The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

Paully D · 18-03-2016 07:30PM

Terrible, terrible news coming out of the Ravens where CB Tray Walker (4th round pick last year) has been seriously injured in a dirt-bike accident in Florida. He's in a critical condition and in a serious fight for his life.

helimachoptor · 18-03-2016 07:32PM

Paully D wrote: »

Terrible, terrible news coming out of the Ravens where CB Tray Walker (4th round pick last year) has been seriously injured in a dirt-bike accident in Florida. He's in a critical condition and in a serious fight for his life.

If I read it correctly he was on a bike with no lights in dark clothing at night while unfortunate he was pretty stupid

Realt Dearg Sec · 18-03-2016 08:49PM

helimachoptor wrote: »

If I read it correctly he was on a bike with no lights in dark clothing at night while unfortunate he was pretty stupid

A bit of sympathy would still be the right response in fairness.

jack presley · 18-03-2016 10:07PM

He's died now unfortunately

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645688/article/ravens-tray-walker-dies-from-injuries-in-dirt-bike-crash?campaign=Twitter_atn

Paully D · 18-03-2016 11:15PM

So very sad. Only 23 years of age.

Billy86 · 19-03-2016 12:47AM

Jesus that's awful, as much as you could say it was stupid to be doing what he was, you've got to feel for his friends and family right now.

helimachoptor · 19-03-2016 07:02AM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

A bit of sympathy would still be the right response in fairness.

I have a lot of sympathy, sad to hear he's passed away

Paully D · 22-03-2016 11:19PM

Rule changes for the upcoming season:

All chop blocks being banned will cause the most stir.

What do people think of the Ravens proposal re: expanding replay to include all but a handful of judgment calls? According to Harbaugh, there were 5 games determined by non-reviewable calls.

Also at the coaches breakfast, Baltimore Ravens coach John Harbaugh passionately defended his team's proposal to expand replay to include all rulings but a handful of judgment calls. No action was taken on it Tuesday.

"There were five games last year that were determined by nonreviewable calls," Harbaugh said. "[They] determined the outcome of the game. The fans don't understand that. They don't want to look at it and see the official make a mistake [that] everyone saw in real time that the league said, 'It's not reviewable. We can't fix that.' What do you mean, we can't fix it? We can't fix that when we decide not to be able to fix it. We can fix it. Just fix it."

AbusesToilets · 23-03-2016 12:01AM

Good to see no action on allowing teams to challenge all decisions made on the field /s

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 23-03-2016 09:59AM

Paully D wrote: »

Rule changes for the upcoming season:

All chop blocks being banned will cause the most stir.

What do people think of the Ravens proposal re: expanding replay to include all but a handful of judgment calls? According to Harbaugh, there were 5 games determined by non-reviewable calls.

This is a tough one, the game is already slow but with only 2 challenges I don't see why they don't make all calls reviewable. Not going to add much time to the game and they'll get it right. Harbaugh has a good point if they can fix it they should.

23-03-2016 10:22AM

I'm delighted with the chop block rule that should have been banned a long time ago

raze_them_all_ · 23-03-2016 11:31AM

I find the fact you can't throw a coaches challenge inside the 2 minute warning stupid

adrian522 · 23-03-2016 11:42AM

I don't it means you don't have to keep timeouts for a potential challenge, you can use them for clock management etc in the last two mins, in the knowledge that any dodgy decisions should get looked at in any case.

Essentially you have 2 challenges (or 3) for plays that are not touchdowns or turnovers, that don't happen in the last 2 mins of either half. It drastically reduces the prospect of being unable to challenge a play because you are out of challenges.

You should however be able t o challenge pretty much any play, particularly Pass Interference calls and calls like late hit on a QB or hit on a defenseless receiver. I could see a lot of those getting overturned.

Leslie91 · 23-03-2016 12:07PM

Was there also talk of a yellow card system for players? so after say 3 yellows (eg. for unnecessary roughness) a player misses a game or something.

adrian522 · 23-03-2016 12:14PM

There is a proposal for that (ejection for 2 unsportsmanlike penalties) but not (yet) approved. It could be approved today I think

raze_them_all_ · 23-03-2016 12:36PM

adrian522 wrote: »

There is a proposal for that (ejection for 2 unsportsmanlike penalties) but not (yet) approved. It could be approved today I think

I doubt it tbh, can't see it beinbg approved as too many players would get ejected/not be able to play hard

Shedite27 · 23-03-2016 01:07PM

If the rule (2 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties) had been implemented for the past 3 seasons it would have resulted in 2 ejections total. It's unnecessary roughness that is the common one.

