Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2016

The Lost Sheep · 15-10-2015 7:34pm #1

As draws for the Munster championship have been made for next year we may as well start a new thread

Tipperary will play Cork in the quarter-final of the 2016 Munster Hurling Championship with the winners playing Limerick

Munster SFC
Quarter-Finals:
Tipperary v Waterford and Clare v Limerick
Semi Finals
Clare or Limerick v Kerry
Tipperary or Waterford v Cork

tippspur · 15-10-2015 9:32pm

As far as I know we play Cork in Thurles and if we beat them we play Limerick in Thurles in the semi also,I would presume that the Waterford V Clare game will also be played in Thurles.

The Lost Sheep · 22-10-2015 9:13pm

2016 Munster Under 21 & Minor Hurling/Football were drawn at tonight's Munster CCC meeting

Minor Football
We play Cork in first round. Win and we play winner of losers playoff in the semi
Kerry host Waterford and Clare host Limerick

Minor Hurling
Limerick v Clare; Cork v Waterford; Tipperary v Cork or Waterford loser; S-F draw to avoid repeat pairings

U21 Football
Clare v Cork, winners play Waterford; Tipperary v Kerry, winners play Limerick

U21 Hurling
Limerick v Cork, winners v Tipperary; Waterford v Clare

jprboy · 22-10-2015 9:30pm

tippspur wrote: »

As far as I know we play Cork in Thurles and if we beat them we play Limerick in Thurles in the semi also,I would presume that the Waterford V Clare game will also be played in Thurles.

Wouldn't be surprised if that was played in Limerick

24-10-2015 4:07pm

Whoa jeez only after discovering this thread now

I was wondering why the 2015 thread was gone so quiet.

Co final day tomorrow (although shouldn't that be in the 2015 thread? Tut tut

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Can Nenagh cause a shock? Anyone at the football last week?

ReacherCreature · 27-10-2015 8:10pm

The Lost Sheep, you'd best sleep with one eye open for the rest of the year after stealing TG's job!

27-10-2015 8:12pm

Ah now we won't resort to that, Its not Premierview

marvin80 · 28-10-2015 2:17pm

Provisional league fixtures (apologies for any mistakes)

Hurling:
13 Feb 7pm Tipp v Dublin
21 Feb 2pm Kilkenny v Tipp
6 Mar 2pm Tipp v Waterford
13 Mar 2pm Galway v Tipp
20 Mar 2pm Tipp v Cork

Football:
31 Jan 2pm Limerick v Tipp
7 Feb 2pm Tipp v Clare
28 Feb 2pm Westmeath v Tipp
6 Mar tbc Tipp v Offaly
13 March 2pm Longford v Tipp
26 March 7pm Tipp v Kildare
3 April 3pm Sligo v Tipp

https://twitter.com/JohnFogartyIrl/status/643545813700997120

digzy · 29-10-2015 5:34pm

lads, would it not be an idea to close the old thread or suspend the new one?

29-10-2015 5:47pm

digzy wrote: »

lads, would it not be an idea to close the old thread or suspend the new one?

I'd second that. Suspend the new one until we are actually into 2016. loads of club games left in 2015 to discuss.

Xenophile · 29-10-2015 11:49pm

digzy wrote: »

lads, would it not be an idea to close the old thread or suspend the new one?

Suspend the Nrw One. Poll indicates that we might be in GAA in 2016.

29-10-2015 11:58pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Suspend the Nrw One. Poll indicates that we might be in GAA in 2016.

I'd agree with holding off on the new one but at the moment the polls are evenly divided. No overwhelming majorities as of yet. I'd say if it's to be decided it will be decided by a very small minority in favour and could swing either direction.

The Lost Sheep · 30-10-2015 9:53am

digzy wrote: »

lads, would it not be an idea to close the old thread or suspend the new one?

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd second that. Suspend the new one until we are actually into 2016. loads of club games left in 2015 to discuss.

