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Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

    http://i.imgur.com/9FDBh.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

    That has to be one of THE most offensive things I've ever read on Boards.
    Whether or not you are trolling makes not an ounce of difference.

    You should be UTTERLY ashamed of yourself for posting that after what happened to those poor people today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    I thought you were being sarcastic, but then I browsed through your posting history. :eek:

    Islam was the biggest victim in Paris too :rolleyes:

    Haha, I just spent the last few minutes doing the same because I couldn't quite believe anyone would seriously write that either!

    I...I dunno really O.O If it's an act he's certainly kept it up a long time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭Internet Ham


    Smidge wrote: »
    That has to be one of THE most offensive things I've ever read on Boards.
    Whether or not you are trolling makes not an ounce of difference.

    You should be UTTERLY ashamed of yourself for posting that after what happened to those poor people today.

    Isn't the first time either. Check his post history. He seems to be a scumbag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

    Newsflash d!ps!it. ISIS has claimed responsibility.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,014 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    12Phase wrote: »
    I would actually think Paris and London are peobably safer now than they were a few years ago when we were living in blissful ignorance of these attackers' existence.

    There is some concern in the UK that the security services are so focused on the threat to London that other British cities may be more at risk. Could be the same in France I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I thought you were being sarcastic, but then I browsed through your posting history. :eek:

    Islam was the biggest victim in Paris too :rolleyes:

    you've got a case of sjw infestation there, difficult to get rid of once they settle in but they tend to eat each other in the end

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

    Mod: Don't post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,107 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    clsmooth wrote: »
    Article from 2005.. Welcome to phase 6.. Scarily accurate

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2005/08/the_seven_phase.php

    Missing link is Israel though, isis still haven't got the balls to go messing with them....
    Europe really is such a easy target with its open borders and the influx of "refugees" has ment isis are free to move in as many of their soldiers as they wish...
    I'd liken them to a child poking and pulling at the family dog, the dog will take it for so long until it eventually snaps and bites back, Europe/americas response to this whole mess has been laughable to say the least, they don't want to face the facts that boots on the ground and blasting isis back to the stone age in Syria was what was needed to be done they have instead facilitated the mess that's unfolded and invited them into Europe to reek havoc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,863 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

    Thanks... needed that one my bingo card
    (first on the right of the orange square: the muslims are the real victims)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    I'd urge anyone who is arguing that this has nothing to do with Islam read the following. It's a post by an Islam academic who explains why this argument is so unhelpful

    It is wrong to say "ISIS are not Muslims" and it is extremely unhelpful to separate them from the religion. My tutor actually has spoken on national TV and written articles about this exact topic. He is a Shi'a Muslim and an academic, and he argues - quite correctly I think - that if you ignore the religious roots of the group then you cannot possible grasp the problem. Because their ideology, their beliefs and their objectives, are entirely religious. They fit within a framework that is Islamic (albeit a distinct brand of fundamental Islam) and their justifications are entirely theological.

    If you disassociate them from Islam, then you have to explain their motives and actions by completely different terms. This is something you hear a lot: 'They just don't know how great Western culture is'. 'They are poor and marginalised so turn to violence.' 'They are responding to the US occupation of Iraq.' 'They are responding to European colonialism.' 'It is all about oil'. So on and so forth.

    Some of those things have elements of truth - marginalisation, poverty and retribution certainly are causes as well. Yet the biggest cause, above anything else, is their religious belief. If you are an atheist like me, you can only truly understand this by imagining how you would see the world if you were a fundamentalist Muslim.
    Once you do that, (and it requires a basic understanding of fundamental Islam that I don't have time to write here), then it all makes sense. It works the same for if you imagine you were a fundamental Christian - this might be easier to imagine.
    If I believed that the world was going to end and I had to obey the law of the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-powerful deity in order to reach eternal paradise, I'd do whatever the hell was needed to get on his good side. If that means killing people, why wouldn't I? This world is just a temporary, physical one. It's worth it for infinity in paradise. And they are non-believers anyway, they know nothing. If that is how you see the world and that is how you understand it, then these acts of violence make sense. The whole Islamic State makes sense.

