The early wildcard v the dgw wildcard

Iused2likebusts · 06-01-2016 12:03am #1

Have started this thread to see how this pans out to give us something to help us when deciding on wildcarding next year. The new chips and the change in the wildcard rules has resulted in the general feeling being that you should wildcard before the dgws. Id agree with that in once your happy with your team and not taking lots of hits to sort things out. However I feel if your not happy with your team you can do yourself more damage by waiting till then.
Ive a feeling when the dgws come we will have a lot of comments about the success of being able to use your wildcard just before them. As statistically you should get a higher score by being able to fit in more dgw players and also the fact that your on wildcard and can pick whoever you want.
I think its wrong to judge the success of it on a couple of weeks that are stacked in favour of the dgw wildcarder.
You have to factor in did the early wildcarders get an advantage that late wildcarders missed out on. Such as an initial points boost, team value gain.Lack of points hits.

The main thing Im interested in is the number of extra players late wildcarders get over early wildcarders in the dgws and the blank gws.

While we can compare points its in the lap of the gods who delivers on any given week. Even last week id one of my strongest teams out this season 9 players at home all with good fixtures. I got 29 points and a 3 mill plus gw rank.

Im looking at comparing team value, points, point hits from now till season end and number of players played in gw 30,34,35,37. Ill update this every 2 gws for the next 6 gws and then from gw 30 on.

Wildcarders - busts, csf, donal, spock,fingers,km79, mike ehrmantrau
Average points gw 20 1,086 average team value 106.4

Dgw wildcarders lemlin,iroced,fhfc,greedygoblin,tilted brain, kilburn, klopparama
Average points gw 20 1,066 average team value 107.4

Im waiting on klopparamas team id so will update the above when I get it.
I wasnt expecting the wildcarders to have a current higher points average and the non wildcarders have a million extra team value.

FHFC · 06-01-2016 12:23am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Have started this thread to see how this pans out to give us something to help us when deciding on wildcarding next year. The new chips and the change in the wildcard rules has resulted in the general feeling being that you should wildcard before the dgws. Id agree with that in once your happy with your team and not taking lots of hits to sort things out. However I feel if your not happy with your team you can do yourself more damage by waiting till then.
Ive a feeling when the dgws come we will have a lot of comments about the success of being able to use your wildcard just before them. As statistically you should get a higher score by being able to fit in more dgw players and also the fact that your on wildcard and can pick whoever you want.
I think its wrong to judge the success of it on a couple of weeks that are stacked in favour of the dgw wildcarder.
You have to factor in did the early wildcarders get an advantage that late wildcarders missed out on. Such as an initial points boost, team value gain.Lack of points hits.

The main thing Im interested in is the number of extra players late wildcarders get over early wildcarders in the dgws and the blank gws.

While we can compare points its in the lap of the gods who delivers on any given week. Even last week id one of my strongest teams out this season 9 players at home all with good fixtures. I got 29 points and a 3 mill plus gw rank.

Im looking at comparing team value, points, point hits from now till season end and number of players played in gw 30,34,35,37. Ill update this every 2 gws for the next 6 gws and then from gw 30 on.

Wildcarders - busts, csf, donal, spock,fingers,km79, mike ehrmantrau
Average points gw 20 1,086 average team value 106.4

Dgw wildcarders lemlin,iroced,fhfc,greedygoblin,tilted brain, kilburn, klopparama
Average points gw 20 1,066 average team value 107.4

Im waiting on klopparamas team id so will update the above when I get it.
I wasnt expecting the wildcarders to have a current higher points average and the non wildcarders have a million extra team value.

This needs a spreadsheet!

And maybe some graphs.

extra gravy · 06-01-2016 12:24am

FHFC wrote: »

This needs a spreadsheet!

And maybe some graphs.

Ha you're in your element now :pac:

Iused2likebusts · 06-01-2016 12:25am

FHFC wrote: »

This needs a spreadsheet!