Lads instead of questioning validness of thread on the forum. If ye feel thread shouldn't be open then report a post to bring it to attention of a mod.
I don't see any problem with having a thread for 2016 open. To discuss potential changes to senior squad, who people would like added to squad. dropped etc

30-10-2015 7:35pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Lads instead of questioning validness of thread on the forum. If ye feel thread shouldn't be open then report a post to bring it to attention of a mod.
I don't see any problem with having a thread for 2016 open. To discuss potential changes to senior squad, who people would like added to squad. dropped etc

Too early yet really. Those questions won't be answered until at least the national league throws in. With no actual games, the county is the last thing on my mind at the moment. And I think its all too easy to ask for call ups based on club form. Many have failed to meet the standard in the past despite being excellent for the club throughout the club championships.

We haven't even picked selectors yet despite the manager being in place a year, another complete joke. I was all on for continuity but only if the whole management were secured.

The Lost Sheep · 30-10-2015 7:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Too early yet really. Those questions won't be answered until at least the national league throws in. With no actual games, the county is the last thing on my mind at the moment. And I think its all too easy to ask for call ups based on club form. Many have failed to meet the standard in the past despite being excellent for the club throughout the club championships.

We haven't even picked selectors yet despite the manager being in place a year, another complete joke. I was all on for continuity but only if the whole management were secured.

It isn't really too early to make any predictions and discuss changes. Its all going to be your opinion on who you would like added to squad/tried in new positions etc.

30-10-2015 10:38pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

It isn't really too early to make any predictions and discuss changes. Its all going to be your opinion on who you would like added to squad/tried in new positions etc.

Think it will be a continuation of the previous regime tbh albeit with a man who doesn't even stand out enough in memory to be talked of in any detail by both Lar and Brendan Cummins in their respective books. He was either not liked or just blended in in the background

Not holding out any hope for Ryan. No selectors willing to come on board and he was ratified LAST YEAR. Another disaster upon us I fear.

The Lost Sheep · 25-11-2015 11:23am

Senior, u21/Junior and Minor coaching teams announced

http://tipperary.gaa.ie/tipperary-football-management-appointments/

And what was passed/discussed at recent county board meeting
http://tipperary.gaa.ie/tipperary-championship-2016-motions/

The Lost Sheep · 03-12-2015 1:26pm

Munster football manager Gerry O'Sullivan and his hurling counterpart Anthony Daly have revealed their squads for Saturday's inter-provincial semi-finals against Leinster in Newry and Pearse Stadium respectively.

We have 3 in football squad and 7 in hurling squad
Football: Peter Acheson, Steven O’Brien, Michael Quinlivan
Hurling: Padraic Maher(Captain), Cathal Barrett, James Barry, Kieran Bergin, Darren Gleeson, Patrick Maher, John O’Dwyer

Xenophile · 03-12-2015 1:58pm

Michael Quinlivan will hardly play as he is due to play with Clonmel Commercials against Tir Chonaill Gaels in London on Saturday 12th.

digzy · 03-12-2015 4:27pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Munster football manager Gerry O'Sullivan and his hurling counterpart Anthony Daly have revealed their squads for Saturday's inter-provincial semi-finals against Leinster in Newry and Pearse Stadium respectively.

We have 3 in football squad and 7 in hurling squad
Football: Peter Acheson, Steven O’Brien, Michael Quinlivan
Hurling: Padraic Maher(Captain), Cathal Barrett, James Barry, Kieran Bergin, Darren Gleeson, Patrick Maher, John O’Dwyer

you'd have expected callanan on that.....maybe he's injured or 'politely declined'

The Lost Sheep · 10-12-2015 8:38pm

Tipperary senior hurling squad for 2016

Goalkeepers: Darren Gleeson, Brian Hogan.
Defenders: Cathal Barrett, James Barry, Conor O’Brien, Michael Cahill, Padraic Maher (vice-captain), Ronan Maher, Barry Heffernan, Michael Breen, Paddy Stapleton, John Meagher, Joe O’Dwyer, Liam Ryan, Seamus Kennedy, Tomas Hamill, Willie Ryan.
Midfielders: Brendan Maher (captain), Kieran Bergin, Bill Maher, Daire Quinn, Joe Gallagher.
Forwards: John O’Dwyer, Seamus Callanan, Niall O’Meara, Patrick Maher, Noel McGrath, Liam McGrath, John McGrath, Jason Forde, Gearoid Ryan, Adrian Ryan, Dan McCormack, Conor Kenny, Kieran Morris, Andrew Coffey, Sean Ryan, Sean Curran, Steven O’Brien, Dylan Fitzell.

