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Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    And how would you push those people to integrate with us when they clearly don't want to?

    I agree with you, thats why I say its never gonna happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    sup_dude wrote: »
    It would be more like walking into surgery with an axe sticking in your head, and the doctor declaring it was Bob from down the road, without even speaking to the man with the axe in his head first.

    Does Bob have a very strong history of burying axes into peoples heads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Places with no Muslim population are safe. And they are not madmen, they live like that.

    Do you really believe that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    screamer wrote: »
    Striking right at the heart of the EU......
    Remember people one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and this will never end. One crazy who will take their own life for the cause they believe in is the most deadly type. We must protect ourselves from such people otherwise more of this will happen and more people will die. Like it or not there are some very tough decisions that need to be made pc ness be damned.

    Evident by the fact that the police in Brussels had a group of people throwing stuff at them earlier, and shouting abuse.

    The support for the extremists goes beyond those willing to take up arms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Does Bob have a very strong history of burying axes into peoples heads?


    Yes, but Alan has been known to do it too. And John has a vendetta against Bobs family and likes to use any excuse to further his case against them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Pat Kenny on NT comparing this to IRA in the past - what a tosser


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Yes, but Alan has been known to do it too. And John has a vendetta against Bobs family and likes to use any excuse to further his case against them.

    It was Bob, chasing anybody else for the crime is wasting time and resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Pat Kenny on NT comparing this to IRA in the past - what a tosser

    And in the same show he will probably be praising those involved in the 1916 Rising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Impossible when the Schengen Zone is being destroyed cos a woman in Germany saw a sad picture and decided to unilaterally invite the third world to Europe.

    You do know that "Third World" is no longer used?

    Also, not all immigrants are terrorists and we should keep our values of helping those in trouble.

    Think of all the Irish who emigrated around the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Impossible when the Schengen Zone is being destroyed cos a woman in Germany saw a sad picture and decided to unilaterally invite the third world to Europe.

    That's a Trumpesque oversimplification of the many issues involved.

    You want to ban anybody from the third world from entering Europe?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Pat Kenny on NT comparing this to IRA in the past - what a tosser

    In fairness what's the difference only their beliefs.

    Sick of terrorism whether it's the IRA loyalists isis whatever.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Places with no Muslim population are safe. And they are not madmen, they live like that.
    Slovakia has no muslims, no mosques and there have been several shootings in their capital and around the country by white people inc. in middle of the day in shopping centers... Oh and the last time they had pride day the neo nazis were roaming around the city center beating up anyone who they felt "looked gay" (I have friends from Slovakia; it's not the paradise on earth people appear to think it is).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    seamus wrote: »
    "People". We're all human beings at the end of the day. Isolating us into separate groups and sticking labels on everyone is in fact exactly what causes terrorism.

    So religion has nothing to do with this ?

    The Muslims people who came over in the 70's isolated themself from day one. Ad a few decades of failed politics addressing this issue and voila

    This is caused by failed multiculturalism added with with a mix of religious extremists ... It's the perfect breeding ground


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    murpho999 wrote: »
    You do know that "Third World" is no longer used?

    Also, not all immigrants are terrorists and we should keep our values of helping those in trouble.

    Think of all the Irish who emigrated around the world.

    It is too much of a risk now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Knex. wrote: »
    Evident by the fact that the police in Brussels had a group of people throwing stuff at them earlier, and shouting abuse.

    The support for the extremists goes beyond those willing to take up arms.

    Exactly look how the community in molenbeek his abdeslam. The dog in the street knew he was there and some even want in camera to say they didn't believe he was involved in the Paris attacks.......
    Thinking that dealing with terrorists is about targeting them is naieve at best. They need to go in and root out the whole lot friends family anyone who helps these terrorists and throw them out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    dav3 wrote: »
    That's a Trumpesque oversimplification of the many issues involved.

    You want to ban anybody from the third world from entering Europe?

    With the current lack of vetting and general lack of knowledge of who is coming over then yes, I am very much open to the idea of closing the door to Europe for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    It was Bob, chasing anybody else for the crime is wasting time and resources.


    Condemning the wrong person is a waste of time and resources. Which is why we gather evidence in the first place...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Straight Edge Punk


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Condemning the wrong person is a waste of time and resources. Which is why we gather evidence in the first place...

