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M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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    #242
    Mellifera
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭Mellifera


    josip wrote:
    To drive a few stakes and take soil moisture readings until April/May

    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? Don't worry, they'll be in there ASAP


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    #243
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,692 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Mellifera wrote: »
    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? Don't worry, they'll be in there ASAP

    I can see how it might be seen as sarcastic, but given the reluctance to move soil in winter I was wondering what else they can do in Jan/Feb?
    Drive piles for bridges?


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    #244
    annfield1978
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    Site Clearance, site investigation, set up compounds, if its a mild winter, crack on!!


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    #245
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    annfield1978 wrote: »
    Site Clearance, site investigation, set up compounds, if its a mild winter, crack on!!
    Archaeological work is clearly visible in the gmaps imagery here.


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    #246
    sheff_
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭sheff_


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Archaeological work is clearly visible in the gmaps imagery.

    Archaeology was done for this in 2010/11. New Ross bypass too.


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    #247
    marno21
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    sheff_ wrote: »
    Archaeology was done for this in 2010/11. New Ross bypass too.
    Good to see them doing this kind of work in the recessionary times so the projects would be shovel ready come the prosperous times.

    Complete opposite of the M20 project.


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    #248
    Schadenfreudia
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    marno21 wrote: »
    Complete opposite of the M20 project.

    Which means they planned to prioritise the N11 as soon as Howlin got into power??


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    #249
    marno21
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    Schadenfreudia wrote: »
    Which means they planned to prioritise the N11 as soon as Howlin got into power??
    This was in the 2nd tranche of PPP's announced in 2009 (along with the M17/M18, M11 Arklow to Rathnew, N25 New Ross and the M20 Cork to Limerick). M20 was later removed in favour of N6 Galway City Outer Bypass (that went well) and the N7 Newlands Cross Interchange.

    Even though it was removed, they still should've done the groundwork on it as it was always going to have to be done one day and the work would've been both cheap and beneficial, although if I were to guess it was canned in the end as they couldn't afford to CPO the land along the route.

    Anyway, back to the Enniscorthy bypass :)


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    #250
    Schadenfreudia
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    marno21 wrote: »
    Anyway, back to the Enniscorthy bypass :)

    You're saying I'm too cynical! You might be right :)


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    #251
    Mellifera
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭Mellifera


    marno21 wrote: »
    Even though it was removed, they still should've done the groundwork on it as it was always going to have to be done one day and the work would've been both cheap and beneficial, although if I were to guess it was canned in the end as they couldn't afford to CPO the land along the route.

    What's the point in doing archaeology/investigations on a scheme that doesn't have planning?
    Would say it was 'canned' for both lack of funds for CPO but also the entire scheme costs. Even if it was run as a PPP there's still a large long term cost.


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    #252
    VR6
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    Looks like this project is going to go the same way as the M18 Gort Tuam bypass a seemingly un-ending series of delays, false leads and missed deadlines.

    We were supposed to hear that the contract would be signed in the summer and that work would start in September. Then they said the contracts would be signed in September and work would start by the end of the year at the earliest, or more likely 2016. September is virtually over and the contracts have not been signed...

    Don't be surprised if work does not start till late 2016 or after at this rate. No doubt the project will be re-announced by the government next week in their statement on the latest infrastructure spending initiative and the usual vague language will be used to indicate the schedule.


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    #253
    Bards
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    Looks like this contract has been awarded

    http://www.cisireland.com/project?id=128977&title=m11-gorey-to-enniscorthy-road-scheme


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    #254
    marno21
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    Just in time to be announced as part of the Government's new capital investment programme


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    #255
    L1011
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    Is the N30 leg being built to motorway or even DC standards?


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    #256
    marno21
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    L1011 wrote: »
    Is the N30 leg being built to motorway or even DC standards?

    According to spacetweek's site the N30 is being done as S2 and the N80 part will be D2


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    #257
    delaido
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭delaido


    Contract was awarded ages ago.... But contracts yet to be signed.


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    #258
    annfield1978
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    Mott McDonald originally did the tender design for BAM but have been dropped in favour of Arup


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    #259
    Bards
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    delaido wrote: »
    Contract was awarded ages ago.... But contracts yet to be signed.

    Preferred bidder status was decided ages ago, contract award and contract signing are the same thing


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    #260
    VR6
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    The contracts for this project have NOT been signed yet. The expectation was that they would be signed in September 2015 but this has not happened.

    Its unlikely to happen within the next 2 days...


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    #261
    jd
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    Wexford People today

    Wexford Co Co Roads department: All preliminary work complete, contracts should be signed first or second week of October, construction to start November.
    All nice and visible for a Spring election!


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    #262
    VR6
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    Would be nice if this turns out to be true !


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    #263
    Cantona's Collars
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    jd wrote: »
    Wexford People today

    Wexford Co Co Roads department: All preliminary work complete, contracts should be signed first or second week of October, construction to start November.
    All nice and visible for a Spring election!

    Construction to start next month?? Subcontractors were told Spring was the start time.Maybe the government want it brought forward to try and garner a few more votes,or maybe I'm being cynical.


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    #264
    josip
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    zerks wrote: »
    Construction to start next month?? Subcontractors were told Spring was the start time.Maybe the government want it brought forward to try and garner a few more votes,or maybe I'm being cynical.

    Not cynical at all :D

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/exclusive-prepare-for-a-november-election-phil-hogan-tells-fine-gael-organisers-31569491.html


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    #265
    VR6
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    jd wrote: »
    Wexford People today

    Wexford Co Co Roads department: All preliminary work complete, contracts should be signed first or second week of October, construction to start November.
    All nice and visible for a Spring election!


    The fact that this has only been reported in the Wexford People to date tells me to treat this claim with caution. When it appears in the Times or on the NRA website (how slow is that as a news source !) maybe we can believe it.


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    #266
    jd
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    VR6 wrote: »
    The fact that this has only been reported in the Wexford People to date tells me to treat this claim with caution. When it appears in the Times or on the NRA website (how slow is that as a news source !) maybe we can believe it.

    Article online in Wexford People today

    http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/november-start-date-for-bypasses-31570145.html
    Director of Services with Wexford County Council's Roads Department, Eamonn Hore told this newspaper that the contracts will be signed in the first or second week of October and work will begin shortly afterwards.

    Mr Hore said: 'All preliminary works are completed and work should start in November. The timeline has gone from vague to definite and the contracts should be signed now in the first or second week of October. All court and property issues have been finalised. There is nothing remaining to be done apart from signing the contracts.'


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    #267
    Reuben1210
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    jd wrote: »
    Article online in Wexford People today

    http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/november-start-date-for-bypasses-31570145.html

    At long last! This is a good scheme too! :D


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    #268
    VR6
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    Reuben1210 wrote: »
    At long last! This is a good scheme too! :D


    The exact same story appears in the Enniscorthy Guardian also. I want to believe it, but I will wait for confirmation from the NRA etc. Hopefully this will come in the next week or so.


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    #269
    Mellifera
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭Mellifera


    Not sure it's quite as close as E Hore would like but then he wouldn't publicly state it without some confidence surely?


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    #270
    BoatMad
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    Reuben1210 wrote: »
    At long last! This is a good scheme too! :D

    jaysus, well have the best roads in the country and nobody on them neither


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    #271
    VR6
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    BoatMad wrote: »
    jaysus, well have the best roads in the country and nobody on them neither


    Very eloquently expressed...


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