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Eircom to roll out 1Gb/s FTTH to 66 towns

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  • #1232
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    rob808 wrote: »
    well the blue stop right outside my house my lines are under ground and my neighbours use a pole.The thing is the blue Line stops at my house and neighbour Only few meters from me and another 3 house up a little bit surely they would be included to get FTTH ?.
    That's what I saw near my house, a good few houses just beyond the end of the blue line. I don't think Eircom have worked things out at a precise level yet. They probably just decided that if all they had to do was blow fibre down ducts, then they could make a profit.

    When the NBP goes out to tender, we will have the final mapping of which house are in/out. Maybe (only maybe) it will have been thought out road by road by then.


  • #1233
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    KOR101 wrote: »
    That's what I saw near my house, a good few houses just beyond the end of the blue line. I don't think Eircom have worked things out at a precise level yet. They probably just decided that if all they had to do was blow fibre down ducts, then they could make a profit.

    When the NBP goes out to tender, we will have the final mapping of which house are in/out. Maybe (only maybe) it will have been thought out road by road by then.
    We have better idea come 25 September about NBP so hopefully they put houses in blue covered by eir.


  • #1234
    mobil 222
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭mobil 222


    Folks the blue lines has nothing to do with whether there is underground duct or not.
    At the end of the underground network coming from the exchange you will find both fibre and copper cabinets
    The startof the overhead network is called a interphase pole,
    A 75 pair cable leaves here for destribution futher along the road network, sometimes you might see a second 75' or
    a 30' leaving as well...but mostly its 75 pairs.
    When it reaches a junction it will be split down to whichever road needs the most.
    From looking at the Blue line map its fairly clear that the colored line is following the bigger cable.
    If there are 5 houses down a side road then a 10' pair is sufficent or 20 ' Pair.
    The outer reaches of most of the bigger exchanges ie Castlebar , Sligo, Letterkenny which have not been done using fttc
    will be completed using ftth,
    In fact I can see all bigger overhead cables been replaced through time with fibre, because copper is costly to
    replace ,prone to damage from trees, Joints liable to water ingress.
    Overhead Fibre is far more durable and joints are not as troublesome
    There are core fibre overhead routes all over the country that have not had problems,some are over 12 yrs old and
    have stayed intact during storms.
    So what i think will happen is that a bigger guage fibre will be erected to a point and households will be connected from there on smaller ones more or less to a distribution point and single fibre from the last pole to the subscriber.


  • #1235
    The Cush
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    mobil 222 wrote: »
    Overhead Fibre is far more durable and joints are not as troublesome
    There are core fibre overhead routes all over the country that have not had problems,some are over 12 yrs old .

    Also fibre is of no use to the copper recyclers, now if only the ESB could run power down fibre :D


  • #1236
    ItHurtsWhenIP
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    The Cush wrote: »
    Around my area most of the blue lines are overhead with the odd short underground duct where it intersects with overhead powerlines

    This copper/fibre junction box was installed by KN earlier this year during post-storm repair work, it's located at a road junction where the blue lines on the map split to 2 roads

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    There's a lot of this kind of carry on over my side of the hills from you and we ain't got no blue lines here, only core fibre. :(


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  • #1237
    KOR101
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    mobil 222 wrote: »
    From looking at the Blue line map its fairly clear that the colored line is following the bigger cable.
    If there are 5 houses down a side road then a 10' pair is sufficent or 20 ' Pair.
    I'm in Dublin at the moment so I can't check it, but if you look at the route between Kenmare and Blackwater Bridge, the blue lines go off the main road down side roads for a short distance. Does the bigger cable go down those roads? I doubt it. It (the blue line) goes up the road signposted Coomnakilla, for example, but that road goes over the hill to the Blackwater Tavern. The main route to there is directly from Blackwater bridge, so that's where I would expect main cables. And if the Coomnakilla road had a main cable why would it stop mid way along a straight road.


  • #1238
    TireeTerror
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    Where can I find this map showing coverage you are all talking about?

    I saw 1 Eircom van and a newly branded Eir van in Sligo today. They had a manhole cover open and one of the vans had a trailer with loads of reels of yellow coloured cable.


  • #1239
    KeRbDoG
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    TireeTerror wrote: »
    Where can I find this map showing coverage you are all talking about?

    I saw 1 Eircom van and a newly branded Eir van in Sligo today. They had a manhole cover open and one of the vans had a trailer with loads of reels of yellow coloured cable.

    http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/


  • #1240
    markmurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭markmurphy


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    Loving my rural 42 meg and 10 meg connection! Great to see rural Ireland is before city's for a change! Green fields about no stupid rat race!

    See I can get fiber direct in my village to! I'd go for 150 meg option. Cant think of use for 1000mb!

    m!


  • #1241
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    markmurphy wrote: »
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    Loving my rural 42 meg and 10 meg connection! Great to see rural Ireland is before city's for a change! Green fields about no stupid rat race!

