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Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Deagol


    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    By the way xbox one now up to around 750Mb;). Still working off my crappy laptop need to check it with the missues top of the range i7 Laptop

    Nothing personal but............................. I hate you ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    The Fiber coming out of the skirting is just one strand from a larger cable they just stripped it back behind the skirting.
    Can you explain what that means? Are you saying that the larger cable with multiple strands runs into your house, and that in the future more of those strands could easily be used to expand your bandwidth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Can you explain what that means? Are you saying that the larger cable with multiple strands runs into your house, and that in the future more of those strands could easily be used to expand your bandwidth?


    I didn't see it myself when they actually pulled it today but swoofer who got his install done last week said that there were two fibers in the cable they actually pull to your house but they only use one of them. I suppose the other is back up or maybe in future one for up and one for down imagine that...

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    I didn't see it myself when they actually pulled it today but swoofer who got his install done last week said that there were two fibers in the cable they actually pull to your house but they only use one of them. I suppose the other is back up or maybe in future one for up and one for down imagine that...
    Bit confused, although I guess even with one fibre, there are technologies for getting even greater speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,229 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Bit confused, although I guess even with one fibre, there are technologies for getting even greater speed.

    The lads here (ED E, mass_debater etc.) have posted here previously that if faster tech is rolled out (10GPON, 40GPON etc.) the same fibre cable can be used, only the equipment at each end needs changing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,095 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    With the copper network it was normal to run a 4 wire drop to support a 2nd line, and pairs can be swapped in cases of fault. Not illogical to run a pair into the premises, man hours are expensive and glass is cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,044 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    ED E wrote: »
    With the copper network it was normal to run a 4 wire drop to support a 2nd line, and pairs can be swapped in cases of fault. Not illogical to run a pair into the premises, man hours are expensive and glass is cheap.
    That's all this is about. The fibre itself costs almost nothing compared to the labour costs, so very sensible to always run a backup in at the same time.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Ive yet to experience real world experience on an internet connection faster than 22 megs and that was on wifi in a hotel in Ireland. The difference between what I have 9 megs and 22 megs is huge. When i was on 22 megs I just couldn't get over how good it is but at the same time I felt totally satisfied that there is no need for anything faster at this current time. After 24 megs it's just a case of diminishing returns. Going from 120MB/s to 240MB/s probably feels the same as going from 6 meg to 7 meg.

    Yes going from 8Mb/s to 16Mb/s was incredible. Going from 16 to 120 was nice, but not earth shattering. Going from 120 to 240 was pretty much unnoticeable outside of speed tests.

    However what really benefited from the later upgrades was the upload speed.

    Going from 16m/650k to 120/12 in turns of upload speed was fantastic and liberating (cloud backups, youtube uploads, etc.) and upgrading to 240/24 was really nice too.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    bk wrote: »

    The take up is fairly small as well, the lad installing mine said he has only done 12.... And as far as I know he is the only one doing them in cork we are only talking about 1or2 a week being installed in cork

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    The take up is fairly small as well, the lad installing mine said he has only done 12.... And as far as I know he is the only one doing them in cork we are only talking about 1or2 a week being installed in cork

    Once they eventually get into rural areas I'd say that take up might increase...

    It's the upload that kills me on ADSL - 384k... Even having ADSL2 would be 512k!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    MBSnr wrote: »
    Once they eventually get into rural areas I'd say that take up might increase...

    It's the upload that kills me on ADSL - 384k... Even having ADSL2 would be 512k!

    Yeah, I was already on 85/20mb and was very good. Me upgrading to 1Gb was me wanting it not exactly needing it. If you are out in the countryside and only getting 1-2mb you would Bite the hand off Eir to get FTTH

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,746 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    yeah once Eir eventually start working & activating the blue lines, FTTH sales will skyrocket. Almost every house on our road will upgrade immediately once it's available. Most people who are on FTTC with more than 40 meg are happy enough for the next few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭MackMack


    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    The take up is fairly small as well, the lad installing mine said he has only done 12.... And as far as I know he is the only one doing them in cork we are only talking about 1or2 a week being installed in cork

    If they installed FTTH in places that had crap BB instead of places like Douglas that already have 240meg with UPC then the uptake would be slightly larger :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Strawberry HillBilly


    MackMack wrote: »
    If they installed FTTH in places that had crap BB instead of places like Douglas that already have 240meg with UPC then the uptake would be slightly larger :p

    Maybe just maybe they might cop on to that and roll out where it is actually needed and people are mad to get decent broadband. Would be brave and counterintuitive but would probably be extremely successful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,095 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Why would they do it now when the government will pay for it in just over a year ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    MackMack wrote: »
    If they installed FTTH in places that had crap BB instead of places like Douglas that already have 240meg with UPC then the uptake would be slightly larger :p

    That saying, dragging miles and miles of fibre for a couple of house or pulling a few hundred meters and service 40 50 houses and already have 80% of the infrastructure in place. Cost benefit will win out everyday

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Gonzo wrote: »
    yeah once Eir eventually start working & activating the blue lines, FTTH sales will skyrocket. Almost every house on our road will upgrade immediately once it's available. Most people who are on FTTC with more than 40 meg are happy enough for the next few years.

