The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

raze_them_all_ · 09-01-2016 10:38PM

Billy86 wrote: »

As a Packers fan and as much as I love the guy, I'm still very suspicious of Clay Matthews on that front.

same him and watt just seem...too big

j8wk2feszrnpao · 09-01-2016 10:40PM

The feeling towards Rice ("so what if he cheated, he was the greatest") is the same way Bill/Tom will be regarded in 10yrs when they are both out of the game and not winning so many games ever year.

If Rice was playing now, and teams were losing to SF, and then the scandal broke; he and SF would be called cheats and calls to be stripped of their SB wins (maybe even a 4 game suspension for Montana for being generally aware :P ).

Social media ups all this stuff, but it fades in time. Every team has done something, the greats are just great either way imo.

frostie500 · 09-01-2016 10:51PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Still think passing on Carr for a G when they were so badly in need at QB was poor though; Carr even had some top 10 pick talk at some stages if I recall. Maybe they really liked Bridgewater and sh@t the bed when the Vikings traded up to take him one pick before them at #32. That's my guess, anyway.

Picking Carr would have been a major risk for Houston because of what happened with his brother. Derek looks like being a really good QB but if he went to the Texans and struggled as a rookie it'd be a big ask for fans to show support to the draft choice. If he had anyother name i'd view it differently though

Billy86 · 09-01-2016 10:54PM

frostie500 wrote: »

Picking Carr would have been a major risk for Houston because of what happened with his brother. Derek looks like being a really good QB but if he went to the Texans and struggled as a rookie it'd be a big ask for fans to show support to the draft choice. If he had anyother name i'd view it differently though

Decent point, actually. Fickle (especially as it was less David's fault than the coaches and worst line in league history's), but still true.

frostie500 · 09-01-2016 11:04PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Decent point, actually. Fickle (especially as it was less David's fault than the coaches and worst line in league history's), but still true.

Definitely fickle because David was a legit No 1 pick based on his college performances but coming to an expansion team and having to take all those hits knocked his confidence and left him a shell of the player he could have been. We saw flashes but not the extent of what he could have achieved and thats something that hurt Derek in Houston. It's the same reason why the brother of a top player has to show he isn't good enough rather than that he is good enough to play

Pyjamarama · 09-01-2016 11:08PM

Clowney going home isn't the worst thing. It shows a desire to play. He'll learn from this and when on the field he's been great.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 09-01-2016 11:24PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

Clowney going home isn't the worst thing. It shows a desire to play. He'll learn from this and when on the field he's been great.

Might not be the worst, but it's not good.
Should have stood with his team mates.

Itssoeasy · 09-01-2016 11:34PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Might not be the worst, but it's not good.
Should have stood with his team mates.

If he stayed it would have stood to him as it showed he could handle disapointment. He didn't handle it well.

Morrison J · 10-01-2016 01:04AM

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Clowney has known since after practice Wednesday he wasn't playing. Left stadium to take tickets to family.

Realt Dearg Sec · 10-01-2016 01:05AM

Morrison J wrote: »

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Clowney has known since after practice Wednesday he wasn't playing. Left stadium to take tickets to family.

Aww. I preferred the media bullsh1t version I bought hook line and sinker. So I'm sticking with that. Character issues. Bust. Destroyed the spirit of the locker room.

Hazys · 10-01-2016 09:12PM

If you didn't think Vontae Burfict wasn't a big enough cnut...i raise you this: https://vine.co/v/iMuO9BaxgQT

Throwing an unnecessary knee into Big Ben's shoulder.

SameOleJay · 10-01-2016 09:17PM

Don't know what you do if your the Bengals.

Guys is a bona fide POS but holds the whole D together.

Pyjamarama · 10-01-2016 09:58PM

SameOleJay wrote: »

Don't know what you do if your the Bengals.

Guys is a bona fide POS but holds the whole D together.

You put up with him. The Ravens did with Ray Lewis for years. Burfict just needs to make a name for himself as a tough but not dirty player by keeping his nose clean for a year or two then he can do what he wants. Just like all the other guys who play like he does did.

10-01-2016 10:12PM

Pyjamarama wrote: »

You put up with him. The Ravens did with Ray Lewis for years. Burfict just needs to make a name for himself as a tough but not dirty player by keeping his nose clean for a year or two then he can do what he wants. Just like all the other guys who play like he does did.

He won't he has never even pretended to regret being an ass

JaMarcusHustle · 11-01-2016 09:23AM

Marvin Lewis' hands are ties anyway. Burfict has become a leader to other idiots like Pacman on that defence. If they get rid of him, there will be a revolt.

Granted, a revolt of morons, but a revolt all the same.

Cincy have never shied away from overlooking character concerns to get on-field production. This goes back to the days of TO and Tank Johnson.

Though admittedly, this is the first time I can remember character concerns resulting in such an obvious, high profile, on-field cost to the team.

BizzyC · 11-01-2016 12:38PM

Burfict & Jones single-handidly knocked their team out of the playoffs.

I doubt you'll see either take any responsibility for their own actions, Jones is already bitching about Porter being on the field rather than looking at himself at all.