And maybe some graphs.

Ye and when things get a bit more complicated you can be the man to put it together:p

F1ngers · 06-01-2016 12:36am

FHFC wrote: »

This needs a spreadsheet!

And maybe some graphs.

And pie charts, everybody likes pie.
Mmm, pie.

06-01-2016 12:39am

Looks great! Been wrecking my head this one too. I'm gonna ply bench boost + triple captain on the first one and aim for all out attack on the other. I think these dgw will cause a lot of movement in the tables.

Iused2likebusts · 06-01-2016 12:42am

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks great! Been wrecking my head this one too. I'm gonna ply bench boost + triple captain on the first one and aim for all out attack on the other. I think these dgw will cause a lot of movement in the tables.

you can only play one chip at a time. There should be 3 dgws so your sorted.

greedygoblin · 06-01-2016 1:04am

This will be very interesting to see how it works out. Well done busts for taking the time to do it.

As you say tv, average points of the two groups is the striking thing starting off. For those of us with a lower than we'd like overall rank, I wonder will this affect how we play the game over the rest of the season? Like riskier captain choices, dodgy one week punts, more points hits etc. Could end up being quite a bit of variation between the two camps.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 06-01-2016 1:39am

I am pulling the dgw avg down something wicked

Mike Ehrmantraut · 06-01-2016 1:42am

Well done busts. Looking forward to see how this pans out.
Hadn't planned on using the wildcard so early, but so far behind in private leagues, needed to do something to hopefully drag myself back into the running.
And, yeah, pie charts, we need some pie charts around here

Mike Ehrmantraut · 06-01-2016 1:59am

TiltedBrain wrote: »

I am pulling the dgw avg down something wicked

Lol, I'm probably doing the same for the wildcarders

Mr.Prodston · 06-01-2016 2:47am

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FHFC · 06-01-2016 10:59am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Ye and when things get a bit more complicated you can be the man to put it together:p

I never need much of an excuse to lash together a nice spreadsheet.

PARlance · 12-01-2016 12:43am

So how are the WC'ers getting on? It would be interesting to see pre and post WC teams and if there are many changes or was it just a few tweaks.

FHFC · 12-01-2016 1:05am

PARlance wrote: »

So how are the WC'ers getting on? It would be interesting to see pre and post WC teams and if there are many changes or was it just a few tweaks.

Will be interesting to see the 'early wildcard template' all right.

Of draft teams I've seen I'm heartened to see a lot that are very similar to my current side. KdB being the big exception that I don't have.

Mike Ehrmantraut · 12-01-2016 1:16am

Transfers:
De Gea - Courtois
McCarthy - Elliot
Bellerin - Cresswell
Kolarov - Sagna
Arnautivic - Payet

Wildcard team

Courtois Elliot
Alderweirld Sagna Cresswell Ward Simpson
Kdb Ozil Payet Mahrez Alli
Aguero Lukaku Kane

Had expected to make another change (Harry Kane) but giving Kane the next 2 gw's.

Was very tempted to go with a front 8 of
Kdb Yaya Sanchez Ozil Alli
Aguero Lukaku Ighalo.
But thought it was overkill on city attacking players and would have left me with zero in the bank

manual_man · 12-01-2016 1:29am

PARlance wrote: »

So how are the WC'ers getting on? It would be interesting to see pre and post WC teams and if there are many changes or was it just a few tweaks.

7 changes myself, so quite a difference. Aguero, Payet, Alli, Alder all in my squad now. And other transfers freed up some funds so it shouldn't be too hard to get Sanchez in should I wish to. But honestly it's simply about salvaging my train wreck of a season from here on in. Aguero and Payet will be differentials, at least in the short term anyway, so hopefully they can do some damage. Aguero's man of the match display in the cup gives me hope he could be close to back to his best. Captaincy going straight on him

PARlance · 12-01-2016 1:41am

FHFC wrote: »

Will be interesting to see the 'early wildcard template' all right.

