Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

We don't integrate (in my experience) in their culture but respect it, we have no choice.

The targets so far are all ex colonial countries which have 2nd and 3rd generations from MENA.How do you think these cities all ended up with 2nd and 3rd generation populations? The turmoil inflicted on their and their ancestors country of origin is one of the many causes of this but to say so is to branded a left loon or sympathizer.

The above is not an issue in Ireland.

That's part of the problem now the solution is to stem the flow of these people.

OldRio wrote: »

Unfortunately Maria it isn't to do with 'finding a place in society'. It is to do with changing society to what is acceptable to them. Only them. We have to change. That is what their aim is.

I don't know about you, but here in Italy we already have yielded to their requests more than once.
A bit at the time and they will have us to do what they wish.

12Phase wrote: »

Disgruntled youth is only half the story. There's a whole convolution of factors going on. It's not just one simple problem.

Not every jihadi is a secondary school dropout. There have been high performing university students, graduates etc etc. It's an over simplification to just write the whole thing off as a social problem caused by lack of opportunity.

Honestly, I'm not sure how you'll ever resolve this as I think you'll now see a spike in support for very extreme right wing parties in Belgium and many other continental countries.

That's very unlikely to do anything other than drive even more divisions and more social exclusion and more extremism as invariably they go about targeting their outrage at all the wrong people.

Sadly, yeah this does have an impact on day to day life.
My colleagues have just cancelled multiple trips to Belgium this week and it's likely we won't be going near the place until this all settles out and we know the place is safe.

This raises a further question, wheres safe now?

Confirmation by the Belgian prosecutor that it was suicide attacks.

murpho999 wrote: »

Well the police are all armed for a start,

Anyhow how would armed police stop people walking into a building and blowing themselves up?

Good point, I guess I don't think about it and revolvers are easy to miss.

Electronic doors, carded entry. The EP have metal detectors. Istanbul Airport has a metal detector before you even get in the door, I would imagine this will start becoming a feature here soon. Inconvenient, but something we'll need to get used to.

For those saying Europe needs to get it's s**t together, we are Europe. Sorry that you're rethinking your weekend in Paris or Ghent at the moment but frankly both France and Belgium have bigger problems, people have died. This has nothing to do with refugees, the Islamic community here is generational, widespread and some of their youth are disenfranchised. If you don't or haven't lived here you can't even begin to understand. Immigration to Ireland is relatively new and the communities are different. The mistakes that have been made in mainland Europe can be learned from, and should be. As regards intelligence on attack planning, this is terrorism, guerrilla warfare. The whole point is that it's clandestine and underground. It's not easy to get under control.

Striking right at the heart of the EU......
Remember people one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and this will never end. One crazy who will take their own life for the cause they believe in is the most deadly type. We must protect ourselves from such people otherwise more of this will happen and more people will die. Like it or not there are some very tough decisions that need to be made pc ness be damned.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

and is exactly the response the terrorists want.

Can you prove that?

It seems to me that the status quo.... that being an overly compliant, supplicant Europe is not doing anyone any favours.

I think the cognitive dissonance of 'lets be nice & pretend there is nothing awry here' is exactly what militant islam wants....
They find ready allies & plenty of succour from our liberal betters & officialdom.


The status quo is failing.

Del.Monte wrote:

No, it's far better to adopt the pc/head-in-sand/hand wringing mentality of many posters here.

Do tell, what is PC about waiting to get all the facts before going on an emotion fueled rant?
Jumping straight in and not waiting to see who it actually was isn't sticking your head in the sand? Whinging about immigration without proof that it was immigration that caused it isn't hand wringing?

Straight Edge Punk wrote:

What is the point in pretending it was someone else? I know who it was, you know who it was, the dog on the street knows who it was and to think otherwise is insane.

Because that's how the justice works. And be thankful it does.

Jan Laco wrote:

If you walked into a doctor's surgery with an axe stuck in your skull, would you expect him to take a blood test and wait for 'all other reasons' you might have a headache?

It would be more like walking into surgery with an axe sticking in your head, and the doctor declaring it was Bob from down the road, without even speaking to the man with the axe in his head first.

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Horrific.....you can't help but wonder where will be hit next. Is anywhere safe from these madmen?
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Places with no Muslim population are safe. And they are not madmen, they live like that.