Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

ED E · 10-12-2015 07:57PM

You may be in the know more than I but Huawei, eirs best buds in their NGA ventures, have OLTs in production for a while.

SmartAX MA5818, MA5821, MA5822, and MA5898 are multi-service 10G Passive Optical Network (PON) access devices to enhance Fiber-To-The-Building (FTTB) and Fiber-To-The-Curb (FTTC) high-bandwidth services.

ECO_Mental · 10-12-2015 09:11PM

PFL wrote: »

Hi, just got the 1GB FTTH installed today - delighted. Just wondering as free calls to landline and mobiles are included, how long did it take for the line to activate and also for speeds to ramp up, currently getting about 200MB

Mine was up fairly fast, almost straight away. The tech was still there and I was reading 650mb

mass_debater · 10-12-2015 09:13PM

PFL wrote: »

Hi, just got the 1GB FTTH installed today - delighted. Just wondering as free calls to landline and mobiles are included, how long did it take for the line to activate and also for speeds to ramp up, currently getting about 200MB

What are the specs of the device you're testing on? How are you testing? And how are you connected?

PFL · 10-12-2015 11:53PM

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Mine was up fairly fast, almost straight away. The tech was still there and I was reading 650mb

Can I ask about the phone line / VOIP, was it enabled or how long did it take to enable?

PFL · 10-12-2015 11:54PM

mass_debater wrote: »

What are the specs of the device you're testing on? How are you testing? And how are you connected?

Testing using the speed test app over wireless?

mass_debater · 11-12-2015 12:05AM

PFL wrote: »

Testing using the speed test app over wireless?

You're doing well, that is the maximum you will get over wireless. You'll need to be connected by cable, have gigabit capable port and need to have a device fast enough for gigabit to get full speed. Even then the speedtest servers will have problems giving an accurate reading.

ECO_Mental · 11-12-2015 08:20AM

PFL wrote: »

Can I ask about the phone line / VOIP, was it enabled or how long did it take to enable?

Haven't used it at all, have not used a land line at home in ten years ðŸ˜Š

sibergoth · 11-12-2015 08:53AM

mass_debater wrote: »

You're doing well, that is the maximum you will get over wireless. You'll need to be connected by cable, have gigabit capable port and need to have a device fast enough for gigabit to get full speed. Even then the speedtest servers will have problems giving an accurate reading.

I agree that connection via ethernet will give the best results, but it isn't true to say that the maximum speed you'll get on wifi is 200Mbps... 802.11ac has a theoretical maximum of 1.3Gbps

"1.3 gigabits per second (Gbps) is the speed most commonly cited as the 802.11ac standard. This translates to 166 megabytes per second (MBps) or 1331 megabits per second (Mbps). It is vastly quicker than the 450Mbit per second (0.45Gbps) headline speeds quoted on the highest performing 802.11n routers.May 11, 2015"

ctlsleh · 11-12-2015 10:18AM

ED E wrote: »

You may be in the know more than I but Huawei, eirs best buds in their NGA ventures, have OLTs in production for a while.

I agree, but i while XGPON has been around for a while, and while i apprecaite Huawei can support it, it hasn't been widely deployed in the world.
Most operators are waiting for NGPON2 standard which can offer full symmetrical 10G/10G to subscribers (XGPON is not symetrical its 10G/1G), even there, NGPON2 will be targetted at mainly enterprise customers rather than residential, the benefit of NGPON over dedcated 10G ports being that NGPON2 and GPON can co-exist on the same fiber. The only place i know of in the world where XGPON is being offered to residential customers is HongKong, it was never widely taken up in the market. NGPON2 will be the winner from a technology selection perspective.

PFL · 11-12-2015 10:47AM

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Haven't used it at all, have not used a land line at home in ten years ðŸ˜Š

I'm the same myself, we have a timber frame house and the mobile reception is patchy despite living in town.

The 1GB bundle includes free calls to national and mobile numbers, figure it justifies putting the phone back in

pegasus1 · 11-12-2015 02:26PM

PFL wrote: »

I'm the same myself, we have a timber frame house and the mobile reception is patchy despite living in town.

The 1GB bundle includes free calls to national and mobile numbers, figure it justifies putting the phone back in

hope you don't have an old style phone..:D

mass_debater · 11-12-2015 06:02PM

sibergoth wrote: »

I agree that connection via ethernet will give the best results, but it isn't true to say that the maximum speed you'll get on wifi is 200Mbps... 802.11ac has a theoretical maximum of 1.3Gbps

"1.3 gigabits per second (Gbps) is the speed most commonly cited as the 802.11ac standard. This translates to 166 megabytes per second (MBps) or 1331 megabits per second (Mbps). It is vastly quicker than the 450Mbit per second (0.45Gbps) headline speeds quoted on the highest performing 802.11n routers.May 11, 2015"

There is a huge difference between quoted theoretical speeds and what you'll actually get in real life surroundings with interference and other devices connected. Theoretical speeds are done once, in test conditions, in a lab, in a Faraday cage and with only one device connected. Nobody got 450mbit over wireless n, you'll struggle to get much more than 150mbit. This is a cheap as chips Huawei wireless modem, it's actual speed will not be much over 200mbit in real world speeds and at that they are doing very well

sibergoth · 11-12-2015 10:59PM

mass_debater wrote: »

Theoretical speeds are done once, in test conditions, in a lab, in a Faraday cage and with only one device connected.

A tad exaggerated...
I've worked in an anechoic chamber. Tests are done more than once... !

guil · 12-12-2015 02:40AM

sibergoth wrote: »

A tad exaggerated...
I've worked in an anechoic chamber. Tests are done more than once... !

It's still tested in perfect conditions.

pegasus1 · 12-12-2015 09:43AM

It allso can be limited speed wise due to how the fibre was pulled....bend it too much and speed is reduced...

