Junior Cert Jailbait night out

FloatingVoter · 10-09-2015 03:57AM

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

Kids are far too devious these days though. Short of sitting by and visually monitoring them, it's extremely difficult to know 100% what they're up to. A plan to go over to a friends house for a sleepover could actually be one where skimpy clothes are waiting in said friends house and they'll sneak out when parents aren't watching. And there's only a limit to how much recon can be done to ensure the agreed plan is not a ruse.

I'm sure some parents don't give a monkeys and they're a disgrace, but I feel for the ones who are genuinely duped. It's very tough to be 100% on top of it all. Agree though that some parents are crazily misguided and I've known of some not to give a care for what they're kids are out doing.

Back in the day, the golden goose was a "free house" - parents gone on holidays or whatever, elder siblings left "in charge". So a place to doss off school, catch up on daytime TV and water down the booze cabinet. Said elder teens would happily do booze runs in return for us keeping quiet about bedroom shenanigans.
The worst / most reliable culprits were a schoolteacher/union rep and her businessman husband. The other dosshouse was a separated pair (pre-divorce Ireland) who never knew where the other was.
Kids are no smarter or dumber these days - I would imagine they are exploiting mobile technology in a way a devious little pest like me would have done given half the chance.

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-09-2015 04:14AM

Did my inter in 83.
Can't remember what I did but it didn't involve discos or drink.

Sudance · 10-09-2015 04:36AM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The only sober and sensible crossroad ceilis that ever existed in this country were in Eamon De Valera's pointy little head. And there is a distinct whiff of weed off that radio address. Probably smoking a few with the Mexican ambassador before going live to the nation.

You mean the same DeValera that didnt want us joining up with Europe for ANY reason. The same DeValera that did not want us to lose our soveirgnty or are autonomy???????

FloatingVoter · 10-09-2015 04:41AM

That's the lad. Lanky American bloke who ran the shop for a few decades. Daft as a brush towards the end and a bit of a prick all told.

Sudance · 10-09-2015 04:53AM

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

Kids are far too devious these days though. Short of sitting by and visually monitoring them, it's extremely difficult to know 100% what they're up to. A plan to go over to a friends house for a sleepover could actually be one where skimpy clothes are waiting in said friends house and they'll sneak out when parents aren't watching. And there's only a limit to how much recon can be done to ensure the agreed plan is not a ruse.

I'm sure some parents don't give a monkeys and they're a disgrace, but I feel for the ones who are genuinely duped. It's very tough to be 100% on top of it all. Agree though that some parents are crazily misguided and I've known of some not to give a care for what they're kids are out doing.

Yeh, they're world class lawyers the way they can argue with their parents and justify their wants. They aint half as smart when it comes to recognising where the real danger lies and how to ensure they dont walk right into it.

Caging kids for 13-15 years of their lives will only end up with they're not being able to cope with freedom when they do get it. They wouldnt even do that to a wild animal, yet it's perfetly acceptable to do it to our own children. Then they expect these kids to behave sensibly when they do get out. Truly ****ed up thinking by their so called adult parents, how can we expect their kids to fare any better.

Radharc na Sleibhte · 10-09-2015 05:13AM

Tompatrick wrote: »

Hey ! How are you able to work tinternet then aul boy?

Sshh, he's asleep.

Menas · 10-09-2015 05:27AM

I was 14 turning 15 when I got the inter results. Got £1 per honour from the parents. Went to a teen disco, did not drink but managed to get a hiding from two lads....ah the memories!

spurious · 10-09-2015 05:38AM

1978 Inter.. The big deal for us was getting off school a bit early. Celebration was chipper chips for tea. No drink. No drink following the Leaving either in 1980. Went to see Rocky 2 in the Green cinema.

Junkyard Tom · 10-09-2015 07:05AM

Mutton dressed up as wolves, as they say.

ALiasEX · 10-09-2015 08:22AM

Charli Unimportant Gearshift wrote: »

They were just the dads dropping them off.

Doesn't mean they weren't hanging around observing the jailbait.

GLaDOS · 10-09-2015 08:38AM

Detached Retina wrote: »

My ex (while in his 30's) used to always make sure to be out for the night of the JC results. Don't know whether it was being pervy or was his mental age. Either way.. *shudders*

That's seriously creepy.

Salvation Tambourine · 10-09-2015 08:46AM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

I had friends over and we played video games. Never drank at that age.

I was an incredibly lame 15 year old.

I did the same, Smackdown vs Raw. Fatal Four Way ladder matches. Stuck on the radio when we heard there was riots on Portmarnock beaches. This was 2004 or so. I'd say it's got much worse in the last ten years.

Wibbs · 10-09-2015 08:59AM

Sudance wrote: »

You mean the same DeValera that didnt want us joining up with Europe for ANY reason. The same DeValera that did not want us to lose our soveirgnty or are autonomy???????

but was happy to hand it to a bunch of clerics.

I did mine in 82 or 3, can't remember exactly. There was some drink taken alright, but nothing too heavy duty and no young ladies about to speak of.

Hijpo · 10-09-2015 09:25AM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Yes, they will become nuns and swear off men and hard liquor for life. Same goes if they're girls.

I already have them remastering the bible

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

Said every parent ever...

Well in fairness, whatever about leaving cert but certainly not Junior cert. I would actually be pretty disappointed with my parenting if they wanted to go out and get **** faced after passing a test at 15.

10-09-2015 09:49AM

Hijpo wrote: »

I already have them remastering the bible

Well in fairness, whatever about leaving cert but certainly not Junior cert. I would actually be pretty disappointed with my parenting if they wanted to go out and get **** faced after passing a test at 15.

