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Milked out · 04-12-2015 06:12PM

Kovu wrote: »

I've no problem copying it to a new thread of it's own. I just don't know what to call it......BG2.0's Ramblings? BG2.0's DD's?

Give me a title BG!

Soil management thread?

Kovu · 04-12-2015 06:15PM

Milked out wrote: »

Soil management thread?

Sure I'll start with that and can change if needs be.

kowtow · 04-12-2015 06:43PM

Kovu wrote: »

Sure I'll start with that and can change if needs be.

What about

"Microbiopolitics 101"

Kovu · 04-12-2015 06:46PM

kowtow wrote: »

What about

"Microbiopolitics 101"

Now both my tooth and brain hurt :pac:

leg wax · 05-12-2015 02:16PM

6 more got so happy out, good crowd around the ring.

stanflt · 05-12-2015 02:27PM

leg wax wrote: »

6 more got so happy out, good crowd around the ring.

Is there Good value ringside ????

kowtow · 05-12-2015 02:39PM

does anyone still have an open slurry tank with a ramp on one side of it, and if so - is it practical to use the side with the ramp as a dung stead (not for much straw, but for calving pens and the odd bucket of silage laden slurry...) - or does it cause too many problems with pumps & agitators?

There would be a fair amount of rainwater going in anyway so I suppose I'm thinking that the pump would pump out the liquid fraction and we can run in with the bucket to clear the last solids in the summer... but we'd need to be able to pump and/or agitate a few times long before we could get in and out with the dung..

Greengrass1 · 05-12-2015 02:55PM

kowtow wrote: »

does anyone still have an open slurry tank with a ramp on one side of it, and if so - is it practical to use the side with the ramp as a dung stead (not for much straw, but for calving pens and the odd bucket of silage laden slurry...) - or does it cause too many problems with pumps & agitators?

There would be a fair amount of rainwater going in anyway so I suppose I'm thinking that the pump would pump out the liquid fraction and we can run in with the bucket to clear the last solids in the summer... but we'd need to be able to pump and/or agitate a few times long before we could get in and out with the dung..

We had a massive open put once. Held 200k gallon I think. Dad used to throw everything onto it. Agitator chopped it up grand

RightTurnClyde · 05-12-2015 03:24PM

kowtow wrote: »

does anyone still have an open slurry tank with a ramp on one side of it, and if so - is it practical to use the side with the ramp as a dung stead (not for much straw, but for calving pens and the odd bucket of silage laden slurry...) - or does it cause too many problems with pumps & agitators?

There would be a fair amount of rainwater going in anyway so I suppose I'm thinking that the pump would pump out the liquid fraction and we can run in with the bucket to clear the last solids in the summer... but we'd need to be able to pump and/or agitate a few times long before we could get in and out with the dung..

We have a 300k gal open tank here, 22m X 22m X 3m with no ramp in,that slurry and washing go into. Started putting all waste silage and rotted dung into it last year. (Didn't try calf pens or calving pens straw) Propellor agitator mixed it up perfectly. Worked out great, did away with the need for a dungsted.

leg wax · 05-12-2015 04:34PM

stanflt wrote: »

Is there Good value ringside ????

heifers with 200+ ebi and 500kgs of milk solids calving in feb made 1300 at the start of the sale and ended up making 1760 mid way .

Greengrass1 · 05-12-2015 04:45PM

leg wax wrote: »

heifers with 200+ ebi and 500kgs of milk solids calving in feb made 1300 at the start of the sale and ended up making 1760 mid way .

There's profit in those heifers for the seller

Greengrass1 · 05-12-2015 06:33PM

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

We have a 300k gal open tank here, 22m X 22m X 3m with no ramp in,that slurry and washing go into. Started putting all waste silage and rotted dung into it last year. (Didn't try calf pens or calving pens straw) Propellor agitator mixed it up perfectly. Worked out great, did away with the need for a dungsted.

Is that tank in the ground or free standing Clyde?
Be serious pressure on walls with that size if a tank

RightTurnClyde · 05-12-2015 06:48PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Is that tank in the ground or free standing Clyde?
Be serious pressure on walls with that size if a tank

Concrete, in the ground. The dept is an issue. It's very difficult to to vaccum the last 18 inches out. There's a slope in the yard around the tank so I'm going to have to make up a 6 inch galv pipe that comes up out of the tank and over the wall and back down to the ground (2 ft down on the low side) that I can then attach a short vac pipe to.

stanflt · 05-12-2015 07:33PM

leg wax wrote: »

heifers with 200+ ebi and 500kgs of milk solids calving in feb made 1300 at the start of the sale and ended up making 1760 mid way .