Of draft teams I've seen I'm heartened to see a lot that are very similar to my current side. KdB being the big exception that I don't have.

Despite being well adrift, I'm in the same boat. Aguero and Payet are in and while I could do with a little trim at the back, I just couldn't see a WC in it.

FHFC · 12-01-2016 1:56am

PARlance wrote: »

Despite being well adrift, I'm in the same boat. Aguero and Payet are in and while I could do with a little trim at the back, I just couldn't see a WC in it.

I took a -8 on Boxing day to set myself up. I was early to the drop Vardy wagon and to have an Aguero, Kane, Lukaku front line. Thankfully the hit seems ti have pointed me in the right direction.

I'll be able to do Arnie to KdB next week. But may well get Sanchez instead.

Iused2likebusts · 12-01-2016 10:29am

PARlance wrote: »

So how are the WC'ers getting on? It would be interesting to see pre and post WC teams and if there are many changes or was it just a few tweaks.

I'm on 10 changes with my current team thats yet to be finalised. My whole back 7 have been changed and 3 of my front 8. This is why I wildcarded mainly as I wanted to go much cheaper at the back.

loadwire · 12-01-2016 12:03pm

Cheers for doing this, will be interested to see how it pans out.

Obviously it's not as black and white as early Jan v DGW - a lot of players will be somewhere in between the two extremes. For example, those badly in need of a rejig now might prefer to take one or two hits and limp until end of Jan window at least (think I'd bite the bullet myself).

Others won't want to leave it as late as GW33/34. I'm in this camp at the moment. No guarantee of a high score that week so I'd prefer to get 8-10 gameweeks 'value' out of my 2nd wildcard rather than putting all my eggs in that basket. Also, barring replays I think we'll know what teams will be having a DGW in week 34 by around week 28 so you could still roughly gear your squad towards it if you used it at that point. I have that week vaguely earmarked for mine, though at the end of the day I suppose it's that gut feeling of when your team needs fixing.

I much prefer the new w/c system - makes the timing of them much more interesting tactically.

SkySter · 12-01-2016 1:39pm

loadwire wrote: »

Cheers for doing this, will be interested to see how it pans out.

Obviously it's not as black and white as early Jan v DGW - a lot of players will be somewhere in between the two extremes. For example, those badly in need of a rejig now might prefer to take one or two hits and limp until end of Jan window at least (think I'd bite the bullet myself).

Others won't want to leave it as late as GW33/34. I'm in this camp at the moment. No guarantee of a high score that week so I'd prefer to get 8-10 gameweeks 'value' out of my 2nd wildcard rather than putting all my eggs in that basket. Also, barring replays I think we'll know what teams will be having a DGW in week 34 by around week 28 so you could still roughly gear your squad towards it if you used it at that point. I have that week vaguely earmarked for mine, though at the end of the day I suppose it's that gut feeling of when your team needs fixing.

I much prefer the new w/c system - makes the timing of them much more interesting tactically.

Agree with this. A lot will depend for me on where I am in my league. My ideal scenario is to play the WC on the last DGW of the season to get me into a significant lead and not have to worry about remaining transfers too much. If I play it too early I've a real fear that the advantage of the short term lead playing TC or Bench boost will be lost if I have to unwind the transfers over the subsequent game weeks. In past years I've screwed up good solid teams built up over several game weeks by making too many changes on the WC. This one needs very careful consideration.

F1ngers · 12-01-2016 3:48pm

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I kept four players, Aguero, Kane, Arnautovic and Simpson.

Plan in next 2/3 weeks is that Arnautovic will make way for Sanchez.
Will also have to sell Costa and bring back Lukaku to fund it.

For good or bad, this is what I've settled on...