Thoughts?

10-12-2015 8:46pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Tipperary senior hurling squad for 2016

Goalkeepers: Darren Gleeson, Brian Hogan.
Defenders: Cathal Barrett, James Barry, Conor O’Brien, Michael Cahill, Padraic Maher (vice-captain), Ronan Maher, Barry Heffernan, Michael Breen, Paddy Stapleton, John Meagher, Joe O’Dwyer, Liam Ryan, Seamus Kennedy, Tomas Hamill, Willie Ryan.
Midfielders: Brendan Maher (captain), Kieran Bergin, Bill Maher, Daire Quinn, Joe Gallagher.
Forwards: John O’Dwyer, Seamus Callanan, Niall O’Meara, Patrick Maher, Noel McGrath, Liam McGrath, John McGrath, Jason Forde, Gearoid Ryan, Adrian Ryan, Dan McCormack, Conor Kenny, Kieran Morris, Andrew Coffey, Sean Ryan, Sean Curran, Steven O’Brien, Dylan Fitzell.

Thoughts?

Good to see Ado Ryan get another crack at the whip. Fitzelle a strange one. He was barely turning out for his club from what i hear. No Tadhg Gallagher either.

The Lost Sheep · 11-12-2015 12:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Good to see Ado Ryan get another crack at the whip. Fitzelle a strange one. He was barely turning out for his club from what i hear. No Tadhg Gallagher either.

Fitzelle would have to have been picked on club form as hasn't really made an impact with county sides in a few years...

Dave Moriarty and Ian Dowling, ex Munster rugby player, have been added to the back room team as S&C and physio respectively....

digzy · 11-12-2015 1:20pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Fitzelle would have to have been picked on club form as hasn't really made an impact with county sides in a few years...

Dave Moriarty and Ian Dowling, ex Munster rugby player, have been added to the back room team as S&C and physio respectively....

Ian dowling?

Sounds like we could've a spy in the camp!

12-12-2015 2:07am

digzy wrote: »

Ian dowling?

Sounds like we could've a spy in the camp!

Ah what are we at at all?

A big O'loughlins man afaik and having met the Comerfords before i can tell you they are not that keen on Tipp.

12-12-2015 1:27pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Dave Moriarty and Ian Dowling, ex Munster rugby player, have been added to the back room team as S&C and physio respectively....

Actually the football backroom they have been added to according to ET on 'last years' thread. Phew, sighs of reliefs all round :pac:

Paddico · 15-12-2015 1:12pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Tipperary senior hurling squad for 2016

Goalkeepers: Darren Gleeson, Brian Hogan.
Defenders: Cathal Barrett, James Barry, Conor O’Brien, Michael Cahill, Padraic Maher (vice-captain), Ronan Maher, Barry Heffernan, Michael Breen, Paddy Stapleton, John Meagher, Joe O’Dwyer, Liam Ryan, Seamus Kennedy, Tomas Hamill, Willie Ryan.
Midfielders: Brendan Maher (captain), Kieran Bergin, Bill Maher, Daire Quinn, Joe Gallagher.
Forwards: John O’Dwyer, Seamus Callanan, Niall O’Meara, Patrick Maher, Noel McGrath, Liam McGrath, John McGrath, Jason Forde, Gearoid Ryan, Adrian Ryan, Dan McCormack, Conor Kenny, Kieran Morris, Andrew Coffey, Sean Ryan, Sean Curran, Steven O’Brien, Dylan Fitzell.

Thoughts?

Has Steven O Brien dropped the football?

The Lost Sheep · 15-12-2015 1:48pm

Paddico wrote: »

Has Steven O Brien dropped the football?

Concentrating on hurling for 2016 unfortunately

Mantis Toboggan · 15-12-2015 6:18pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Concentrating on hurling for 2016 unfortunately

Or fortunately, dual players are a thing of the past at the highest level.

Paddico · 16-12-2015 1:00pm

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Or fortunately, dual players are a thing of the past at the highest level.

