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Connacht vs Ulster sportsground 18:00 TG4/BBCNI

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,470 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    A real feel of old Connacht about that second half effort. Very poor stuff. The missed touch from McGinty when Ulster were still down to 14 was the turning point and then Ulster had two chances to win it and took the second one. Connacht never really looked like scoring a try in the whole of the second half and at home, that's just not good enough.

    Had a great chance when they were about 5M from the line but it all got a bit loose and frantic and someone knocked on. Same as the first 10 minutes when they had great field position to score. No composure, too frantic and Carty lost patience and tried a grubber.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    We will take that win. Any kind of result in Galway is a positive these irrespective of how it comes about.

    4 wins on the bounce now for Ulster and if we manage 3 wins from the next 4 games (plus a couple of BP in Eurppe) we will set up the second half of the campaign nicely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Brewster


    Ulster more composed team and shaded it. Disappointing for Connaught but a good result for league including Munster and Leinster. Big Nick obviously playing for his future! Does this mean Ulster will be bringing in a world class back row?!


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Rubbish game, good result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    awec wrote: »
    Rubbish game, good result

    Really enjoyable first half - was great atmosphere in the Sportsground
    Second half was bit of a lame duck at times alright - alot of errors by both sides
    Ulster were so good at just soaking up the pressure

    Someone said O'Connor did a nasty stamp on Aki but I didn't spot it myself so dunno if anything in it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Really enjoyable first half - was great atmosphere in the Sportsground
    Second half was bit of a lame duck at times alright - alot of errors by both sides
    Ulster were so good at just soaking up the pressure

    Someone said O'Connor did a nasty stamp on Aki but I didn't spot it myself so dunno if anything in it

    No, not a stamp. He was unsighted and went to put his foot down, when he realised it was a player on the ground he lifted his foot. There was no pressure applied.

    Fairly scrapy by both sides but maybe that little bit of quality ulster have shone through in the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    connachta wrote: »
    Hold until 60 min as Connacht bench is better
    flouncer wrote: »
    agree again connachta
    flouncer wrote: »
    when our proper 1-3 are put on then things will happen. even rodney over nathan

    Perhaps Connacht should have sent on the bench then rather than the players sitting on it......:D If Loughney and Ah You are your best props you're in diffs. I would have thought White was a better player. Bealham looks to be coming along well but I thought he was a t/h.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Ulster defence was outstanding. We could be still playing this time tomorrow and wouldn't cross the whitewash. Disappointing game that Ulster just about deserved to win. For a team that is top of the try scoring charts we've made heavy weather of doing so since the Munster game. All the changes and players returning from injury didn't help - Ulster had a more settled side and it showed. Hopefully we get a bit more continuity for next week and players start to gel together again. Thankfully no serious injuries (that I noticed anyway).

    Watched Ronaldson kicking in the warm up and he hardly missed, some pretty difficult ones too. Very disappointing the ones he missed in the game...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    We were missing a tiny bit accuracy and it killed us against a quality ulster side. We should have had at least one try in the opening half but for two poor efforts from masterson with a ko and a poor pass to niyi with a one on one waiting.

    Jack had an off night and macginty never got his groove. Should have won. Poor loss but I am feeling decent about our chances next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    jacothelad wrote: »
    connachta wrote: »
    Hold until 60 min as Connacht bench is better
    flouncer wrote: »
    agree again connachta
    flouncer wrote: »
    when our proper 1-3 are put on then things will happen. even rodney over nathan

    Perhaps Connacht should have sent on the bench then rather than the players sitting on it......:D If Loughney and Ah You are your best props you're in diffs. I would have thought White was a better player. Bealham looks to be coming along well but I thought he was a t/h.

    Remember Jaco when the two boys called Ulster to be the kicking teams and Connacht the beautiful running west of Ireland All Blacks.

    Hate that we lost but enjoyed those predictions at FT, because one team kicked ball and did it awfully and that team wasn't wearing white.

    Ulster deserving tonight but a missed opportunity. Have to forgive the team as it hasn't properly played together since Munster, you could see ideas right but execution poor with so many passes going to hand but going to chest or behind the players. So our skills that we have been praising this season, deserve their criticism tonight. Didn't see anything that doesn't make me think we can't get a result in RDS though.

    Everyone in Clan Stand couldn't believe Healt didn't go to vine. Far too lucky.

    Turning point was AJ kick to touch, needs to better.

    Thought Marmion was outstanding and got the better of Pienaar, while Craig and Bundee neutralised McCloskey and Marshall, and vice versa for Ulster.

    Disappointing evening but sometimes you just see the difference in team getting better and the team better for 3/4 seasons now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭flouncer


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Perhaps Connacht should have sent on the bench then rather than the players sitting on it......:D If Loughney and Ah You are your best props you're in diffs. I would have thought White was a better player. Bealham looks to be coming along well but I thought he was a t/h.
    thats a tad unfair. if thats your opinion then its not agreed with smiley faces or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    No, not a stamp. He was unsighted and went to put his foot down, when he realised it was a player on the ground he lifted his foot. There was no pressure applied.