Jaggo · 12-01-2016 4:21pm

About Wolls, his next five game weeks are:
13 Jan 19:45 Gameweek 21 Norwich (H)
17 Jan 16:15 Gameweek 22 Arsenal (H)
23 Jan 15:00 Gameweek 23 Leicester (A)
02 Feb 20:00 Gameweek 24 Man Utd (A)
06 Feb 15:00 Gameweek 25 Everton (H)

Maybe someone better short term?

Iused2likebusts · 15-01-2016 12:02am

After 1 gw for the 7 players
Non wildcarders got 202 pts and there TV went up .4
Wildcarders got 201 pts and there TV went down .2
Between the 14 of us the lowest score was 22 busts:( and the highest score was fhfc 34. The non wildcarders took 4 hits between the 7 of them which has been deducted from their score.
Im not sure how valuable the TV data will be RV would be more relevant. Id imagine the wildcarders TV dropped due to having players in in the short term to try and make the elusive .2 profit.
I think the wildcarders are unfortunate the way the week panned out with nobody bar payet delivering from an attacking sense and only city keeping a CS of the teams a wildcarder would have played. Usually you would expect and get a short term bounce from a wildcard. There are some crazy weeks like the gw we just had throughout the season and none of us can predict when that will happen.
My team if I hadnt wildcarded would have got me 10 extra points and it was much weaker on paper than the one I ended up having with my wildcard.

km79 · 15-01-2016 12:07am

After watching MOTD and with city Chelsea and Spurs at home again I think the bounce will come Saturday

when people least expect it

PARlance · 15-01-2016 12:54am

I don't want to kick men when they're down but I'm going to

And I hope a few earlier comments protect me from accusations of aftertiming.... Last week was never the week for a WC, it was a frustration WC in my eyes.

There was only one real transfer needed imo, that being Payet. Aguero if you didn't have him and a case for Costa too.
Anything outside of that, was just a case of reshuffling defences from what I've seen. I say reshuffling rather than improving as no team(s) is really shouting out as must haves. When Spurs are the most "must have" defensive unit, it says a lot for the fairly poor returns from defences across the board.

I only saw one WC team (think it was Spock) that really looked like it was a WC with a difference. It was far enough from template but with nice possibilities to make a difference.
All the rest weren't far off template and I'm not surprised the scoring was so close between those who WC'd and not. Even if it was a high scoring week, I think the scores would have been similar.

Sorry guys

Vote Busts

Iused2likebusts · 15-01-2016 1:28pm

PARlance wrote: »

I don't want to kick men when they're down but I'm going to And I hope a few earlier comments protect me from accusations of aftertiming.... Last week was never the week for a WC, it was a frustration WC in my eyes.

There was only one real transfer needed imo, that being Payet. Aguero if you didn't have him and a case for Costa too.
Anything outside of that, was just a case of reshuffling defences from what I've seen. I say reshuffling rather than improving as no team(s) is really shouting out as must haves. When Spurs are the most "must have" defensive unit, it says a lot for the fairly poor returns from defences across the board.

I only saw one WC team (think it was Spock) that really looked like it was a WC with a difference. It was far enough from template but with nice possibilities to make a difference.
All the rest weren't far off template and I'm not surprised the scoring was so close between those who WC'd and not. Even if it was a high scoring week, I think the scores would have been similar.

Sorry guys Vote Busts

Personally I had to wildcard as I wanted to readjust my team shape from a strong front 8 with relatively expensive defence . To a cheap defence with the scope for getting in as many big hitters as possible.
Before wildcard my eleven this week was
Ddg
Walker Dawson jos
Ramsey ozil kdb mahrez
Vardy lukaku kane
After wildcard
Hennesey
Williams Daniels wolly
Mahrez kdb alli Pedro
Aguero kane lukaku
Normally the wildcard team would outscore the pre wildcard team. When I wildcarded it was also hoped that Sanchez would be back and I would have had him in my team. I know can get him in 1 transfer.
If I didn't wildcard I was getting Aguero and it was costing me 8 pts and I still wouldn't be happy with my team and would need more point hits to get Sanchez in and change my team structure.
Despite my poor score I'm happy with my teams points potential over the next 6 gws.
The key reason I wanted to do this thread is to see how many extra players playing a late wildcarder gets over an early wildcarder and the amount of hits that were taking by both sides over the time period.
My opinion is that if your looking at anything over a 12 pt hit to sort your team out your best to wildcard rather than waiting for the doubles. The ideal scenario is to be happy with your team and wait for the doubles .
We were also in a scenario of a few teams having 4 homes in the next 6 and half the teams having 2 home games in a row which statistically should improve your chance of getting points.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 19-01-2016 2:01pm

