Jeremy Clarkson suspended

Magico Gonzalez · 13-11-2015 02:26PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

I see Oisín Tymon is now suing the BBC and Clarkson for racial discrimination. Hard to see how he'll win this one.

Is that the premise of his case? I thought he would suing because, you know, his boss smacked him about in work!

ThisRegard · 13-11-2015 02:27PM

The headline and small piece about it specifically said it was over racial discrimination, and the assault was mentioned too.

ScumLord · 13-11-2015 03:29PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

I see Oisín Tymon is now suing the BBC and Clarkson for racial discrimination. Hard to see how he'll win this one.

I don't see how he couldn't.

Thargor wrote: »

Should have sued for straight up assault and lifetime loss of earnings seeing as his careers probably wrecked. I seriously doubt they'll swallow that he was attacked because he was Irish.

He did the right thing as far as I can see. He took the matter to the BBC first and they fired him, he brought the matter to a labour commission and now he's suing.

The bottom line is he was assaulted at work and then got fired. He seems to have brought the matter through every offical channel and is now left with the court.

I'd say he will win the case.

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2015 05:48PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't see how he couldn't.

He did the right thing as far as I can see. He took the matter to the BBC first and they fired him, he brought the matter to a labour commission and now he's suing.

The bottom line is he was assaulted at work and then got fired. He seems to have brought the matter through every offical channel and is now left with the court.

I'd say he will win the case.

Me too, hope he garners a right good wedge from Clarkeson.

I hear they are lined up on some obscure platform with more money than sense.

Yesterday's men, they had their day, flew too close to the sun.

Superhorse · 13-11-2015 05:56PM

He should clean up imo. Assaulted in work and then fired when complains. Like winning the lotto that.

ScumLord · 13-11-2015 05:58PM

I'm sure he'll get a nice chunk of change off Clarkson, but as much as what Clarkson did was wrong, it seems worse for the employer to fire the guy the guy that was assaulted.

Still, can't wait for the new top gear on Amazon.

cdeb · 13-11-2015 06:03PM

ScumLord wrote: »

The bottom line is he was assaulted at work and then got fired.

superhorse wrote:

Assaulted in work and then fired when complains.

Tymon didn't get sacked?

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2015 06:04PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm sure he'll get a nice chunk of change off Clarkson, but as much as what Clarkson did was wrong, it seems worse for the employer to fire the guy the guy that was assaulted.

Still, can't wait for the new top gear on Amazon.

Not calling it 'new top gear' surely!!

Only one Top Gear.. On the BBC

Rest are yesterday's men, RIP.

ScumLord · 13-11-2015 06:36PM

Top gear is Clarkson, Hammond and May. I hope the BBC one flourishes as well, need more car shows, but up until BBC prove Top Gear won't flop without the traditional trio it's still Clarkson's show.

cdeb wrote: »

Tymon didn't get sacked?

You're right, I misread the article on Newstalk. They were referring to Clarkson's dismissal.

I'm not sure why he's suing the BBC then, unless he's going to say they allowed an environment where Clarkson thought he could get away with assaulting other staff.

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2015 06:48PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Top gear is Clarkson, Hammond and May. I hope the BBC one flourishes as well, need more car shows, but up until BBC prove Top Gear won't flop without the traditional trio it's still Clarkson's show.

You're right, I misread the article on Newstalk. They were referring to Clarkson's dismissal.

I'm not sure why he's suing the BBC then, unless he's going to say they allowed an environment where Clarkson thought he could get away with assaulting other staff.

Cannot argue with that.

dissed doc · 13-11-2015 07:06PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Top gear is Clarkson, Hammond and May. I hope the BBC one flourishes as well, need more car shows, but up until BBC prove Top Gear won't flop without the traditional trio it's still Clarkson's show.

You're right, I misread the article on Newstalk. They were referring to Clarkson's dismissal.

I'm not sure why he's suing the BBC then, unless he's going to say they allowed an environment where Clarkson thought he could get away with assaulting other staff.

He is suing because he probably cannot get another decent job. The program got cancelled because of his complaint, rightly or wrongly.

I do not see is so racist about being called a lazy Irish **** however. If they guy is lazy, is Irish, and is indeed a **** which is completely possible, we do not know, then maybe he deserved the insult.

But an insult is just an insult. Racism is e.g., what the KKK do, or the Black Panthers, or ISIS, etc., . I refer to case of Sticks vs Stones in the trial of Break my Bones.

Jayop · 13-11-2015 07:11PM

He's dead right. I probably don't agree that putting the word 'Irish' before a normal insult makes it racist, but given Clarkson's history with insulting nationalities etc, it's probably a good tactic from the lads legal team.

He'll win and he'll win big. It also won't cost Clarkson a penny.

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2015 07:41PM

Jayop wrote: »

He's dead right. I probably don't agree that putting the word 'Irish' before a normal insult makes it racist, but given Clarkson's history with insulting nationalities etc, it's probably a good tactic from the lads legal team.

He'll win and he'll win big. It also won't cost Clarkson a penny.[/b

Can you explain that in more detail?