    Where it gets extremely tricky and sensitive is how non-fundamentalist Muslims fit into the picture. The same for non-fundamentalist Christians, or Jews. Because the fundamentalists would argue, and in a way I agree with them, that the beliefs of these people are so far removed from the original message and meaning of the religion that they are not truly Muslims, or Christians or Jews. In order to achieve a form of Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism that is acceptable to 'Western society', you have to reshape and twist the doctrine of that religion SO MUCH that it can start to not make sense at all.

    Christianity is the perfect example. I live in Britain, which is a former Christian, now secular country. The majority of people are atheist - the Church has lost most of its power and influence. I think that this happened because the Church in this country was forced to adapt to the new ideals that came out of the Enlightenment. By doing so, over a long period of time, the doctrine of Christianity became so divorced from its scripture that it stopped making sense. As a schoolchild, I was made to go to church twice a week. The priest would tell us that Christianity preaches equality, freedom and love for everybody, including people from other faiths. But then we would go and read the Bible, and it didn't have that message at all. It told us to commit genocide on people of other faiths. It was violent, and brutal, and had so many historical problems with it that it was hard to believe. The religion didn't make logical sense any more. The result of this was a generation of people turning away from Christianity, and now you have a secular Britain.

    To a much more limited extent, the same is happening to Muslims in Western countries. Many of my friends are Muslim. Yet they don't pray 5 times a day. They don't have multiple wives. They follow our legal system, not shari'a (there are a lot of misconceptions about shari'a, but that's another story). Why? Because this is how they had to adapt their religion in order for it to fit within a Western framework.

    So many of them would read the Qur'an and the Hadith collections and realise how far removed they were from the fundamentals of the religion. Western Islam has to reinterpret and abstract the scripture so much in order to remodel the religion as acceptable to post-Enlightenment ideals, that it no longer makes sense to a lot of Muslims. Many turn away from religion entirely and become atheist. But many go the other way, and begin to follow the scripture fundamentally. These are the ones who, in the west, turn to groups like ISIS. are more likely to turn to extremism and violence (although this not always the case).
    That is why it is unhelpful to say these terrorists are not Muslim. If you do so, you cannot discover any of what I have just said. You limit your understanding, and you actually make it easier for the discourse to become 'us vs. them', rather than peaceful and loving as it should be.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    The people are the same amount dead. Why is one more worthy of panic and existential dread than the other?

    I don't know Socrates, maybe because we all fancy ourselves better drivers than bullet dodgers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    12Phase wrote: »
    I would hope the security services here have the ability to bridge the language divides and get sufficient intelligence.

    It was difficult enough to get information on our own terrorists who speak languages and have a culture that we are totally familiar with.

    There shouldn't be any language divides. No speakey de English no comea de Ireland


    And the IRA was riddled with informants and still is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Liberosis wrote: »
    I read that the explosion occurred near the aer lingus and American airlines check-in desks. These guys didn't go past security so they were no where near the plane boarding areas. No way they could get through security with bombs and guns.

    The Aer Lingus and American Air Lines check in desks are right next to each other.

    These guys shouldn't have got beyond the front door. They managed to stroll in three a breast, each with a luggage trolley full of explosives, two of them with one black glove on each hand together with an AK47. All of this during a period of highest security alert, 4 days after a missing Paris terrorist was hauled out of a bolt hole a few miles away, knowing that there were others still out there, including so called Belgian based suicide teams.

    The Belgian authorities have an awful lot to answer for.

    Dublin Airport were checking people at the door some time back.

    Oh and another thing, good quality H264 CCTV cameras, they should get some. They are not dear! It is after all a major damn airport with 23 million people passing through per year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Go Tobban


    What a fucked up situation this has become

    More bombing of the countries these extremists come from will only create new, motivated terrorists and then again you can't just sit back and let this sh1t go on without any repercussions

    Is there a solution to this madness?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    STB. wrote: »
    The Aer Lingus and American Air Lines check in desks are right next to each other.

    These guys shouldn't have got beyond the front door. They managed to stroll in three a breast, each with a luggage trolley full of explosives, two of them with one black glove on each hand together with an AK47. All of this during a period of highest security alert, 4 days after a missing Paris terrorist was hauled out of a bolt hole a few miles away, knowing that there were others still out there, including so called Belgian based suicide teams.