PFL · 12-12-2015 11:29AM

pegasus1 wrote: »

hope you don't have an old style phone..:D

Sure they're retro now...

ECO_Mental · 12-12-2015 12:03PM

Quick question and excuse my ignorance but can I just swap put my f2000 for a better router with out all this bridging stuff. Is the f2000 only acting as a router anyway since the ONT connects into the WAN.

ED E · 12-12-2015 01:07PM

As long as you can set the WAN VLAN ID on the new unit you sure can.

dubmick · 17-12-2015 12:43PM

anyone know if FTTH is being rolled out in Balrothery / Balbriggan? Eir were in my estate on Tuesday, bloke mentioned to my wife that they were installing faster broadband. We already have fibre.

Nollog · 17-12-2015 02:52PM

dubmick wrote: »

anyone know if FTTH is being rolled out in Balrothery / Balbriggan? Eir were in my estate on Tuesday, bloke mentioned to my wife that they were installing faster broadband. We already have fibre.

Put in your number sure
https://www.eir.ie/extreme

I think I saw the placename somewhere, my Uncle lives there so it caught my attention.
Ah, it's in the plans yeah... by 2020.
http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/dublin

loyatemu · 17-12-2015 02:58PM

dubmick wrote: »

anyone know if FTTH is being rolled out in Balrothery / Balbriggan? Eir were in my estate on Tuesday, bloke mentioned to my wife that they were installing faster broadband. We already have fibre.

Balbriggan is on the list of the first 19 towns:
https://www.eir.ie/pressroom/eircom-Selects-Huawei-for-Fibre-to-the-Home/

KOR101 · 18-12-2015 06:22PM

dubmick wrote: »

anyone know if FTTH is being rolled out in Balrothery / Balbriggan? Eir were in my estate on Tuesday, bloke mentioned to my wife that they were installing faster broadband. We already have fibre.

SIRO too for Balbriggan. I'm hoping for a better product from them.

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/broadband-plan-esb-vodafone-1550088-Jul2014/

dubmick · 20-12-2015 03:04PM

It will be years before SIRO will be in Balbriggan unfortunately

Deagol · 20-12-2015 03:19PM

dubmick wrote: »

It will be years before SIRO will be in Balbriggan unfortunately

Source?

The Cush · 15-01-2016 02:02AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Article in last Sunday's Sunday Times newspaper business section titled "Eir kept rivals in the dark over fibre plan"

http://www.comreg.ie/publications/notification_of_non-compliance_sent_to_eir.583.105046.p.html

THE communications regulator ComReg has ruled Eir, formerly known as Eircom, discriminated against rival operators by keeping them in the dark over its plans to roll out fibre broadband to homes.

Eir is the incumbent and dominant player in the telecommunications market. It is obliged to ensure that it does not give its retail business any advantage over rival operators who use its network.

ComReg said last week it had investigated Eir’s adherence to its obligations and found the company provided information to its retail arm about plans to roll out fibre to homes three weeks before other operators. It issued Eir with a finding of non-compliance under the non-discrimination obligations, and may impose a sanction on the company.

Eir said it disagreed with the ComReg finding. “We will be contesting this finding vigorously,” said a spokesman.

Ronan Lupton of the Alternative Operators in the Communications Market group, which represents Sky, Vodafone, BT and Magnet, said "We need more of this from Comreg and more attention to compliance at Eir".

Seperately Comreg are undertaking a wider review or Eir's regulatory compliance after claims it favours its own retail arm. An Eir internal report found 20 areas where it's failing to ensure a level playing field with competitors.
http://www.comreg.ie/publications/eir_s_regulatory_governance_-_comreg_announces_review_of_eir_s_regulatory_governance_model.583.105002.p.html
https://www.eir.ie/regulatoryinformation/regulatory-governance-model/

The same 4 companies have also entered into a formal dispute with Eir over fault repair times for the phone and broadband networks
http://www.comreg.ie/publications/submitted_dispute_document_relating_to_eircom_s_current_generation_access_regulated_contract_terms.583.105001.p.html

Nollog · 15-01-2016 03:43AM

If we knew about it, surely they did too?

Gonzo · 15-01-2016 01:09PM

at least Eir are planning to roll out decent fibre to rural locations that really NEED it, even if theres a few years of a wait, as nobody else seems to even have a plan to bring decent broadband. Don't see anything wrong with it in the land of dial-up/adsl/dongles/wisps and satellite.

The Cush · 24-01-2016 09:38PM

The Cush wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
Article in last Sunday's Sunday Times newspaper business section titled "Eir kept rivals in the dark over fibre plan"

http://www.comreg.ie/publications/notification_of_non-compliance_sent_to_eir.583.105046.p.html

Members of ALTO (Alternative Operators in the Communications Market) are meeting with the Department of Communications this Tuesday regarding its dispute with Eir.

ALTO members - BT, ESB Telecoms, Sky, Vodafone, Three, Virgin Media, Magnet, Colt Telecom and Verizon

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/telcos-demand-faster-reform-as-battle-with-eir-escalates-34390942.html

Rattlehead_ie · 26-01-2016 12:09PM

ED E wrote: »

As long as you can set the WAN VLAN ID on the new unit you sure can.

Is it a particular VLAN ID needed. I suspect VLAN10....going to try and get a Juniper SRX working on an Eir line later today

ED E · 26-01-2016 01:08PM

Rattlehead_ie wrote: »

Is it a particular VLAN ID needed. I suspect VLAN10....going to try and get a Juniper SRX working on an Eir line later today

AFAIK yes, all the residential/SME traffic is over VLAN10, if you're a corporate customer there may be others in use but I've only seen mention of 10.

Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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