    See I can get fiber direct in my village to! I'd go for 150 meg option. Cant think of use for 1000mb!

    m!
    Im not sure you get FTTH since your already on FTTC unless your village in the 50 towns.The rural FTTH for people who can't get FTTC doh that not to say you wouldn't get FTTH.i don't think anybody really know till late 2016, or early 2017 what eir rural plan is since it in early stages even with the new map.

    That a nice speed it put my broadband to shame 3.2 mb and 372kbp upload.


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  • #1242
    TireeTerror
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    Aye its not a bad speed, but mine is better and way way way cheaper! :D

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  • #1243
    BandMember
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    rob808 wrote: »
    Im not sure you get FTTH since your already on FTTC unless your village in the 50 towns.The rural FTTH for people who can't get FTTC doh that not to say you wouldn't get FTTH.i don't think anybody really know till late 2016, or early 2017 what eir rural plan is since it in early stages even with the new map.

    That a nice speed it put my broadband to shame 3.2 mb and 372kbp upload.

    You see, this is what I'm wondering about - what happens to those people in FTTC areas who are not in the new NBP areas? Are they going to be left on FTTC and speeds which will not be sufficient in a very short space of time while the rest of the country gets FTTH and high speeds?


  • #1244
    murphaph
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    BandMember wrote: »
    You see, this is what I'm wondering about - what happens to those people in FTTC areas who are not in the new NBP areas? Are they going to be left on FTTC and speeds which will not be sufficient in a very short space of time while the rest of the country gets FTTH and high speeds?
    Fttc will do the job just fine for a few years while they hook up the rural properties. The way competition is in Ireland do you think the big cities will be left? No chance...they'll turn their attention back to them with 10gpon or whatever.


  • #1245
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    BandMember wrote: »
    You see, this is what I'm wondering about - what happens to those people in FTTC areas who are not in the new NBP areas? Are they going to be left on FTTC and speeds which will not be sufficient in a very short space of time while the rest of the country gets FTTH and high speeds?
    I say the FTTC areas would be done after the 50 towns are done the rural FTTH completed in 2020.

    There good chance siro would do FTTC areas in phase 2 after phase 1 complete and eir probably follow after them.


  • #1246
    Dr. Nick
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    KeRbDoG wrote: »
    http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

    Sorry if a silly question but what do the blue lines represent on this map? Are they the fibre lines from the local exchange?


  • #1247
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    Sorry if a silly question but what do the blue lines represent on this map? Are they the fibre lines from the local exchange?
    It were eir plan to being FTTH to rural areas not able to get FTTC


  • #1248
    Gonzo
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    BandMember wrote: »
    You see, this is what I'm wondering about - what happens to those people in FTTC areas who are not in the new NBP areas? Are they going to be left on FTTC and speeds which will not be sufficient in a very short space of time while the rest of the country gets FTTH and high speeds?

    reading between the lines judging from a recent press release those who are currently on FTTC will be kept on it and those who cannot get FTTC will be on FTTH. Eir are claiming 1.6 million homes/premises on FTTC and 300,000 on FTTH by end of 2020. They claim up to 35% of customers will have FTTH by the time this rollout completes in 2020.

    Im sure there will be some overlap of some FTTC customers been converted to FTTH if the blue line runs past their houses.

    http://www.openeir.ie/news/NGA_rollout_extended_to_1_9M_premises/


  • #1249
    murphaph
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    Everyone will eventually be on ftth.


  • #1250
    Deagol
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    Gonzo wrote: »
    reading between the lines judging from a recent press release those who are currently on FTTC will be kept on it and those who cannot get FTTC will be on FTTH. Eir are claiming 1.6 million homes/premises on FTTC and 300,000 on FTTH by end of 2020. They claim up to 35% of customers will have FTTH by the time this rollout completes in 2020.

    Im sure there will be some overlap of some FTTC customers been converted to FTTH if the blue line runs past their houses.

    http://www.openeir.ie/news/NGA_rollout_extended_to_1_9M_premises/

    And what about people in the towns currently they are rolling out to that have gone from FTTC to FTTH? That doesn't tally with what you have said above.

    If you where correct, Eircon will be losing my business once SIRO hits my location! I can't believe they'd leave 129 houses, 500 metres from a FTTH cabinet connected to FTTC. Sorry, I just find that impossible to believe, even taking into account the company involved.


  • #1251
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    Deagol wrote: »
    And what about people in the towns currently they are rolling out to that have gone from FTTC to FTTH? That doesn't tally with what you have said above.

    If you where correct, Eircon will be losing my business once SIRO hits my location! I can't believe they'd leave 129 houses, 500 metres from a FTTH cabinet connected to FTTC. Sorry, I just find that impossible to believe, even taking into account the company involved.
    It come down money eir has high debt to pay back plus there tendering for NBP so they be holding money back for that but people on FTTC will get FTTH it just when is the question.


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  • #1252
    The Ayatolla
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    Anywhere I can find a roll-out plan or map?


  • #1253
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Deagol wrote: »
    And what about people in the towns currently they are rolling out to that have gone from FTTC to FTTH? That doesn't tally with what you have said above.