Any Wildcarders this week?

Iused2likebusts · 21-01-2016 1:57pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

After 1 gw for the 7 players
Non wildcarders got 202 pts and there TV went up .4
Wildcarders got 201 pts and there TV went down .2
Between the 14 of us the lowest score was 22 busts:( and the highest score was fhfc 34. The non wildcarders took 4 hits between the 7 of them which has been deducted from their score.
Im not sure how valuable the TV data will be RV would be more relevant. Id imagine the wildcarders TV dropped due to having players in in the short term to try and make the elusive .2 profit.
I think the wildcarders are unfortunate the way the week panned out with nobody bar payet delivering from an attacking sense and only city keeping a CS of the teams a wildcarder would have played. Usually you would expect and get a short term bounce from a wildcard. There are some crazy weeks like the gw we just had throughout the season and none of us can predict when that will happen.
My team if I hadnt wildcarded would have got me 10 extra points and it was much weaker on paper than the one I ended up having with my wildcard.

Quick update on this the wildcards got 539 pts between them an average of 77 pts. The dgw wildcarders got 478 pts an average of 68 pts. So after 2 gws the wildcarders on average have 9 pts more. This wildcard bounce is to be expected( but not guaranteed) and is something that needs to be factored in when dgw wildcarders should outscore early wildcarders later when the double comes about.
The key difference I noticed is that 6 of the 7 wildcard teams had both Swansea and Bournemouth defensive coverage. Some combo of rangel, Williams, smith, Daniels. Some of us had Williams and Daniels, some had rangel, and 1 benched Williams. Of the non wildcarders only fhfc had Williams a player he had a few weeks. With aguero and payet returning defensive transfers werent gping to be high priority for a non wildcarder. Obviously Williams and Daniels scoring is a lucky event for those with both the flipside is that I'd class what happened the previous gw as unlucky for a wildcarder with basically no player bar payet delivering.

iroced · 21-01-2016 8:08pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Quick update on this the wildcards got 539 pts between them an average of 77 pts. The dgw wildcarders got 478 pts an average of 68 pts. So after 2 gws the wildcarders on average have 9 pts more. This wildcard bounce is to be expected( but not guaranteed) and is something that needs to be factored in when dgw wildcarders should outscore early wildcarders later when the double comes about.
The key difference I noticed is that 6 of the 7 wildcard teams had both Swansea and Bournemouth defensive coverage. Some combo of rangel, Williams, smith, Daniels. Some of us had Williams and Daniels, some had rangel, and 1 benched Williams. Of the non wildcarders only fhfc had Williams a player he had a few weeks. With aguero and payet returning defensive transfers werent gping to be high priority for a non wildcarder. Obviously Williams and Daniels scoring is a lucky event for those with both the flipside is that I'd class what happened the previous gw as unlucky for a wildcarder with basically no player bar payet delivering.

Daniels & Williams combined for something like an 18 pts bonus over the best expected scenario (Williams 9 pts & Daniels 6). This is a pretty rare bonus for the early WCers who got both of them. I don't quite get how someone benched Williams? Home to Watford and knowing how much a bonus magnet he is.

You can't average it to the previous GW unlucky outcome though since no one performed bar Payet among the popular WC & non-WC players!