    The Belgian authorities have an awful lot to answer for.

    Dublin Airport were checking people at the door some time back.

    Oh and another thing, good quality H264 CCTV cameras, they should get some. They are not dear! It is after all a major damn airport with 23 million people passing through per year.

    Would you stop. There's not a security system yet devised that can stop an attack like this before it happens without a massive stroke of luck.

    There's nothing to stop some well armed person entering a public place and letting fly. If the security checks were at the building's entrance the deaths would have occurred there.

    If you want to stop these attacks seal the border and start deporting as many of them as you can legally justify.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    STB. wrote: »
    The Aer Lingus and American Air Lines check in desks are right next to each other.

    These guys shouldn't have got beyond the front door. They managed to stroll in three a breast, each with a luggage trolley full of explosives, two of them with one black glove on each hand together with an AK47. All of this during a period of highest security alert, 4 days after a missing Paris terrorist was hauled out of a bolt hole a few miles away, knowing that there were others still out there, including so called Belgian based suicide teams.

    The Belgian authorities have an awful lot to answer for.

    Dublin Airport were checking people at the door some time back.

    Oh and another thing, good quality H264 CCTV cameras, they should get some. They are not dear! It is after all a major damn airport with 23 million people passing through per year.

    Agree with you re the Belgian authorities. Even to the untrained eye that would look very suspicious. I would have thought to get to the check in desks they should have passed by numerous officers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Worth a read..
    The Seven Stages of the Base BY BILL ROGGIO | August 15, 2005 | admin@longwarjournal.org | @billroggio
    With the fourth anniversay of the hot war between al Qaeda and the West approaching, it is interesting to see how al Qaeda’s strategy and objectives have evolved since the United States committed to engaging in open warfare.

    The Word Unheard points us to an article in Spiegel Online by a Jordanian journalist Fouad Hussein, who is believed to be a reliable source of information on al Qaeda. His main source for this article on al Qaeda strategy is none other than Saif al-Adel, al Qaeda’s military commander who is currently operating from Iran.

    al Qaeda’s purported strategy can be broken down into seven “phases” which span from 2000 until 2020, at which time they believe the global Islamist Caliphate will be established and they will acheive “definitive victory.” Here are the phases, which are followed by commentary when appropriate.

    The First Phase Known as “the awakening” — this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby “awakening” Muslims. “The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaida as very successful,” writes Hussein. “The battle field was opened up and the Americans and their allies became a closer and easier target.” The terrorist network is also reported as being satisfied that its message can now be heard “everywhere.”
    al Qaeda can claim some success in the First Phase, as the organization is now the preeminent terrorist organization on the planet. The attacks of September 11 were cheered throughout the Islamic world. The global media disseminates Al Qaeda commander’s speeches. Each and every terrorist attack is followed by suspicious of al Qaeda involvement. And the US did indeed bring the war to the Islamic world in Afghanistan and Iraq, however not against Islam itself. But this came at a price, as Islamist Afghanistan and friendly Saddam-governed Iraq were lost.


    The Second Phase “Opening Eyes” is, according to Hussein’s definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein says the terrorists hope to make the western conspiracy aware of the “Islamic community.” Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement. The network is banking on recruiting young men during this period. Iraq should become the center for all global operations, with an “army” set up there and bases established in other Arabic states.
    So far, the Second Phase has been a failure. The Arab and greater Islamic Street has been essentially silent in its support of al Qaeda. The perception that al Qaeda’s cause is popular as hundreds of Islamists enter Iraq monthly is overshadowed by the tens of thousands of Islamic fighters who enter Afghanistan during the war with the Soviet Union. al Qaeda has generated new recruits, but not nearly enough to replace the experienced operators and managers that have been lost under the American onslaught in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

    Winning the Second Phase is important from a ideological standpoint. Defeat in Iraq would seriously harm the credibility of al Qaeda and weaken their mystique. They would possess a losing ideology that could not stand up to the Great Satan. Allah would have abandoned them to the privations of the infidel.