    If you where correct, Eircon will be losing my business once SIRO hits my location! I can't believe they'd leave 129 houses, 500 metres from a FTTH cabinet connected to FTTC. Sorry, I just find that impossible to believe, even taking into account the company involved.

    I would not be waiting for SIRO as they will quite rightly cherry pick profitable areas only. They won't go outside urban areas, just like UPC.

    They will only leave the urban areas if they win a NBP contract


  • #1254
    John mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭John mac


    The Ayatolla wrote: »
    Anywhere I can find a roll-out plan or map?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97102378&postcount=1239


  • #1255
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    rob808 wrote: »
    Im not sure you get FTTH since your already on FTTC unless your village in the 50 towns.The rural FTTH for people who can't get FTTC doh that not to say you wouldn't get FTTH.i don't think anybody really know till late 2016, or early 2017 what eir rural plan is since it in early stages even with the new map.

    That a nice speed it put my broadband to shame 3.2 mb and 372kbp upload.

    My area is listed to get FTTC in Q1 2016. It's also listed to get FTTH in that 2017 - 2020 period on that map.


  • #1256
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Deagol wrote: »
    And what about people in the towns currently they are rolling out to that have gone from FTTC to FTTH? That doesn't tally with what you have said above.

    If you where correct, Eircon will be losing my business once SIRO hits my location! I can't believe they'd leave 129 houses, 500 metres from a FTTH cabinet connected to FTTC. Sorry, I just find that impossible to believe, even taking into account the company involved.

    I only trying to understand what the press release says, it says 35% of all customers will have FTTH by 2020 and that they are connecting around 300,000 to FTTH.

    Hopefully they will upgrade everyone to FTTH as they go along but it just seems from the press release that they aren't but there will still be plenty of overlapping with people able to get both along the blue lines. IF they arent upgrading everyone who now has FTTC then they will be under alot of pressure to do so after 2020.


  • #1257
    rob808
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    Kahless wrote: »
    My area is listed to get FTTC in Q1 2016. It's also listed to get FTTH in that 2017 - 2020 period on that map.
    well the 300,000 house that getting FTTH of eir are part of the NBP and they still are at moment because goverment not 100% sure that they keep to there word.

    They might just be running the fibre through the FTTC towns to reach rural areas but if that is case they be easily able to upgrade the people on the FTTC at a later stage.I think that was eir plan all along quite smart it anger the other ISP that are planing on bidding on NBP late this year.

    There annoyed because the another 400,000 might not be worth rolling out fast broadband to I'm worry myself the blue end at my house.I don't if it has to past your house to be able to get it fingers crossed because 150mb be a dream come true compared to 3mb I'm stuck on for maybe 3 to 4 years more.


  • #1258
    Gonzo
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    rob808 wrote: »
    well the 300,000 house that getting FTTH of eir are part of the NBP and they still are at moment because goverment not 100% sure that they keep to there word.

    AFAIK the 300,000 homes/premises getting FTTH including all the blue lines on the map are not part of the NBP, Eir are funding all this themselves.

    The areas after where the blue lines stop are the areas for the NBP.

    Eir say these 300,000 homes/premised will be completed by 2020, I get the feeling if none of these lines are gonna be touched till 2017 at the earliest, that it's going to take considerably longer than 2020 to finish them all.


  • #1259
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,924 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Gonzo wrote: »
    AFAIK the 300,000 homes/premises getting FTTH including all the blue lines on the map are not part of the NBP, Eir are funding all this themselves.

    The areas after where the blue lines stop are the areas for the NBP.

    Eir say these 300,000 homes/premised will be completed by 2020, I get the feeling if none of these lines are gonna be touched till 2017 at the earliest, that it's going to take considerably longer than 2020 to finish them all.

    But the Gov wants anything not in the NBP to be completed before NBP starts ....... a bit of a conundrum ..


  • #1260
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    AFAIK the 300,000 homes/premises getting FTTH including all the blue lines on the map are not part of the NBP, Eir are funding all this themselves.

    The areas after where the blue lines stop are the areas for the NBP.

    Eir say these 300,000 homes/premised will be completed by 2020, I get the feeling if none of these lines are gonna be touched till 2017 at the earliest, that it's going to take considerably longer than 2020 to finish them all.
    The blue stop at my house eir better give me FTTH I be pissed if I got stuck with a wisp.It would be a killer if my neighbour had FTTH and me just a few meter way with wisp oh man that suck:(.Doh the blue aren't a sack either they updated them as they go along so that mean the blue line will hopefully go right pass my house.


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  • #1261
    Deagol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Deagol


    rob808 wrote: »
    The blue stop at my house eir better give me FTTH I be pissed if I got stuck with a wisp.It would be a killer if my neighbour had FTTH and me just a few meter way with wisp oh man that suck:(.Doh the blue aren't a sack either they updated them as they go along so that mean the blue line will hopefully go right pass my house.

    Keep in with the neighbours in case you want to wirelessly share their Gb :)


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