Iused2likebusts · 21-01-2016 8:51pm

iroced wrote: »

Daniels & Williams combined for something like an 18 pts bonus over the best expected scenario (Williams 9 pts & Daniels 6). This is a pretty rare bonus for the early WCers who got both of them. I don't quite get how someone benched Williams? Home to Watford and knowing how much a bonus magnet he is.

You can't average it to the previous GW unlucky outcome though since no one performed bar Payet among the popular WC & non-WC players!

The person that benched Williams went with 5 home defenders for the 2 gws not a strategy I would go with myself. Looking at his team he probably did have 3 better defenders on paper so can see why he benched williams but i wouldnt get myself in that situation as he has 5 away this week.
What I'm trying to get at is that I and all wildcarders had a free shot at picking a team that was going to have 2 home fixtures in a row it's an advantage that non wildcarders didn't have. We could on paper pick a stronger team than non wildcards . In that situation you have to expect a wildcard bounce it mightnt transpire but the odds are stacked in your favour. For example I'm sure most of us went with bournemouth for west ham and Norwich home and swansea for Sunderland and Watford home as you would be unlucky not to get 2 c.s out of those 4 fixtures. The goals an unexpected bonus of course. If you were to play your wildcard this gw you would expect to get a boost over the next two gws as you can pick players with better fixtures. Once you know what your doing I would class it unlucky if you didn't get a short term boost. I got more than a boost so I'd class myself lucky out of this wildcard but the average of 9 pts extra is what you would atleast expect from a wildcard in the short term.

iroced · 22-01-2016 2:47am

Oh I 100% agree with you Busts. And I mentioned an expected 15 pts for Daniels/Williams. But 33 is definitely over any expectations. Hence my 18 pts bonus.

As for the extra you'd expect from your WC, it's complicated. It depends a lot on your team and how much surgery and/or planning ahead it needs. This year I had a fantastic return from my WC (115 pts, 16,608th GW rank). But I'd have been a hell of a lot better ranked had I played it by GW3. My huge GW8 boost did not make up for all the pts I could have gained earlier. So despite it being my best ever WC boost, overall it was just a satisfying recover from an earlier big mistake. Also, in previous years I remember many post WC disappointments despite being happy about my team and convinced it was better than before.

Anyway, all that said, I can't wait for the outcome of this thread. With all these new chips and the change in the WCs timing, it's modifying the whole season strategies. And trying to figure out the best ones and building the most competitive team is probably the most exciting aspect of this game.

Iused2likebusts · 25-01-2016 9:55pm

Will calculate the scores after the next gw just looked at the scores from the 6 lads that are in the fsa premier. There are 3 from each camp. The non wildcarders comfortably outscored the wildcarders. The key difference being the non wildcarders all played alli and the wildcarders all benched him. 2 of the wildcarders also went with lukaku capt over aguero .

CSF · 25-01-2016 10:10pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Will calculate the scores after the next gw just looked at the scores from the 6 lads that are in the fsa premier. There are 3 from each camp. The non wildcarders comfortably outscored the wildcarders. The key difference being the non wildcarders all played alli and the wildcarders all benched him. 2 of the wildcarders also went with lukaku capt over aguero .

Who needs Alli when you can have Firmino

Iused2likebusts · 08-02-2016 3:19pm

After 5 gws the average score for the 7 players in each camp are
Wildcarders 274
Non wildcarder 282
After 2 gws the wildcarders had a 9 pt lead so in the last 3 gws there has been a swing of 17 pts back in favour of the non wildcarders.
The top 5 scorers over the last 5 gws are
CSF ( wildcarder) 301
FHFC (non wildcarder) 295
Busts ( wildcarder) 294
Lemlin (non wildcarder) 288
Iroced (non wildcarder) 285

CSF · 08-02-2016 5:45pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

After 5 gws the average score for the 7 players in each camp are
Wildcarders 274
Non wildcarder 282
After 2 gws the wildcarders had a 9 pt lead so in the last 3 gws there has been a swing of 17 pts back in favour of the non wildcarders.
The top 5 scorers over the last 5 gws are
CSF ( wildcarder) 301
FHFC (non wildcarder) 295
Busts ( wildcarder) 294
Lemlin (non wildcarder) 288
Iroced (non wildcarder) 285

And I'm still languishing in the 200ks.