    Gathering evidence in a case like this is a waste of time which allows those responsible to evade capture. Go in, get who is responsible and get your evidence afterwards is the way to work in a case like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,744 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Terrorism is the ultimate proof that humans are incredibly stupid creatures.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    murpho999 wrote: »
    You do know that "Third World" is no longer used?

    Also, not all immigrants are terrorists and we should keep our values of helping those in trouble.

    Think of all the Irish who emigrated around the world.

    Last I checked most Irish emigrated to work, and not to form Irish ghettos abroad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭BlibBlab


    seamus wrote: »
    Economics. It's always economics. Irish people didn't go to America because they wanted to live by American values, they went because they needed money. Simple as that.

    But they did live and conform to American values. They didn't start blowing up innocents because they hated the new place they were living or it wasn't enough like dear old Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    This is unbelievable. time to get the big guns out and flatten these ****ers, back tot he stone age from which they came.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    dav3 wrote: »
    RIP to all those innocent people who lost their lives.

    It's quite telling that the first thing the knuckle draggers do is have a go at religion or immigrants before showing their respect.

    Really showing yourselves up there boys and girls.

    Of course the ones that once again highlight where these terrorists come from and what they believe in are the knuckle draggers.

    Oh the irony.

    No wonder Europe is going down the tubes and no wonder the Far Right is on the rise.
    People are going to turn more and more to the right because they are the only ones listening to their concerns and actually discussing the fact that a large chunk of people belonging to a certain religion is incompatible with Western values.

    The real irony is that Western freedoms are not going to be protected by the liberals and the left, the very ones that help win those freedoms in the first place. :mad:

    You want a whole religion banned and followers killed because of a few tw@ts? This makes you as bad as them.

    Again deflection and distortion of real facts.
    How long was the Paris attacked at large in Molenbeek ?
    These people do not operate in a vacuum.
    There is a lot of tacit support for these guys.

    Look at numbers going off to fight with ISIS and look at numbers supporting radical islam.
    Look at numbers in these countries demanding sharia law and demanding they be allowed operate outside the normal rules of law and order within the country.

    It aint just a few nutjobs or twats as you might like us to believe.
    Unfortunately this is mainly homegrown.

    Ghettoizing neighbourhoods was the worst thing to do, proper integration is needed - but this is a pipe dream and will never happen.

    Ahh FFS more of the usual hogwash.
    You can't force people to integrate if they do not want to integrate.

    If some people persist in keeping their backwards misogynist homophobic insular views and beliefs, how do you force them to integrate into secular non discriminatory societies.

    As for attacks...
    I have long thought that an attack inside an airport would be a fairly soft target and I am surprised the only other time it was tried was in Glasgow.
    And btw what was the religion of the attackers in Glasgow again?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    timmyntc wrote: »
    Last I checked most Irish emigrated to work, and not to form Irish ghettos abroad.
    Feel free to find Muslims who have moved (not fled) to Europe and said they wanted to set up a ghetto. Heck; find anyone who's aiming to set up a ghetto by coming here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    With the current lack of vetting and general lack of knowledge of who is coming over then yes, I am very much open to the idea of closing the door to Europe for now.

    It's not as simple as just 'closing a door' though is it.

    Who do we close the door to?

    Every country outside Europe? People of certain religions? Certain skin colour?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Gathering evidence in a case like this is a waste of time which allows those responsible to evade capture. Go in, get who is responsible and get your evidence afterwards is the way to work in a case like this.


    Gathering evidence is all the more important in a case like this, due to the reactions like the ones on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    murpho999 wrote: »
    You do know that "Third World" is no longer used?

    Also, not all immigrants are terrorists and we should keep our values of helping those in trouble.

    Think of all the Irish who emigrated around the world.

    Who decided this? More pc bs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭5star02707


    horrible thing, few of my friends were just there weeks ago. travelling is one thing i love but with all these events it's so hard to take them journeys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    Nody wrote: »
    Feel free to find Muslims who have moved (not fled) to Europe and said they wanted to set up a ghetto. Heck; find anyone who's aiming to set up a ghetto by coming here...

    I just have to look out my window, I live in the European jihadi belt, don't tell me there's no gettos


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Gathering evidence is all the more important in a case like this, due to the reactions like the ones on this thread.

    and because you don't want to let people like this free because you slip up and don't follow procedure exactly right.


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