    The Third Phase This is described as “Arising and Standing Up” and should last from 2007 to 2010. “There will be a focus on Syria,” prophesies Hussein, based on what his sources told him. The fighting cadres are supposedly already prepared and some are in Iraq. Attacks on Turkey and — even more explosive — in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida’s masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization. The author also believes that countries neighboring Iraq, such as Jordan, are also in danger.
    The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. The estimate is that “the creeping loss of the regimes’ power will lead to a steady growth in strength within al-Qaida.” At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.
    The Third and Fourth Phases can essentially be condensed. The potential spread of jihad and instability to Iraq’s neighbors of Turkey, Syria, (and while not mentioned, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait) as well as Israel highlights the importance of an American victory in Iraq. Iraq, as a failed state, would provide al Qaeda a base to create instability in bordering countries, setting the stage for overthrow by the Islamists.

    It should be noted that Syria is playing a dangerous game by allowing al Qaeda to use its soil to conduct operations in Iraq. The jihadis are developing contacts, networks and obtaining recruits, which can eventually by turned against the Asad regime.

    For the record, it seems al Qaeda has already laid the groundwork for the Third and Fourth Phases. There are reports al Qaeda seeks to establish itself in Gaza to strike Israel, and Turkish vacation spots, including cruise ships are believed to have been the target of a just-foiled al Qaeda plot. Islamic countries have been the target of numerous al Qaeda attacks {see flash presentation, 2M download), and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have been in open war with al Qaeda for several years. Saudi oil facilities have been a target throughout.

    The United States will not allow another Islamic state to fall to al Qaeda’s ideologues. The lesson of September 11 serves as a reminder of what happened when Afghanistan became a sanctuary and de facto al Qaeda state.

    The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

    The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of “total confrontation.” As soon as the caliphate has been declared the “Islamic army” it will instigate the “fight between the believers and the non-believers” which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

    The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as “definitive victory.” Hussein writes that in the terrorists’ eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the “one-and-a-half million Muslims,” the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn’t last longer than two years.
    Phases Five, Six and Seven are merely the dreams of al Qaeda, as the prospects for al Qaeda’s success in phases One thru Fourth are looking grim at the moment. Despite media portrayal of defeat in Iraq, the Iraqi people are fighting the insurgency and the Anbar region is set to be reduced as an al Qaeda rear area. The jewel of al Qaeda, Afghanistan, fell almost four years ago, and al Qaeda and its Taliban allies have not come even close to retaining control. There are rumors of a serious rift between al Qaeda and the Taliban, as the Taliban believes its woes were created by closely allying themselves with Osama’s cause.

    However, in the event of the United State loses its political will and pursues a policy of isolation from the Muslim world, an inevitable showdown with al Qaeda would ensue. Open confrontation with the West, as well as the possibility of a nuclear armed Caliphate, would bring the full military might of the Western World (those who value their freedom). The current operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Horn of Africa, Southeast and Central Asia and within the borders of Western nations would be tame in comparison to what would come. The Japanese, Germans and Italians discovered in World War II the price of wakening the American military psyche.

    The West would basically have two options: (1) blitzkrieg 21st Century style – the full mobilization of its military and an accompanying sweep of the Islamic crescent, without regards for Politically Correct warfare; (2) nuclear war. Both campaigns would be designed to fully eliminate the Islamist threat, and the Muslim infrastructure, which allowed for the rise of al Qaeda’s ideology.

    Bill Roggio is a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and the Editor of The Long War Journal.

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2005/08/the_seven_phase.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    Would you stop. There's not a security system yet devised that can stop an attack like this before it happens without a massive stroke of luck.

    There's nothing to stop some well armed person entering a public place and letting fly. If the security checks were at the building's entrance the deaths would have occurred there.

    If you want to stop these attacks seal the border and start deporting as many of them as you can legally justify.

    Would I Stop, I have read some of your rants. You haven't a clue sonny. Its called containment.

    These guys wanted to get into the airport itself, breach non existant security and incident prevantion measures, ensuring untold terror, total mayhem with maximum damage. They were not interested in blowing up the front of an airport entrance.

    The security services in Belgium did not communicate with each other.

    You can talk all you want about deportation and sealing of borders, but that boat has sailed. These guys are in the system and some are not even on the radar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭Liberosis


    STB. wrote: »
    The Aer Lingus and American Air Lines check in desks are right next to each other.