The way they react says it all imo, the Bengals will never quite be good enough with that kind of leadership on the field.

adrian522 · 11-01-2016 02:25PM

adrian522 wrote: »

Anthony Davis really needs to stay off Twitter...

https://twitter.com/_69POV_/status/685321145822793728/photo/1

I played for Greg Schiano and Jim Harbaugh, I can play for anyone. https://t.co/fbXVcR0OcE

— AD (@BamDavis_) January 8, 2016

One is a good Coach and one is a Great coach, both assholes. They may feel the same about me, that's fair. Either way, we won together.

— AD (@BamDavis_) January 8, 2016

Seriously Anthony put the phone down.

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https://t.co/8fpwuyfzUE

Knex* · 11-01-2016 03:02PM

I'm enjoying this series. I hope he continues!

dfx- · 11-01-2016 03:44PM

BizzyC wrote: »

The way they react says it all imo, the Bengals will never quite be good enough with that kind of leadership on the field.

You've got to wonder, a QB that can't throw the ball, opponent in their own half, incompletion, 22s remaining and they lose their mind. Aside from being dirty, how can you trust them...

Realt Dearg Sec · 11-01-2016 04:03PM

Some Browns fans made this advertisement for 2016 season tickets. It made me feel bad for them.

adrian522 · 11-01-2016 04:14PM

Not overly impressed by SF's role in that ad.

Son Of A Vidic · 11-01-2016 09:35PM

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

Hate to break it to you by untill recently most nfl players where using hgh or "deer antler spray" so there is probably no greatest by your own standard.

I'm been a Football fan for nearly 35 years, so you'll be disappointed to learn players using HGH is nothing new to me. But I was talking about Rice, a player who ruined his own legacy by his own stupid admission to cheating. So I don't know why you're sidetracking about HGH, because that is another matter all together. Throw away comments like most players were using it intrigue me. Define most? What empirical data/studies do you have to back up your claim? Do most players represent 51% of the NFL, or maybe 70%? Some people would say most of the Irish are alcoholics, but unless they can back up their claim, then such sweeping assumptions are pretty much meaningless to me. Oh there's no doubt it's being used, but by how many players? Well that's something nobody can answer.

Areyouwell · 11-01-2016 09:37PM

Hazys wrote: »

If you didn't think Vontae Burfict wasn't a big enough cnut...i raise you this: https://vine.co/v/iMuO9BaxgQT
Throwing an unnecessary knee into Big Ben's shoulder.

Oh I think he’s worse than that and calling him a cnut is a compliment imo...:pac:

11-01-2016 09:38PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I'm been a Football fan for nearly 35 years, so you'll be disappointed to learn players using HGH is nothing new to me. But I was talking about Rice, a player who ruined his own legacy by his own stupid admission to cheating. So I don't know why you're sidetracking about HGH, because that is another matter all together. Throw away comments like most players were using it intrigue me. Define most? What empirical data/studies do you have to back up your claim? Do most players represent 51% of the NFL, or maybe 70%? Some people would say most of the Irish are alcoholics, but unless they can back up their claim, then such sweeping assumptions are pretty much meaningless to me. Oh there's no doubt it's being used, but by how many players? Well that's something nobody can answer.

Sure il give you that stay when you tell me what percentage of games rice used stickum

NotYourYear20 · 11-01-2016 10:09PM

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

Sure il give you that stay when you tell me what percentage of games rice used stickum

That's a senseless question. Wouldn't someone seeking an unfair advantage, want to use this advantage all the time? Shure isn't that the whole point of cheating. It was me that first brought up stickum a few days ago (And I'm sorry I did now). I can't believe we have apologists still trying to defend him. If the guy said he used stickum during his career, then it is cop on to assume he meant his entire career. But even if it was only 5 or 50 percent of the time, it still makes him a cheat

11-01-2016 10:14PM

NotYourYear20 wrote: »

That's a senseless question. Wouldn't someone seeking an unfair advantage, want to use this advantage all the time? Shure isn't that the whole point of cheating. It was me that first brought up stickum a few days ago (And I'm sorry I did now). I can't believe we have apologists still trying to defend him. If the guy said he used stickum during his career, then it is cop on to assume he meant his entire career. But even if it was only 5 or 50 percent of the time, it still makes him a cheat

im not disagreeing but how can you dismiss hgh which is known to be used because i dont have a stat but then decide that jerry rices whole career is bollocks because he used stickum when there are no stats to back that up either?

JaMarcusHustle · 11-01-2016 10:24PM

Interesting that NotYourYear20 and Corvus have an identical opinion on this one!

Benimar · 12-01-2016 12:38AM

Burfict suspended for first 3 games of 2016 season.

eagle eye · 12-01-2016 01:04AM

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Interesting that NotYourYear20 and Corvus have an identical opinion on this one!

Well to me if you are a cheat it doesn't matter whether you used PEDs or stickum. Either way you are using something against the rules to enhance your performance on the field.

I loved watching Jerry Rice and he would have been an all time great even if he didn't use stickum but he did and that's cheating and it certainly takes away from his legacy.

AbusesToilets · 12-01-2016 02:05AM

Benimar wrote: »

Burfict suspended for first 3 games of 2016 season.

Laughable ban, how much more evidence is needed to ban someone for life? The guy plays to injure and has succeeded multiple time.

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