whats the weather like in your area?

Kovu · 07-12-2015 11:35AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Kovu, please tell me you don't have a false accent

Ah Sam, when I speak it's like the voices of ten thousand angels have descended from the heavens to sing lullabies in your dreams.

Reggie. · 07-12-2015 11:53AM

Kovu wrote: »

Ah Sam, when I speak it's like the voices of ten thousand angels have descended from the heavens to sing lullabies in your dreams.

Would that be the screams as they fall?????

Kovu · 07-12-2015 12:04PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Would that be the screams as they fall?????

Sure isn't Lucifer an angel that was banished from heaven

Weatherwise I heard a few miles from here that a lads slatted shed was completely flooded out, all the bales in the yard covered in water. Never happened before. Somebody must have cleaned out the river further up or something and it flowed down faster than the lower part could take, that caused flooding with neighbours land here, we cleaned the river this summer. Whoopsie :pac:

_Brian · 07-12-2015 12:13PM

Rain creeping back in here now in Cavan, like we haven't had enough

ABlur · 07-12-2015 01:06PM

Great drying! Will be worried about drought if we don't get some rain!!ðŸ˜…

Sam Kade · 07-12-2015 01:21PM

Kovu wrote: »

Ah Sam, when I speak it's like the voices of ten thousand angels have descended from the heavens to sing lullabies in your dreams.

Wow, that's poetry in motion

naughto · 07-12-2015 02:27PM

Kovu wrote: »

Ah Sam, when I speak it's like the voices of ten thousand angels have descended from the heavens to sing lullabies in your dreams.

It's the voices of ten thousand angels being squeezed more like it.
Pissing rain here the last hour very dark aswell

WheatenBriar · 07-12-2015 05:47PM

Very heavy this past 3 hrs with hail mixed in

sandydan · 07-12-2015 08:17PM

mixed pattern around here, heavy showers than dry periods with black skies and then clearing , very cold as well

whelan2 · 07-12-2015 08:57PM

very dull and dark all day, very little rain

Capercaillie · 07-12-2015 09:09PM

Most farmland in area flooded. Most of the blanket bogs in the area have been heavily cut over last 20 years. If intact they would have held the water and released it slowly.

Reggie. · 07-12-2015 09:15PM

Capercaillie wrote: »

Most farmland in area flooded. Most of the blanket bogs in the area have been heavily cut over last 20 years. If intact they would have held the water and released it slowly.

The flooding would have come from the water table and rivers. Bogs wouldn't make much of a difference there

Suckler · 08-12-2015 12:12PM

Reggie. wrote: »

The flooding would have come from the water table and rivers. Bogs wouldn't make much of a difference there

Bogs hold the water thus preventing it from going straight to rivers etc. They make a big difference.

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 03:58PM

Suckler wrote: »

Bogs hold the water thus preventing it from going straight to rivers etc. They make a big difference.

Can't agree with that around here as the drains from our bogs are like waterfalls at the minute. Lough ennell is up around 4ft

Capercaillie · 08-12-2015 04:01PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Can't agree with that around here as the drains from our bogs are like waterfalls at the minute. Lough ennell is up around 4ft

The drains are draining the bog and increasing flow from them!

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 04:02PM

Capercaillie wrote: »

The drains are draining the bog and increasing flow from them!

Whatever ya think lads

Kovu · 08-12-2015 04:15PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Whatever ya think lads

Have to agree with Capercaillie here, if the drains weren't in place the bogs act like a sponge and soak everything up. The forced cuts cause the higher area of bog to release water into the drain and lead to floods.

sandydan · 08-12-2015 06:22PM

Kovu wrote: »

Have to agree with Capercaillie here, if the drains weren't in place the bogs act like a sponge and soak everything up. The forced cuts cause the higher area of bog to release water into the drain and lead to floods.

the water is over big level near here,bog wont make a difference until it drops to bog level imo
wintery bitterly cold showers today, further rain to come and roads will flood instantly

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 08:02PM

Kovu wrote: »

Have to agree with Capercaillie here, if the drains weren't in place the bogs act like a sponge and soak everything up. The forced cuts cause the higher area of bog to release water into the drain and lead to floods.

So if it rains over say a 20 mile radius or 20 miles away and the river overflows at your area due to your area being it's weak spot. You think the bog will save you from flooding?

No river flows into a bog.

Flood water isn't from your area usually. It always travels from somewhere else and pools in the plains. A bog won't be the saviour of an area. It's madness to think that if a bog was left untouched that it would save an area from flooding

Capercaillie · 08-12-2015 08:11PM

Reggie. wrote: »

So if it rains over say a 20 mile radius or 20 miles away and the river overflows at your area due to your area being it's weak spot. You think the bog will save you from flooding?

No river flows into a bog.

Flood water isn't from your area usually. It always travels from somewhere else and pools in the plains. A bog won't be the saviour of an area. It's madness to think that if a bog was left untouched that it would save an area from flooding

95% of the midland raised bogs have been destroyed. Bogs can hold huge amount of extra water. Excess water from heavy rain is slowly released and eventually enters river systems. On well drained lowland farmland, the water holding capacity is low. Following heavy rainfall water enters the river system quickly. You have a huge amount of water and resultant flooding.