Mike Ehrmantraut · 09-02-2016 11:06am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

After 5 gws the average score for the 7 players in each camp are
Wildcarders 274
Non wildcarder 282
After 2 gws the wildcarders had a 9 pt lead so in the last 3 gws there has been a swing of 17 pts back in favour of the non wildcarders.
The top 5 scorers over the last 5 gws are
CSF ( wildcarder) 301
FHFC (non wildcarder) 295
Busts ( wildcarder) 294
Lemlin (non wildcarder) 288
Iroced (non wildcarder) 285

My 263 isn't helping the overall wildcard average.
Just checked my team before wild carding, if I had done nothing and played the same team (adjusting for injuries), I would have got 309pts.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 01-03-2016 11:05pm

Any updates planned Busts?

Iused2likebusts · 01-03-2016 11:07pm

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Any updates planned Busts?

Ye I'll have a look at it before Friday. You must be on a good run ha.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 01-03-2016 11:59pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Ye I'll have a look at it before Friday. You must be on a good run ha.

Not exactly! Just interested. And planning my wc

Iused2likebusts · 02-03-2016 12:05am

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Not exactly! Just interested. And planning my wc

Ill be doing it this week and after gw30. Then the key gws 34,35 and 37.

Iused2likebusts · 07-03-2016 12:46pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

After 5 gws the average score for the 7 players in each camp are
Wildcarders 274
Non wildcarder 282
After 2 gws the wildcarders had a 9 pt lead so in the last 3 gws there has been a swing of 17 pts back in favour of the non wildcarders.
The top 5 scorers over the last 5 gws are
CSF ( wildcarder) 301
FHFC (non wildcarder) 295
Busts ( wildcarder) 294
Lemlin (non wildcarder) 288
Iroced (non wildcarder) 285

OK so after 9 gws and 4 gws since the last update.
The early wildcards 503 average.
The non wildcards 487 average.
A 16 pt average difference for the early wildcard.
In the past 4 weeks the early wildcarders have averaged 24 more points than the dgw wildcarders.
TOP 5 scores since gw 20 when we wildcarded.
1 busts 533 wildcarder
2 tilted brain 525 non wildcarder
3 csf 518 wildcarders
4 lemlin 517 non wildcarder
5 spock 516 wildcarders

I'm delighted with how my wildcard has gone as my move to a cheap defence and gks which was a key reason for me wildcarding has been a great success. In the 9 weeks before my wildcard I had an expensive defence gk of ddg Bellerin kolarov etc they got me 114 pts in 9 gws. Since wildcarding and moving to cheap gks and 5 rotating cheap defs bar vvd in recent weeks I've got 163 pts in 9 gws. My gk and back 3 are getting me on average 5.5 pts more a week than prior to wildcard. Having said that my 2 cheap gks have been a disaster hennessey elliot so I'll need to make a change here. Also looking at my transfers since wildcard bar Pedro to payet all the transfers I've made in 9 gws have been due to injury or necessity due to blanks. I haven't made 1 move due to looking to get a form player in.

km79 · 07-03-2016 1:09pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

OK so after 9 gws and 4 gws since the last update.
The early wildcards 503 average.
The non wildcards 487 average.
A 16 pt average difference for the early wildcard.
In the past 4 weeks the early wildcarders have averaged 24 more points than the dgw wildcarders.
TOP 5 scores since gw 20 when we wildcarded.
1 busts 533 wildcarder
2 tilted brain 525 non wildcarder
3 csf 518 wildcarders
4 lemlin 517 non wildcarder
5 spock 516 wildcarders