    These guys shouldn't have got beyond the front door. They managed to stroll in three a breast, each with a luggage trolley full of explosives, two of them with one black glove on each hand together with an AK47. All of this during a period of highest security alert, 4 days after a missing Paris terrorist was hauled out of a bolt hole a few miles away, knowing that there were others still out there, including so called Belgian based suicide teams.

    The Belgian authorities have an awful lot to answer for.

    Dublin Airport were checking people at the door some time back.

    Oh and another thing, good quality H264 CCTV cameras, they should get some. They are not dear! It is after all a major damn airport with 23 million people passing through per year.

    Security checks at the doors risk queues of people forming. A lot of people at one confined location would have increased the death toll dramatically.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,048 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Hi Belgium,

    I don't know you very well, having only been once. I believe you make good beer, chocolate and are apparently good at that football thing. Time to revisit you.

    Hi ISIS,

    U ok hun?

    We'll outlast you pricks any day of the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    inforfun wrote: »
    Thanks... needed that one my bingo card
    (first on the right of the orange square: the muslims are the real victims)

    ...Can you translate the rest of that? I kinda want one too :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭tharmor


    Few things which can be considered...

    1) Allow only travellers inside airport.
    2) Have security checks and scanners at entrance.

    Happens in most countries outside europe...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭12Phase


    To be perfectly honest, you've no idea if or how many attacks the Belgian authorities may have thwarted over the last few months and years.

    I think it's very easy to be highly critical from behind the comfort of a keyboard nearly 1000 km away.

    I'm not aware of *ANY* airport in Europe that pre-screens passengers before they enter the building. It's not standard practice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭deseil


    The Raptor wrote: »
    It is worrying. The explosions also happened beside the departures for Dublin, did I read that correctly. I don't know if the plane left before the explosions or if it was due to leave after but what would happen if they boarded the flight to Dublin with the intention of an attack on Dublin.

    The USA stepped up their security and they aren't even in Europe. But Ireland, such a we're fine attitude.

    I think they could easily target Dublin if we're so laid back.
    Brussels was on high alert security wise and they still managed a double attack. The fact these people are willing to die for the cause means its impossible to twart all of their attacks. What do you suggest the government do?
    Bag and body searches of everyone using public transport all day everyday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭RiseToMe


    tharmor wrote: »
    Few things which can be considered...

    1) Allow only travellers inside airport.
    2) Have security checks and scanners at entrance.

    Happens in most countries outside europe...


    The problem with that is that youll have people queuing for that screening, so they will just detonate a bomb there instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Deathwish4


    In the wake of recent atrocities, can the Irish Government please stop giving out Citizenship like confetti.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    12Phase wrote: »
    To be perfectly honest, you've no idea if or how many attacks the Belgian authorities may have thwarted over the last few months and years.

    I think it's very easy to be highly critical from behind the comfort of a keyboard nearly 1000 km away.

    I'm not aware of *ANY* airport in Europe that pre-screens passengers before they enter the building. It's not standard practice.

    No I don't. But neither do you. All we do know is that a few days after capturing one of the ring leaders of the Paris attacks, and during a period of heightened security alert, that a number of people managed to waltz into a major airport with an assualt rifle, suicide belts, and suitcases full of explosives. The CCTV pictures that they have released could be anyone and the footage that you would see on Crimeline would put it to shame.

    Brussels has a population of 200k and is probably now the the jihadi epicentre of Europe. Belgium already has a split society with Dutch and French speaking individuals. Molenbeek is a very poor area in the western part of Brussels where many of these lunatics hang out.

    They have come and gone under the noses of the security services with complete impunity, hiding as it where, in plain sight.

    Pre-screening has existed at Dublin Airport in the past.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 794 ✭✭✭TheHillOfDoom


    If you screen airports, they will target underground commuters, hospitals or churches. They don't have morals. Anywhere and everywhere is fair game. The more victims the better.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    Go Tobban wrote: »
    What a fucked up situation this has become

    More bombing of the countries these extremists come from will only create new, motivated terrorists and then again you can't just sit back and let this sh1t go on without any repercussions

    Is there a solution to this madness?

    Yeah, because they were having so much trouble recruiting up to now.


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