That's only twice in 801 games. Greg Little (2013 v Baltimore) and Brian Orakpo (2015 V New Orleans). Nice idea but the rule isn't gonna change anything.

Knex* · 23-03-2016 01:44PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwog7F2kyNc

adrian522 · 23-03-2016 02:13PM

Shedite27 wrote: »

If the rule (2 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties) had been implemented for the past 3 seasons it would have resulted in 2 ejections total. It's unnecessary roughness that is the common one.

That's only twice in 801 games. Greg Little (2013 v Baltimore) and Brian Orakpo (2015 V New Orleans). Nice idea but the rule isn't gonna change anything.

What about the Josh Norman/OBJ incident, surely there were 2 unsportsmanlikes against OBJ?

Anyway, seems like it will be implemented on a 1 year trial as well as touchbacks going to the 25 rather than the 20.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 23-03-2016 02:21PM

adrian522 wrote: »

What about the Josh Norman/OBJ incident, surely there were 2 unsportsmanlikes against OBJ?

Anyway, seems like it will be implemented on a 1 year trial as well as touchbacks going to the 25 rather than the 20.

Further attempts to prevent the return, one of the few genuine exhilarating moments in football games.

Knex* · 23-03-2016 02:22PM

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Further attempts to prevent the return, one of the few genuine exhilarating moments in football games.

You'd imagine a lot of teams will kick it a little short and bank on stuffing before the 25 yards though?

Not in favour of it at all, tbh.

Double C · 23-03-2016 02:23PM

Hard Knocks is going to feature the LA Rams this year. Should be interesting for Gurley and Donald. And their sub par QB battle.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 23-03-2016 02:28PM

Knex. wrote: »

You'd imagine a lot of teams will kick it a little short and bank on stuffing before the 25 yards though?

Not in favour of it at all, tbh.

I think its a difficult thing to try to place a kick inside the 10 you could end up with muffed kicks that lead to big returns or giving up field position at the 30-35. My bet is that they all still kick for touchbacks.

Shedite27 · 23-03-2016 02:38PM

adrian522 wrote: »

What about the Josh Norman/OBJ incident, surely there were 2 unsportsmanlikes against OBJ?

OBJ got 3 unnecessary roughness's, but no unsportsmanlike conducts, so wouldn't have been impacted by the new rule

jack presley · 23-03-2016 02:39PM

Why do they keep calling it the red card rule? It's not like they'll have to play with 10 on defence

Realt Dearg Sec · 23-03-2016 02:56PM

jack presley wrote: »

Why do they keep calling it the red card rule? It's not like they'll have to play with 10 on defence

Soccer isn't exactly their area of expertise.

adrian522 · 23-03-2016 03:40PM

Interesting change to the IR rule. Previously you could designate 1 player as eligible to return from IR, but you had to nominate him at the time he goes on IR. From next season it seems you can reactivate 1 player but it can be anyone who is on IR.

Bad explanation but seems like a good idea to me.

adrian522 · 24-03-2016 03:18PM

A new report from the New York Times is another hit to the NFL's credibility when it comes to their concussion research. The NFL had a concussion committee conduct extensive research into concussions suffered from 1996 to 2001. The committee emphasized the completeness of the research, but the Times has found this to be significantly inaccurate.

According to the report, the NFL's data suggested the San Francisco 49ers had no concussions on their roster between 1997 and 2000. It also says the Dallas Cowboys had no concussions the entire length of the study. That seems reasonable. Steve Young and Troy Aikman definitely did not suffer any concussions during those periods. And Steve Young's career definitely did not end due to a concussion or anything like that. Glad we cleared it up!

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/sports/football/nfl-concussion-research-tobacco.html?_r=3&referer=https://t.co/DSf10OP3MP

Bad week for the NFL and their concussion department.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 24-03-2016 03:35PM

adrian522 wrote: »

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/sports/football/nfl-concussion-research-tobacco.html?_r=3&referer=https://t.co/DSf10OP3MP

Bad week for the NFL and their concussion department.

Incredible really that they could be that stupid.

Adamcp898 · 24-03-2016 04:29PM

The NFL really have been quite slow on the uptake wrt how long it would take people to figure out the difference between the actual frequency concussions were occurring and how many were actual recorded and/or any notice taken of.

But I guess they got what they wanted with the derisory NFLPA settlement so they're probably still quite chuffed.

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