    Fairly scrapy by both sides but maybe that little bit of quality ulster have shone through in the end.

    I actually saw it real time and I was very impressed by how Alan O Connor managed to pull his foot back in mid air and avoid stamping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    its_phil wrote: »
    Remember Jaco when the two boys called Ulster to be the kicking teams and Connacht the beautiful running west of Ireland All Blacks.

    Hate that we lost but enjoyed those predictions at FT, because one team kicked ball and did it awfully and that team wasn't wearing white.

    Ulster deserving tonight but a missed opportunity. Have to forgive the team as it hasn't properly played together since Munster, you could see ideas right but execution poor with so many passes going to hand but going to chest or behind the players. So our skills that we have been praising this season, deserve their criticism tonight. Didn't see anything that doesn't make me think we can't get a result in RDS though.

    Everyone in Clan Stand couldn't believe Healt didn't go to vine. Far too lucky.

    Turning point was AJ kick to touch, needs to better.

    Thought Marmion was outstanding and got the better of Pienaar, while Craig and Bundee neutralised McCloskey and Marshall, and vice versa for Ulster.

    Disappointing evening but sometimes you just see the difference in team getting better and the team better for 3/4 seasons now.

    Marmion should be at least Ireland's back up 9. Class player. Aki missed the tackle on Marshall that led to the try. He was bushed by then, tackling McCloskey. Marshall played well but stupid, stupid yellow. A trip like that used to be an instant red card. Still should in my view. Ulster were made to play badly and won without ever looking like losing. The few co-ordinated bit's of bacl play came from Ulster when they woke up. Still it must have been difficult. The ball must have been like an eel to play with and the pitch looked heavy underfoot. When both teams return to full strength they will be better.

    p.s. I can see why Healy isn't in Schmidt's radar. He has pace that will make him dangerous but little else.....like Fion Carr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Deserved win for Ulster. They could have scored the try earlier had Fitzgibbon not impeded Trimble, he had an ocean of space.


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    Think Connacht have flattered to deceive a bit this season and could be a tough run in from here. Should have just enough in the bank for decent shot at top 6.

    Ulster were poor in attack but defensively excellent. They we're able to go for the jugular when it counted.

    Connacht looked very unimaginative today despite dominating proceedings in the first half. Aki stood out though, some form he's in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    It will sound harsh, but if Connacht want to be really taken seriously, you can't be dominating a home game in territory and possession and come away with 3 points for the whole 80 minutes. Only really looked like scoring a try in the opening 20 minutes or so. Aside from the 10/12 issues, I think there were too many of the forwards standing at 2nd or 3rd receiver and just shovelling the ball on sideways.

    It will be a great test of the Connacht character to make sure you finish in the top 6 or whatever it is to qualify for Europe, and it would be nice and deserved if you did so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,470 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    its_phil wrote: »
    Remember Jaco when the two boys called Ulster to be the kicking teams and Connacht the beautiful running west of Ireland All Blacks.

    Hate that we lost but enjoyed those predictions at FT, because one team kicked ball and did it awfully and that team wasn't wearing white.

    Don't know the stats but it didn't feel like Connacht kicked all that much. They generally don't under Lam.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    Connaught had two scoring opportunities on the wing but the outside pass was never given. Think TOH was one of the guilty parties...let off for ulster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭flouncer


    Deserved win for Ulster. They could have scored the try earlier had Fitzgibbon not impeded Trimble, he had an ocean of space.
    feckin munster version of the game :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    jacothelad wrote: »
    p.s. I can see why Healy isn't in Schmidt's radar. He has pace that will make him dangerous but little else.....like Fion Carr Craig Gilroy

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    shuffol wrote: »
    :D

    Lol...

    Gilroy is not in the ire squad cause he scores too often. He's needs to be a bit more headless a not score in a world class manor... ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    A winger who could eventually be on Joe's radar is Rory Scholes. I've been very impressed by him. He still has a way to go in terms of awareness and things like that but the raw materials are definitely there. It's good news for Ulster given Trimble and Bowe are the wrong side of 30, albeit Trimble is showing few signs of dotage.

    By the way I have to hold my hands up on the Marshall YC, I defended him a bit last night saying it wasn't clear cut. In my defence I was a bit misty eyed at the time, having seen it again with a clearer head he was probably quite lucky to only get a yellow. A dumb moment in an otherwise very strong performance by Marshall.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,256 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It is somewhat frustrating to see Williams put in these great shifts each week. Where has this been the past few years?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    awec wrote: »
    It is somewhat frustrating to see Williams put in these great shifts each week. Where has this been the past few years?

    Don't worry, world class back row on his way...;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    Williams is one of the most enjoyable players to watch in rugby IMO and it's great to see him playing so well, I still fear that in a big game his discipline is liable to cost points though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    Scholes went well yesterday...reminds me of a young Trimble. Great to see


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    jacothelad wrote: »

    p.s. I can see why Healy isn't in Schmidt's radar. He has pace that will make him dangerous but little else.....like Fion Carr.

    Not sure what he was thinking with the kick ahead at the end of the game, he got lucky Trimble fouled him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    Scholes went well yesterday...reminds me of a young Trimble. Great to see

    He reminds more of Tommy!