    I guess that's the question that hasn't been answered when do they start work on those blue lines? I'm sick of waiting. As people already stated here it's those people who don't have > 10/20mb that really want the upgrade at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,940 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    damienirel wrote: »
    I guess that's the question that hasn't been answered when do they start work on those blue lines? I'm sick of waiting. As people already stated here it's those people who don't have > 10/20mb that really want the upgrade at the moment.

    Commercial considerations will influence what and when.
    We just have to have some (more) patience ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭markmurphy


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    ping 8ms! Can FTTH do better?

    I see its 17 euro more a month...for 1 GIG ! ya be mad not to get it!

    Can't see the pings getting much better though.

    Have to put up with my crap connection till then! lol!

    M.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,095 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Below ~30ms ping really doesnt matter as its faster than your own reaction times.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,746 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    damienirel wrote: »
    I guess that's the question that hasn't been answered when do they start work on those blue lines? I'm sick of waiting. As people already stated here it's those people who don't have > 10/20mb that really want the upgrade at the moment.

    this is why I dont get why they are starting to roll out to areas that are already up to their necks in choice of fast fibre from Eir, UPC etc. Those areas will see only very small uptake of FTTH for now as most customers are happy with what they have and don't wish to spent extra on getting FTTH when they are already perfectly happy with UPC/FTTC from Eircom.
    The blue lines are full of people who are just begging for decent broadband, they should really start those soon rather than waiting another 2 years. The blue lines will be very successful for Eir once they start rolling it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,095 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Gonzo wrote: »
    this is why I dont get why they are starting to roll out to areas that are already up to their necks in choice of fast fibre from Eir, UPC etc. Those areas will see only very small uptake of FTTH for now as most customers are happy with what they have and don't wish to spent extra on getting FTTH when they are already perfectly happy with UPC/FTTC from Eircom.
    The blue lines are full of people who are just begging for decent broadband, they should really start those soon rather than waiting another 2 years. The blue lines will be very successful for Eir once they start rolling it out.

    Just a few posts back
    ED E wrote: »
    Why would they do it now when the government will pay for it in just over a year ;)


    They're taking the easy stuff now before the ESB gets it, its a race to get the most profitable areas. Then the NBP money will provide for the sticks where they make a loss(the cities are already subsidising your broadband even if its sh1tty).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭rob808


    markmurphy wrote: »
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    ping 8ms! Can FTTH do better?

    I see its 17 euro more a month...for 1 GIG ! ya be mad not to get it!

    Can't see the pings getting much better though.

    Have to put up with my crap connection till then! lol!

    M.
    I think your grand there for awhile with your 40mb broadband the blue are mainly for people out in stick stuck on adsl broadband ,fixed wireless because people in FTTC areas kinda have fibre. I think eir did blue line through FTTC areas because they use the exchange as backbone for the FTTH to the rural homes.
    I say more than likely you will get FTTH because siro in phase 2 targeting 320 towns and villages and eir more than likely will try match them it just probably won't start till 2018.
    Then NBP start mainly in early 2017 and if eir and siro win good bit of that could slow down any plans for FTTC areas to upgrade to FTTH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Ah now, some of you lads don't know how good yous have it!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    chris_ie wrote: »
    Ah now, some of you lads don't know how good yous have it!!

    4865687630.png

    I have never noticed that before but speed test say you are slower than 77%, normally they would say you are "faster" than 23% of the population. Is it rubbing salt the wound, bastards...:(.

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭rob808


    ECO_Mental wrote: »
    I have never noticed that before but speed test say you are slower than 77%, normally they would say you are "faster" than 23% of the population. Is it rubbing salt the wound, bastards...:(.
    It probably because of upload being higher than most adsl doh that download man that bad I have 4mb myself feel sorry for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Its just been like that today. Usually around 1-3mb, not that long ago 10-15mb was the norm, service has gone way downhill. Anyways dont wanna derail the thread!

    FTTH seems so far away at the moment. Hope things get moving sooner rather than later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭markmurphy


    chris_ie wrote: »
    Ah now, some of you lads don't know how good yous have it!!

    4865687630.png

    Plan a: insure house....burn house down! move house to faster area ! hahah!

    funny thing is the next door neighbour only can get 18 meg! hee hee! but I share mine to anyone wants it. I just have torrents and porn blocked. Course ya could go vpn. But have VPN installed on router anyway for extra safety.

    mark.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭damienirel


    ED E wrote: »
    Just a few posts back

    They're taking the easy stuff now before the ESB gets it, its a race to get the most profitable areas. Then the NBP money will provide for the sticks where they make a loss(the cities are already subsidising your broadband even if its sh1tty).

    Yeah they aren't interested in providing a service they're interested in collecting the cash - that backfires you know.


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