No definitely unfortunate. A big loss loosing a player of Stevens calibre to the hurlers.

solerina · 16-12-2015 2:22pm

S O Brien, S Kennedy, B Maher....all huge losses to the football team

16-12-2015 8:29pm

solerina wrote: »

S O Brien, S Kennedy, B Maher....all huge losses to the football team

Bill Maher is best suited to football. He is a marvelous footballer. Perhaps O'Brien might also fit into that category. He did say that if he got the time to practice he could improve as a hurler but i think ultimately he is too good a footballer to waste his talent on the hurling bench. He is strong and offers a good ballwinning option. But i just cant see him or Bill becoming a major starter for Tipp. Seamus on the other hand could well fill that gap left by Conor o'mahony. Watch this space.

solerina · 16-12-2015 8:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Bill Maher is best suited to football. He is a marvelous footballer. Perhaps O'Brien might also fit into that category. He did say that if he got the time to practice he could improve as a hurler but i think ultimately he is too good a footballer to waste his talent on the hurling bench. He is strong and offers a good ballwinning option. But i just cant see him or Bill becoming a major starter for Tipp. Seamus on the other hand could well fill that gap left by Conor o'mahony. Watch this space.

Agree, while all are great footballers, SK is an amazing athlete....he really is the perfect dual player...pity he has to choose one code

Paddico · 17-12-2015 11:48am

solerina wrote: »

S O Brien, S Kennedy, B Maher....all huge losses to the football team

I think their loss to Tipp football is far greater than the impact they will make with the hurlers. Shame really

danganabu · 17-12-2015 1:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Good to see Ado Ryan get another crack at the whip. Fitzelle a strange one. He was barely turning out for his club from what i hear. No Tadhg Gallagher either.

Seen Templederry on a number of occasions last year and Adrian Ryan was their stand out player every time so yes definitely agree he deserves another shot.

Fitzelle is bizzare indeed, he seems to have garnered a reputation on teh back of a minor final against Dublin in which his physicality caused Dublin serious problems, it seems to be forgotten that he wasn't deemed good enough to be on that team all year and that his hurling was extremely limited and is not likely to have improved by not making a Cashel team that have fallen to all time lows.

Gallagher's omission doesn't surprise me to be honest, he is exactly the type of hurler that the county is littered with, his brother will be far more suited to inter county hurling and to be honest the bigger surprise was when Tadghie was called in by O'Shea.

danganabu · 17-12-2015 2:02pm

Paddico wrote: »

I think their loss to Tipp football is far greater than the impact they will make with the hurlers. Shame really

That remains to be seen really, if it doesn't work out with the hurlers then I'm sure they will be welcomed back with open arms.

Bill Maher will be back playing football by April. This is not exactly a new development either, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen for ever more, the only player ever to conciously pick football over hurling was Declan Browne and he was a once in a generation footballer, Colin O'Riordan may well have followed suit but that's a moot point as he wasn't near a good enough hurler to begin with.

This is why Tipp will never, despite what some with vested interests tell you, be a top dual county at senior level, the numbers or indeed the finances simply aren't there. Dublin with a far bigger population and budget are unable to truly reach the top level at hurling, why?? Because all their top minors are dual players and the only ones who end up playing hurling are those deemed not good enough for the footballers or those who end up surplus to requirements in the latter part of their careers. Cork and Galway are two other examples of counties who have tried and failed.

Xenophile · 17-12-2015 5:27pm

Paddico wrote: »

I think their loss to Tipp football is far greater than the impact they will make with the hurlers. Shame really

I would agree, many who support the blue and gold would prefer to see the best footballers help us get promotion to Division 2.

In fact many of the football supporters would gladly sacrifice a McCarthy Cup if it meant that these footballers helped Tipperary become a force in football. And why not ? Isn't this what a true football supporter is all about !

17-12-2015 10:14pm

danganabu wrote: »

Seen Templederry on a number of occasions last year and Adrian Ryan was their stand out player every time so yes definitely agree he deserves another shot.

Fitzelle is bizzare indeed, he seems to have garnered a reputation on teh back of a minor final against Dublin in which his physicality caused Dublin serious problems, it seems to be forgotten that he wasn't deemed good enough to be on that team all year and that his hurling was extremely limited and is not likely to have improved by not making a Cashel team that have fallen to all time lows.

Gallagher's omission doesn't surprise me to be honest, he is exactly the type of hurler that the county is littered with, his brother will be far more suited to inter county hurling and to be honest the bigger surprise was when Tadghie was called in by O'Shea.