Jayop · 13-11-2015 07:46PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Can you explain that in more detail?

He'll be suing clarksons company which will be insured, and in all likelihood the BBC will cover most of the costs to avoid a court case.

bucketybuck · 13-11-2015 07:48PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm not sure why he's suing the BBC then, unless he's going to say they allowed an environment where Clarkson thought he could get away with assaulting other staff.

My guess is that after the incident he sat tight and said nothing, didn't rock the boat, tried to be a good sport about it in the hope that it didn't wreck his career. But all this time later I bet he is getting feck all work and the stigma of getting punched by a fat bully has wrecked his career regardless.

At this point I suspect the damage is done and he is just taking the only action left to him, and yet still at no point in any of this has he done a single thing wrong. Clarkson should be ashamed of himself but I doubt he is, he doesn't have the morals for that.

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2015 07:49PM

Jayop wrote: »

He'll be suing clarksons company which will be insured, and in all likelihood the BBC will cover most of the costs to avoid a court case.

Indeed, that is quite a possibility, ,ta.

Magico Gonzalez · 13-11-2015 07:51PM

I imagine he is angling for an out of court settlement. Make a claim that makes a lot of media noise, instruct your lawyers to approach his and suggest a settlement with a non-disclosure clause. Done.

The truth is that Tymon is probably unemployable now. Labelled "troublemaker" or worse "couldn't look after the talent" I imagine producers are there to look after the star's needs and wants even if they are total asshats.

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2015 07:56PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

I imagine he is angling for an out of court settlement. Make a claim that makes a lot of media noise, instruct your lawyers to approach his and suggest a settlement with a non-disclosure clause. Done.

The truth is that Tymon is probably unemployable now. Labelled "troublemaker" or worse "couldn't look after the talent" I imagine producers are there to look after the star's needs and wants even if they are total asshats.

What a load of tosh, maybe that long jawed ligger saw it like that, but not what producers are there for.

Tarzana2 · 13-11-2015 08:00PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

My guess is that after the incident he sat tight and said nothing, didn't rock the boat, tried to be a good sport about it in the hope that it didn't wreck his career. But all this time later I bet he is getting feck all work and the stigma of getting punched by a fat bully has wrecked his career regardless.

Yes, this incident might have badly affected his career and it's not his fault. Suing to cover future loss of earnings?

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

I imagine producers are there to look after the star's needs and wants even if they are total asshats.

Sadly, yes. Gotta look after the "talent".

Jayop · 13-11-2015 08:04PM

If Clarkson was any sort of a decent person he should have at least offered him a job on the new show.

Tarzana2 · 13-11-2015 08:06PM

Jayop wrote: »

If Clarkson was any sort of a decent person he should have at least offered him a job on the new show.

I dunno. It might have crossed his mind but it'd just be so awkward, even making the offer.

Jayop · 13-11-2015 08:10PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I dunno. It might have crossed his mind but it'd just be so awkward, even making the offer.

Well if Clarkson was genuine about how none of it was Oisin's fault like he said in that video then he should have tried to make it work.

Maybe he did and was turned down, but I doubt it.

Ursus Horribilis · 14-11-2015 01:00AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

My guess is that after the incident he sat tight and said nothing, didn't rock the boat, tried to be a good sport about it in the hope that it didn't wreck his career. But all this time later I bet he is getting feck all work and the stigma of getting punched by a fat bully has wrecked his career regardless.

I'm pretty sure I heard the London radio presenter who comes onto Matt Cooper's radio show saying that since the incident, Oisin Tymon hasn't been doing the sort of work he had been doing before. I can't be bothered listening back to the audio this hour of night but I think he said the guy had been kept on by the BBC but was doing some sort of desk job.

ScumLord · 14-11-2015 04:30PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Clarkson should be ashamed of himself but I doubt he is, he doesn't have the morals for that.

I agree with everything you said but there's no need to start resorting to the Clarkson bad guy caricature. Clarkson has said he is ashamed of what he did and has taken full responsibility for it, saying Oisin wasn't in any way responsible.

Unfortunately for Oisin he's attached to what may be the downfall of one of the most popular TV shows in the world.

Fratton Fred · 24-02-2016 01:29PM

Turned out ok for Oisin in the end. Full apology and a nice pay out.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35648682

Mint Aero · 24-02-2016 02:14PM

Well done Clarkson me old mucker. What a champ he is. Go on Clarkson! Get in ma son!

bucketybuck · 24-02-2016 02:19PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Turned out ok for Oisin in the end. Full apology and a nice pay out.

Apart from his whole career at the BBC and most likely other media outlets being destroyed of course.

Kirby · 24-02-2016 02:25PM

How exactly has his career been destroyed?

Fratton Fred · 24-02-2016 02:26PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Apart from his whole career at the BBC and most likely other media outlets being destroyed of course.

He turned down an offer to continue working on the show, so he must have something in the pipeline.

Howard the Duck · 24-02-2016 02:32PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

He turned down an offer to continue working on the show, so he must have something in the pipeline.

Reads as if he is still employed by the BBC

Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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