How do you know they will do 500kg Ms

mahoney_j · 05-12-2015 07:33PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

There's profit in those heifers for the seller

Nothing on it at 1300 ,at 1760'theres a bit .sounds like there was value for buyer anyway at that sale

stanflt · 05-12-2015 07:34PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

There's profit in those heifers for the seller

Not at 1300

Would need to be getting over 1700 to make profit

1500 to rear

And no calve to sell in 2 years

Timmaay · 05-12-2015 07:38PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Nothing on it at 1300 ,at 1760'theres a bit .sounds like there was value for buyer anyway at that sale

Even if say the heifers he sold were just extras with his own? Ie no extra fixed costs and very little extra labour?

mahoney_j · 05-12-2015 07:41PM

stanflt wrote: »

Not at 1300

Would need to be getting over 1700 to make profit

1500 to rear

And no calve to sell in 2 years

Nothing to add to that ,a 200 plus ebi heifer should command that sort of Mula

Greengrass1 · 05-12-2015 07:47PM

Sorry lads. Yeah I ment thr heifers that made 1760.

visatorro · 05-12-2015 08:04PM

1760 is plenty for for a heifer calved down and correct. I think it's only these lunatics of northern buyers coming down and bidding on stock for the sake of it that's driving up price. crazy stuff. you can buy gold too dear aswell.

stretch film · 05-12-2015 08:09PM

visatorro wrote: »

1760 is plenty for for a heifer calved down and correct. I think it's only these lunatics of northern buyers coming down and bidding on stock for the sake of it that's driving up price. crazy stuff. you can buy gold too dear aswell.

How many are you looking for visa ;-)

mahoney_j · 05-12-2015 08:22PM

visatorro wrote: »

1760 is plenty for for a heifer calved down and correct. I think it's only these lunatics of northern buyers coming down and bidding on stock for the sake of it that's driving up price. crazy stuff. you can buy gold too dear aswell.

It costs me circa 1500 to get a heifer to parlour at 23/25 months ,can't see why lads are short changing themselves taking less

frazzledhome · 05-12-2015 08:39PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

It costs me circa 1500 to get a heifer to parlour at 23/25 months ,can't see why lads are short changing themselves taking less

2c/litre to rear heifers

mahoney_j · 05-12-2015 08:48PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

2c/litre to rear heifers

Expansion even from within your own herd ain't cheap and it ain't till a heifer hits 2/3 lactations that she starts leaving you back money .

leg wax · 05-12-2015 08:50PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

It costs me circa 1500 to get a heifer to parlour at 23/25 months ,can't see why lads are short changing themselves taking less

if no one wants to give you 1500 what do you do...... you are selling as you dont need her, what would you do ......... keep her.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 05-12-2015 08:55PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

It costs me circa 1500 to get a heifer to parlour at 23/25 months ,can't see why lads are short changing themselves taking less

Cash flow. May have bills coming in and something has to be sold to pay it.

leg wax · 05-12-2015 08:58PM

visatorro wrote: »

1760 is plenty for for a heifer calved down and correct. I think it's only these lunatics of northern buyers coming down and bidding on stock for the sake of it that's driving up price. crazy stuff. you can buy gold too dear aswell.

i was runner up on this heifer,i looked at it that i had the rest cheap at a average of 1350, her ebi was 193 dam had yield of highest 8311 3.81bf 3.68 pr 316bfkgs 306prkgs in 293 days on her 4th lact. the buyer was from tipp.and yes gold can be bought too dear ,but this was a cow:D.

mahoney_j · 05-12-2015 09:04PM

leg wax wrote: »

if no one wants to give you 1500 what do you do...... you are selling as you dont need her, what would you do ......... keep her.

Rather than loose money yes or another option find some poor performers within the herd and cull them ,heifer genetics are best in herd

Panch18 · 05-12-2015 09:04PM

Good luck with the the cows leg wax

Are you sticking to black and white or will you cross?

Strictly Spring calving?

mahoney_j · 05-12-2015 09:05PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Cash flow. May have bills coming in and something has to be sold to pay it.

Fair point but if forced into selling it wouldn't be heifers

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