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screamer · 22-03-2016 08:48PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

His comment does have relevance, because it offers perspective. As horrible as what happened today was, 34 people died and now some are losing the run of themselves and going on like the sky is falling in. The muslims are out to get us and the whole of Europe is about to fall to them. Sure I'd be afraid to travel to the continent now. Ireland will be next, we're all at risk. We'd one poster earlier advocating that practising Islam should be made a capital offense.

The concept of blaming the perpetrators is immediately abandoned; we should abandon our humanity instead, blame all the brown people, build fences to keep the refugees out, bomb the tar out of the middle east.

By contrast, around 70 people will have died on Europe's roads today alone, and the same will happen every day this year. We're not blaming everyone who gets behind the wheel, or panicking whenever we step outside the door. It's almost like people are being completely irrational.

70 people died on the roads in Europe today and 34 people were MURDERED in Belgium is that clear enough for you????

gw80 · 22-03-2016 08:48PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

His comment does have relevance, because it offers perspective. As horrible as what happened today was, 34 people died and now some are losing the run of themselves and going on like the sky is falling in. The muslims are out to get us and the whole of Europe is about to fall to them. Sure I'd be afraid to travel to the continent now. Ireland will be next, we're all at risk. We'd one poster earlier advocating that practising Islam should be made a capital offense.

The concept of blaming the perpetrators is immediately abandoned; we should abandon our humanity instead, blame all the brown people, build fences to keep the refugees out, bomb the tar out of the middle east.

Bye contrast, around 70 people will have died on Europe's roads today alone, and the same will happen every day this year. We're not blaming everyone who gets behind the wheel, or panicking whenever we step outside the door. It's almost like people are being completely irrational.

Yea, what happened today is the same as road accidents,
Jesus wept

walshyn93 · 22-03-2016 08:49PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

The Saudis also have over $3 trillion invested in the US Stock Market. Any attack on Saudi, they'd pull that money out and collapse the US economy overnight.

You think divesting would cause long term economic damage?

The stocks are worth what they're worth. The moment the market finds out the drop in price had nothing to do with the actual value they'd be bought back up.

Maybe some temporary measures would need to be taken to reassure the market, but it wouldn't be catastrophic.

Internet Ham · 22-03-2016 08:49PM

screamer wrote: »

70 people died on the roads in Europe today and 34 people were MURDERED in Belgium is that clear enough for you????

Couldn't have said it better myself.

walshyn93 · 22-03-2016 08:51PM

thattequilagirl wrote: »

Given the panic it would cause, I think it would be irresponsible to raise the threat level if there is no intelligence suggesting we should do so. The people making these decisions are much better informed than you or I.

What are you on about man!?

TheHillOfDoom · 22-03-2016 08:53PM

Liberosis wrote: »

That muppet Donald Trump on twitter...

@realDonaldTrump
My heart & prayers go out to all of the victims of the terrible #Brussels tragedy. This madness must be stopped, and I will stop it

What ya gonna do Donald?

Ulysses Gaze · 22-03-2016 08:54PM

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

What ya gonna do Donald?

Trump sounds more and more like a WWE Wrestler from the 1980's than a politician.

long range shooter · 22-03-2016 08:55PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Is that supposed to be a counter argument? Please actually make an argument rather than stating facts without any context.

Are you butthurt because of it?

walshyn93 · 22-03-2016 08:55PM

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

What ya gonna do Donald?

Keeping a woman who never heard of a foreign intervention she didn't like out of the White House would be a great start.

dav3 · 22-03-2016 08:55PM

screamer wrote: »

70 people died on the roads in Europe today and 34 people were MURDERED in Belgium is that clear enough for you????

Think of it this way, we have limited resources in this country. Would you use 95% of your resources to save 50 lives and on something which may never happen or 20% of your resources to prevent road fatalities freeing up a further 80% of your resources to save even more lives?

briany · 22-03-2016 08:55PM

TheHillOfDoom wrote: »

What ya gonna do Donald?

He's going to make his wall ten foot taller.

walshyn93 · 22-03-2016 08:56PM

dav3 wrote: »

Think of it this way, we have limited resources in this country. Would you use 95% of your resources to save 50 lives and on something which may never happen or 20% of your resources to prevent road fatalities freeing up a further 80% of your resources to save even more lives?

Maybe if we pave the roads with cash people won't have accidents.

People who use this line of argument need to realise that there are consequence of terrorism that go beyond the body count.

12Phase · 22-03-2016 08:56PM

I would hope the security services here have the ability to bridge the language divides and get sufficient intelligence.

It was difficult enough to get information on our own terrorists who speak languages and have a culture that we are totally familiar with.

Maximus Alexander · 22-03-2016 08:57PM

screamer wrote: »

70 people died on the roads in Europe today and 34 people were MURDERED in Belgium is that clear enough for you????

gw80 wrote: »

Yea, what happened today is the same as road accidents,
Jesus wept

The people are the same amount dead. Why is one more worthy of panic and existential dread than the other?

