the answer is to deny and double down.


As for the lunatic left, I have honestly come to believe that their position comes down to a combination of pathological altruism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_Altruism
among some combined with a cynical desire to shred the society that refuses to acknowledge them, like the worst kind of teenage petulance they believe that if they can destroy social cohesion and cultural hegemony then they can rise from the ashes by feeding on the discord it creates.
The reality is that they don't actually give a damn about refugees, they are but another useful tool to poke a stick in the eye of 'the real enemy'

Take for example the recent centre left Social Democrats grouping in the EU meeting in Paris.
Apparently according to Greek PM Tsipras, who was in attendence, the "real threat" facing Europe was not Islamic extremism but rather the rise of extreme right forces.
It never seems to occur to these fools that the rise of the far right is a direct consequence of their policies. If they wanted to halt the rise of the FN or the AfD then perhaps they need to address the legitimate concerns of citizens about their madcap policies which are driving voters into the arms of the far right out of desperation.

Will they though? It seems not....

"Following the meeting, Germany's Social Democrat leader Sigmar Gabriel said his party wouldn't be pushed to change its course even when threatened at the polls by the rise of nationalist parties. The increasingly right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party was expected to make gains in three regional elections being held Sunday which are seen as somewhat of a referendum on Germany's migration policies. Gabriel said the large majority of citizens would choose "democratic parties" and called for a strong voter turnout."

So the "democratic parties", without a hint of irony it seems are determined to ignore the demos and plough on and have the nerve to call those that demand the main stream parties actually listen to what the people are telling them, 'anti-democratic'? The cognitive dissonance is stunning....
His call for strong voter turnout seems to have backfired, turnout is up, and it looks like those disenfranchised voters are voting AfD


These loons are the worst kind of societal poison and they have used entryism to infiltrate every quango, charity, media organization, educational institution and state board that that has any influence on government to push their agenda from the shadows in a way that they could never manage democratically.
The reality is that Poland or Japan with little or no immigration form the Islamic world are unsurprisingly, not exactly hotbeds of Islamism. Basic common sense would dictate that in light of recent events a pause should be placed on immigration from the middle east. Instead to powers that be urgently want to accelerate their deconstruction of civil society and the nation state before the wheels come off their little project.

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

That is so true. Lots of words and no balls amongst our politicians.

The EU and their auld gender quotas!!

When people are nodding in agreement with the comments of not only Trump, but Katie Hopkins, it's a clear sign that the education system has failed them.

For any people outside Ireland looking through boards, I would like to apologise for these people. We're not all like that.

It's just like with Trump and Hopkins, empty vessels make the most noise.

whereas you did what exactly ?