I'm delighted with how my wildcard has gone as my move to a cheap defence and gks which was a key reason for me wildcarding has been a great success. In the 9 weeks before my wildcard I had an expensive defence gk of ddg Bellerin kolarov etc they got me 114 pts in 9 gws. Since wildcarding and moving to cheap gks and 5 rotating cheap defs bar vvd in recent weeks I've got 163 pts in 9 gws. My gk and back 3 are getting me on average 5.5 pts more a week than prior to wildcard. Having said that my 2 cheap gks have been a disaster hennessey elliot so I'll need to make a change here. Also looking at my transfers since wildcard bar Pedro to payet all the transfers I've made in 9 gws have been due to injury or necessity due to blanks. I haven't made 1 move due to looking to get a form player in.

Id be dead and buried in my money league if I had not moved early
And the lads fighting with me for the money have only 6/7 available next week so will prob use it now anyway

iroced · 07-03-2016 1:13pm

@ Busts. Can you post everyone's updated scores?

Iused2likebusts · 07-03-2016 1:27pm

iroced wrote: »

@ Busts. Can you post everyone's updated scores?

6 fhfc 500 non wildcard
7 fingers 492 wildcard
8 iroced 490 non wildcard
9 Donal 490 wildcard
10 klopparama 488 non wildcard
11 Mike ehrmataurant 487 wildcard
12 km79 484 wildcard
13 Kilburn 457 non wildcard
14 greedy goblin 437 non wildcard

SteelyDanJalapeno · 07-03-2016 1:58pm

An abysmal 1st half of the season has ruined my ranking, I'd be bossing my pay leagues had I adapted sooner.

Iused2likebusts · 15-04-2016 3:20pm

Update after gw 33
The average score for late wildcarders is 758 the average score for early wildcarders is 756.

Since gw 20 early wildcarders have taken a total of 21 hits while the late wildcarders have taken 17 hits. Spock leads the way with 7 hits. While iroced, lemlin and mike ehrmantrau have yet to tke a hit.
In gw 33 the late wildcarders had 27 dgw players the early wildcarders had 19 dgw players

Total scores since gw 20
1 Busts 798 early
2 Lemlin 795 late
3 Fhfc 794 late
4 klopparama 773 late
5 spock 768 early
6 csf 767 early
7 mike ehrmantraum 761 early
8 tilted brain 758 late
9 kilburn 754 late
10 fingers 752 early
11 km79 746 early
12 iroced 734 late
13 greedygoblin 704 late
14 donal 703 early

iroced · 15-04-2016 3:34pm

Wow :eek:! Was 10 pts behind FHFC at your last update (GW29 IIRC) and I'm now 60 behind! 50 pts lost over 5 GWs!

I should be banned from giving any advice in here :pac:

...

FHFC · 15-04-2016 4:08pm

iroced wrote: »

Wow :eek:! Was 10 pts behind FHFC at your last update (GW29 IIRC) and I'm now 60 behind! 50 pts lost over 5 GWs!

I should be banned from giving any advice in here :pac: ...

Eat dust Frenchman...

spock. · 15-04-2016 4:15pm

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Update after gw 33
The average score for late wildcarders is 758 the average score for early wildcarders is 756.

Since gw 20 early wildcarders have taken a total of 21 hits while the late wildcarders have taken 17 hits. Spock leads the way with 7 hits. While iroced, lemlin and mike ehrmantrau have yet to tke a hit.
In gw 33 the late wildcarders had 27 dgw players the early wildcarders had 19 dgw players

Total scores since gw 20
1 Busts 798 early
2 Lemlin 795 late
3 Fhfc 794 late
4 klopparama 773 late
5 spock 768 early
6 csf 767 early
7 mike ehrmantraum 761 early
8 tilted brain 758 late
9 kilburn 754 late
10 fingers 752 early
11 km79 746 early
12 iroced 734 late
13 greedygoblin 704 late
14 donal 703 early

You can make that 10 after this week :pac:

The early wildcard v the dgw wildcard

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