Ulysses Gaze · 22-03-2016 08:59PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

The people are the same amount dead. Why is one more worthy of panic and existential dread than the other?

Intent perhaps?

The attacks today were intended to kill.

Most people involved in road accidents never set out with an intention to kill.

Smidge · 22-03-2016 09:01PM

Could there be another attack on Paris in the very near future?
I have someone travelling to there on a school trip very soon so am getting a tad concerned

screamer · 22-03-2016 09:01PM

dav3 wrote: »

Think of it this way, we have limited resources in this country. Would you use 95% of your resources to save 50 lives and on something which may never happen or 20% of your resources to prevent road fatalities freeing up a further 80% of your resources to save even more lives?

Not a valid arguement sorry but all lives matter just because it's easier to save some than others doesn't matter. great that you can justify lives in terms of resources, I can't.

Polo_Mint · 22-03-2016 09:02PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

The people are the same amount dead. Why is one more worthy of panic and existential dread than the other?

Because we are on the "List"

inforfun · 22-03-2016 09:05PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

The people are the same amount dead. Why is one more worthy of panic and existential dread than the other?

Because people killed on the roads, usually do that because of an accident.

Bunch of ***** blowing themselves up in public during rush houris slightly different, dont you think?

_oveless_ · 22-03-2016 09:05PM

once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

Samaris · 22-03-2016 09:07PM

Smidge wrote: »

Could there be another attack on Paris in the very near future?
I have someone travelling to there on a school trip very soon so am getting a tad concerned

Honestly, no-one knows. On balance, -probably- not. These things take time and effort to plan, and there's usually a few months between "big" attacks at the very least. Probably also because the security forces will be on uber high alert now (not that they weren't on fairly high alert anyway) and it's not unlikely they squash far more plots than actually come to fruition.

Realistically, there would be a higher chance of the airplane or bus crashing (sorry! Not intending to ADD things to worry about, just trying to point out probabilities!) than any one given person or group getting caught up in something like this.

dav3 · 22-03-2016 09:07PM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Maybe if we pave the roads with cash people won't have accidents.

People who use this line of argument need to realise that there are consequence of terrorism that go beyond the body count.

The threat of terrorism is very small. Although, I suppose it depends on what your definition of terrorism is. Only a few weeks ago we had a bunch of lads running through a hotel with kalashnikovs shooting the place up.

Internet Ham · 22-03-2016 09:08PM

_oveless_ wrote: »

once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

Not the first time I have said this today. It is always muslims. When catholics, protestants, sikhs or mormons start blowing up civilian targets with little reason or purpose you might have a leg to stand on. Until then, pull the other one.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-03-2016 09:08PM

_oveless_ wrote: »

once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

No the biggest victims of today's events are the 30 odd people lying the mortuary tonight. Get real please.

Samaris · 22-03-2016 09:09PM

_oveless_ wrote: »

once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

As a bleeding heart, pinkie probably Commie liberal, I have to say -y'wha?- and make a really good effort to clip you around the ear through the ether.

Congrats on probably the single most self-defeating and facepalmworthy post so far. I wish I could say I hope you're trolling, but I'm unsure which option would depress me more.

12Phase · 22-03-2016 09:09PM

French intelligence is currently very much on the ball and they're using extreme emergency powers to smash cells.

I would actually think Paris and London are peobably safer now than they were a few years ago when we were living in blissful ignorance of these attackers' existence.

questionmark? · 22-03-2016 09:09PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Europeans should be incredibly proud. Literally millions of Syrians are safe from danger because of our refugee policies. For that more than 200 Europeans have died.

Had we closed the borders years ago we could have prevented Paris and Brussels ever happening, but only at massive human cost.

Are you taken the piss or are you serious with that post?

screamer · 22-03-2016 09:10PM

_oveless_ wrote: »

once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

Will you get real a hashtag and a religious belief is a bigger victim than a someone who lies dead tonight?????? Hashtag getsomecopon

Smidge · 22-03-2016 09:10PM

Samaris wrote: »

Honestly, no-one knows. On balance, -probably- not. These things take time and effort to plan, and there's usually a few months between "big" attacks at the very least. Probably also because the security forces will be on uber high alert now (not that they weren't on fairly high alert anyway) and it's not unlikely they squash far more plots than actually come to fruition.

Realistically, there would be a higher chance of the airplane or bus crashing (sorry! Not intending to ADD things to worry about, just trying to point out probabilities!) than any one given person or group getting caught up in something like this.

Its a truly awful situation for everyone involved there today. Just ordinary people, doing ordinary things and in the blink of a madman's eye, everything is destroyed.
Desperately sad altogether.

stoplooklisten · 22-03-2016 09:12PM

_oveless_ wrote: »

once again, the biggest victim of these unfortunate events is Islam and Muslims in general, there are already people trying to say that these were Muslim terrorists we need to go after these islamophobes in many ways these people and their #stopislam hashtag is worse than what has happened today.

I thought you were being sarcastic, but then I browsed through your posting history. :eek:

Islam was the biggest victim in Paris too :rolleyes:

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