Jeez i dunno he seems to have pace to burn if he can get a ball in his hand and unlike the others we are littered with he loves to run at backs.

danganabu · 17-12-2015 10:22pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Jeez i dunno he seems to have pace to burn if he can get a ball in his hand and unlike the others we are littered with he loves to run at backs.

Getting it in to his hand is the problem though, work rate and physical presence would leave a lot to be desired. He is the fastest I have ever seen to be honest but I don't think its enough, not yet anyway, maybe in time.

17-12-2015 10:24pm

danganabu wrote: »

That remains to be seen really, if it doesn't work out with the hurlers then I'm sure they will be welcomed back with open arms.

Bill Maher will be back playing football by April. This is not exactly a new development either, it has been happening for years and will continue to happen for ever more, the only player ever to conciously pick football over hurling was Declan Browne and he was a once in a generation footballer, Colin O'Riordan may well have followed suit but that's a moot point as he wasn't near a good enough hurler to begin with.

This is why Tipp will never, despite what some with vested interests tell you, be a top dual county at senior level, the numbers or indeed the finances simply aren't there. Dublin with a far bigger population and budget are unable to truly reach the top level at hurling, why?? Because all their top minors are dual players and the only ones who end up playing hurling are those deemed not good enough for the footballers or those who end up surplus to requirements in the latter part of their careers. Cork and Galway are two other examples of counties who have tried and failed.

I think the failure to manage dual players is down to the coaches from grass roots up tbh and the organisation as a whole isnt as interested in society as it likes to claim it is. Glory and medals is the carrot dangled over nurturing actual attitude, ability and talent. No guidance given to youngsters whatsoever. Just egomaniacs trying to put a feather in their caps and live vicariously through the kids. Game is all about getting the strongest in from a young age. They claim to be these great social givers but the GAA gets more from society then it puts back. They get their grass cut for nothing by lads on the scambridge in pitches all over the country.

Quite frankly the reason there is failure to develop both codes is because there is hapless power hungry individuals throughout.

evolving tipperary · 18-12-2015 6:19pm

Am I barred from this? Anyone else having trouble finding the follow button?!??!!

The Lost Sheep · 18-12-2015 6:38pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Am I barred from this? Anyone else having trouble finding the follow button?!??!!

No problem for me. Contact one of the site admins/boards.ie accounts or site admin if having an issue id say

evolving tipperary · 18-12-2015 7:02pm

Sorted

maximo31 · 24-12-2015 6:21pm

Documentary with Lar and Eoin on Setanta Christmas evening. Might be of interest to some..........think there is some more chat about Babs!!

Paarthurnax · 25-12-2015 7:11pm

We ranked 3rd Hurling:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1220/755324-hurling-rankings-2015/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

17th in Football
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1219/755198-football-rankings-2015-how-does-your-county-rate/

The Lost Sheep · 29-12-2015 10:06pm

Hurlers have a game against Offaly in Templemore Sunday week 2pm.

evolving tipperary · 29-12-2015 11:44pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Hurlers have a game against Offaly in Templemore Sunday week 2pm.

If this weather keeps up they'll be surfing instead...

Spirit of 67 · 02-01-2016 3:54pm

Peter McNulty Tournament ( Leinster and surrounding areas League style of thing ) Under 21 Football : Tipp 1-11 Down 0-12 , hopefully Seniors can get year off to a good start by beating Clare tomorrow !

Spirit of 67 · 03-01-2016 5:26pm

Beaten by a point in Miltown Malbay , late Clare goal won it . Plenty of new faces . Kevin O`Halloran done very well as did Brian Fox and Josh Keane .

Xenophile · 03-01-2016 7:02pm

Spirit of 67 wrote: »

Beaten by a point in Miltown Malbay , late Clare goal won it . Plenty of new faces . Kevin O`Halloran done very well as did Brian Fox and Josh Keane .

Great to see other players step up to the plate when Clonmel Commercials players are unavailable !

danganabu · 03-01-2016 11:29pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Great to see other players step up to the plate when Clonmel Commercials players are unavailable !

Will only be two Commercials players involved I would imagine, although I believe there were a few others missing.

Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2016

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