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 08:14PM

Capercaillie wrote: »

95% of the midland raised bogs have been destroyed. Bogs can hold huge amount of extra water. Excess water from heavy rain is slowly released and eventually enters river systems. On well drained lowland farmland, the water holding capacity is low. Following heavy rainfall water enters the river system quickly. You have a huge amount of water and resultant flooding.

All our bogs in westmeath are on high ground here.all lakes and rivers are well below thier elevation

Hense the name raised bogs

Capercaillie · 08-12-2015 08:16PM

Reggie. wrote: »

All our bogs in westmeath are on high ground here.all lakes and rivers are well below thier elevation

Hense the name raised bogs

If the raised bog is destroyed, what happens the water after severe heavy rain?

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 08:17PM

Capercaillie wrote: »

If the raised bog is destroyed, what happens the water after severe heavy rain?

No raise bog destroyed here.

In order for the bog to take any serious amount of water into it around here the area around it has to flood first

Kovu · 08-12-2015 08:20PM

Reggie. wrote: »

So if it rains over say a 20 mile radius or 20 miles away and the river overflows at your area due to your area being it's weak spot. You think the bog will save you from flooding?

No river flows into a bog.

Flood water isn't from your area usually. It always travels from somewhere else and pools in the plains. A bog won't be the saviour of an area. It's madness to think that if a bog was left untouched that it would save an area from flooding

No it won't save every place from flooding, there are different peat types same as soil types. The mossy type would slowly release the water over a period of time. If such a bog is drained it loses the ability to soak up the water as the moss and other natural vegetation are killed off. The water will then run off into the drainage areas and exit the area faster causing flash flooding.
Drainage to a small area of bog can have impact further down a riverline if it's draining into a river or stream that it wasn't before. I'm not saying that it causes the flooding but it certainly has some impact.

Capercaillie · 08-12-2015 08:23PM

Reggie. wrote: »

No raise bog destroyed here.

In order for the bog to take any serious amount of water into it around here the area around it has to flood first

95% of raised bogs have been destroyed in this Country. The 5% that are left are in the SAC/NHA network, but most of them are been actively drained/cut/destroyed. A degraded bog/destroyed bog is one which the ability of the sphagnum mosses to grow and actively produce peat has been compromised. The drains in your bog, dry out the bog and inhibit peat formation.

Suckler · 08-12-2015 08:24PM

Reggie. wrote: »

No raise bog destroyed here.

http://www.npws.ie/sites/default/files/protected-sites/synopsis/SY001725.pdf

Second paragraph.

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 08:35PM

Suckler wrote: »

http://www.npws.ie/sites/default/files/protected-sites/synopsis/SY001725.pdf

Second paragraph.

Can't see how that's got to do with this flooding. Sure it may at one time been a larger area but as long as I can remember 30+ years the bog is nearly the same size throughout my life. so any reclaiming for agriculture is well before my time and it's not something that's happened in the last few years that could cause catastrophic flooding. Never had major flooding here ever thankfully.

So as far as I'm concerned in my area this so called massive destruction of bog land that we are doing by cutting our own little bit of turf isn't causing all these floods.

Now capercaillie from your past history I know your a campaigner to have all bogs closed but you'll have to get a better stick than that nonsense. Enough said.

Capercaillie · 08-12-2015 08:41PM

Reggie. wrote: »

No raise bog destroyed here.

In order for the bog to take any serious amount of water into it around here the area around it has to flood first

Suckler wrote: »

http://www.npws.ie/sites/default/files/protected-sites/synopsis/SY001725.pdf

Second paragraph.

Reggie. wrote: »

Can't see how that's got to do with this flooding. Sure it may at one time been a larger area but as long as I can remember 30+ years the bog is nearly the same size throughout my life. so any reclaiming for agriculture is well before my time and it's not something that's happened in the last few years that could cause catastrophic flooding. Never had major flooding here ever thankfully.

So as far as I'm concerned in my area this so called massive destruction of bog land that we are doing by cutting our own little bit of turf isn't causing all these floods.

Now cap from your past history I know your a campaigner to have all bogs closed but you'll have to get a better stick than that nonsense. Enough said.

That link would suggest the your bog is in a poor condition. Extensive drainage is drying out the bog!

Reggie. · 08-12-2015 08:43PM

Capercaillie wrote: »

That link would suggest the your bog is in a poor condition. Extensive drainage is drying out the bog!

All drainage leads back into an used part of the bog. No water drains out. Very little of that bog is cut for turf. A very large area is unused

Don't be making assumptions

pedigree 6 · 08-12-2015 08:44PM

You're calling the bogs a sponge.
If the sponge is full of water and not allowed dry out then water will just run off anyway. In England they're blocking drains and the sponge is constantly full of water so any rain that falls just runs off or creates a landslide.
I think our sponges were already full of water before this rain came.

What needs to happen is any land flooded now should be mapped and then don't allow any new buildings on this land or if they want to build, raise the height of the buildings above the flood level and add on a bit higher to be sure.

whats the weather like in your area?

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