    A hybrid of the two would do nicely!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Not sure what he was thinking with the kick ahead at the end of the game, he got lucky Trimble fouled him.

    In fairness it usually works for him, he has created a habit of collecting his own grubber kicks- the ground was much too soft for him to be trying that though last night.
    I felt sorry for him that he happened to have his worse game in memory while Joe was in the stands

    Agree that Scholes looks like a quality player - the Ulster Academy continues their conveyor belt of producing exciting backs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭flouncer


    awec wrote: »
    Rubbish game, good result
    Ulster did what they needed to do. Starve Connacht. Credit to les kiss. Its all about the result.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Triumvirate


    A lot of similarities between Connacht and Munster's respective showings this weekend. Both had lots of the ball and both toothless with it, spurning the few kicks at goal they had.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    A lot of similarities between Connacht and Munster's respective showings this weekend. Both had lots of the ball and both toothless with it, spurning the few kicks at goal they had.

    Connacht did it once from left touchline with a left footed kicker.

    Not even comparable performances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    its_phil wrote: »
    Connacht did it once from left touchline with a left footed kicker.

    Not even comparable performances.

    Ronaldson missed a second kick you may have rightly erased from your memory in second half - was even more of a gimme than Scannells miss last night


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Ronaldson missed a second kick you may have rightly erased from your memory in second half - was even more of a gimme than Scannells miss last night

    Talking about spurning kicks at goal. Spurning is to reject, we didn't reject much of anything. We missed shockers as opposed to turning them down, big difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Triumvirate


    Connacht went to touch at least once in the second half when they could have gone for the posts. McGinty missed touch from a penalty just inside Ulster's half, straight in front when the score was 3-3 in the closing stages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Connacht went to touch at least once in the second half when they could have gone for the posts. McGinty missed touch from a penalty just inside Ulster's half, straight in front when the score was 3-3 in the closing stages.

    That penalty was between the Connacht 10m line and 22, well inside their own half. Would have been some kick if he'd gone for the posts! Even a penalty outside 50m is rarely attempted by any team in those conditions


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Connacht went to touch at least once in the second half when they could have gone for the posts. McGinty missed touch from a penalty just inside Ulster's half, straight in front when the score was 3-3 in the closing stages.

    Not exactly a gimme and the only one with that range is Darragh Leader. Zero wind for aid.

    It was actually inside our own half. 1:33:25 will show you that.

    Do you seriously think we're going to get that


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vav4hUGVWg0


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Triumvirate


    Perhaps I'm remembering it incorrectly. There were certainly at least two in the opening quarter where Connacht went down the line though in the Ulster half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    Perhaps I'm remembering it incorrectly. There were certainly at least two in the opening quarter where Connacht went down the line though in the Ulster half.

    Yeah in The opening 10 there were 2 penalties in a row the first one was fairly far out but the second was kickable. The pack were making yards for fun with the maul but you need to go for the posts early on. Keep the scoreboard ticking over


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Triumvirate


    Zzippy wrote:
    That penalty was between the Connacht 10m line and 22, well inside their own half. Would have been some kick if he'd gone for the posts! Even a penalty outside 50m is rarely attempted by any team in those conditions

    I'm not actually remembering it incorrectly. He kicked it from inside Ulster's half.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Triumvirate


    its_phil wrote:
    Do you seriously think we're going to get that

    Probably not but given the time and score, it was worth a pop. It was dead in front. A good connection and it had a chance.

    As I said, there were other penalties turned down in favour of kicking to touch also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Probably not but given the time and score, it was worth a pop. It was dead in front. A good connection and it had a chance.

    As I said, there were other penalties turned down in favour of kicking to touch also.

    If the kickers thought they had the distance they would grab it and take it. But a 50m kick with zero wind? They didn't fancy it and no one would fancy them for it.

    As you said, but when were they? I genuinely don't remember. Ulster conceded 11 penalties. Below are the penalties I remember.

    First penalty was just before Healy tackle on Trimble in air at a scrum.Two in the first 10 minutes which we turned down with a left footed kicker on left hand side of pitch, not a gimme. Three penalties which we kicked at goal. Penalty won inside our half that Jack kicked out for HT. One penalty that AJ missed to touch. One penalty at 80 minutes which we kicked to touch from our own 22.

    Can you tell me where the other two were from kickable positions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭Triumvirate


    The two in the opening 10 minutes were both clearly kickable positions. I never mentioned "gimme" kicks. Just because they're on the wrong side for a left footed kicker does not mean they should be turned down. The first was nearly identical to where Madigan slotted his penalty against Munster, well inside the Ulster half. The second was a good opportunity inside the 22 regardless of it being on the wrong side of the posts for a left footed kicker. The late one was a shot to nothing and well worth taking given the circumstances.

    All three of the penalties that were passed over were realistic chances to kick at goal and the one inside the 22, in particular, should have been taken although I'm surprised they didn't have a pop on the late one either given it was 3-3 with 11 minutes left in the game and scores were clearly very hard to come by.


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