Come back to us when you are the parents of teenagers and tell us how you got on.

I think parents have more cop on these days to be honest children are dropped off and collected by parents, venues are security guarded up to the eye balls, there is a lot less free houses and teenagers left in any situation when they are not supervised or monitored, schools are bringing in electronic monitoring devices. I have a friend and her son goes to a school when there palms are scanned going in to school. The clothes are another issue, that seems to be a cultural thing, every social event is dress like its a red carpet event, that just fashion it could go back to grunge in a instant.

No 15 year old teenager wants to get drunk out of their minds, what going on is a desire to fit in and appear grown up along with Irish drinking culture.

Aisling(",) · 10-09-2015 09:59AM

I did mine in 2006...I think.
Ended up sober at a teenage disco called Scream in the point headlined by Scooter.
Most people got drunk and tried to find a house party afterwards but I got picked up by my Dad.
Felt fierce put out at the time but I didn't miss anything.
Saw people getting up to some funny buisiness against the walls though

FloatingVoter · 10-09-2015 10:01AM

Ah...grunge. An excuse to stop shaving and look like a hobo. Thank you, Kurt Cobain.

Hijpo · 10-09-2015 10:08AM

mariaalice wrote: »

Come back to us when you are the parents of teenagers and tell us how you got on.

I think parents have more cop on these days to be honest children are dropped off and collected by parents, venues are security guarded up to the eye balls, there is a lot less free houses and teenagers left in any situation when they are not supervised or monitored, schools are bringing in electronic monitoring devices. I have a friend and her son goes to a school when there palms are scanned going in to school. The clothes are another issue, that seems to be a cultural thing, every social event is dress like its a red carpet event, that just fashion it could go back to grunge in a instant.

No 15 year old teenager wants to get drunk out of their minds, what going on is a desire to fit in and appear grown up along with Irish drinking culture.

I probably wont update you but ill try keep your request in mind.

You would hope parents have come cop on these days, I'm not convinced though. Palm scanners?? We seem to be at opposite ends of the social scale by the sounds of it.

And steering both away from the irish drinking culture is one of my parenting goals. Preventing them from placing themselves in this stupid junior cert party fiasco is on my agenda.

mfceiling · 10-09-2015 10:28AM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Ah...grunge. An excuse to stop shaving and look like a hobo. Thank you, Kurt Cobain.

You young girls nowadays...

FloatingVoter · 10-09-2015 10:28AM

I'd be careful of the helicopter parenting. Worst drink and drugs cases I witnessed in my college years were the products of controlled environments let loose for the first time. Best they make idiots of themselves at 15 than wind up in rehab or worse at 21.
As for scanners and such - they're children not hardened criminals. Sounds like an excuse for the security and tech industries to make a few bob preying on fear.

wp_rathead · 10-09-2015 10:38AM

Sudance wrote: »

At 50 going on 30 I can safely say that kids were not always getting pissed and dressing like tramps. I also remember being at crossroad ceilis and no tut tuting old folks, they were too busy having a great time dancing, singing and the banter. Sadly I havent seen old people enjoy themselves like that in a long time, and a lot of kids these days are being done a dis service by not having a lot of elderly in their lives.

Some seriously misguided parents if they are allowing their daughters to go out at night, at 15 y/o dress noting more than a skimpy pair knickers and skimpy vest.

Knickers? They're not nuns

10-09-2015 10:41AM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

I'd be careful of the helicopter parenting. Worst drink and drugs cases I witnessed in my college years were the products of controlled environments let loose for the first time. Best they make idiots of themselves at 15 than wind up in rehab or worse at 21.
As for scanners and such - they're children not hardened criminals. Sounds like an excuse for the security and tech industries to make a few bob preying on fear.

The scanner is to check attendance and if a child is not present a txt is sent to parents its not a security device, I do think teenagers need a reasonable amount of freedom so they can learn to balance risk you cant wrap them in cotton wool and hope when they go off to university at 18 they will be alright its doesn't work like, for example I think teenagers should have jobs and the type of job where you are mixing with adult that are not their parents, where they have to deal with the public and take responsibility for themselves.

Hijpo · 10-09-2015 10:53AM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

I'd be careful of the helicopter parenting. Worst drink and drugs cases I witnessed in my college years were the products of controlled environments let loose for the first time. Best they make idiots of themselves at 15 than wind up in rehab or worse at 21.
As for scanners and such - they're children not hardened criminals. Sounds like an excuse for the security and tech industries to make a few bob preying on fear.

I appreciate that as a parent i can quickly be in a situation where my children are not allowed do anything and everything is scrutinised. However I firmly believe that keeping my (soon to be) teenagers away from this silly event in the future wont turn them into junkies and boozers. I know where your coming from though, first bit of freedom and they go mental.

I think the trick to keeping kids disinterested in getting **** faced is reducing the time they have drinking and instead filling that time with stuff they enjoy like encouraging them to play sport or other family type projects. Sending them off out to pretend they are in their 20's because some adult stands to make a few bob on the door wouldn't sit well with me.

not yet · 10-09-2015 11:01AM

Charli Unimportant Gearshift wrote: »

My Inter Cert was 1960, I think, we didn't do anything to celebrate.

And your not dead yet

valoren · 10-09-2015 11:10AM

Went bowling. No booze, took the pledge. Didn't drink until college.

10-09-2015 11:13AM

Hijpo wrote: »

I appreciate that as a parent i can quickly be in a situation where my children are not allowed do anything and everything is scrutinised. However I firmly believe that keeping my (soon to be) teenagers away from this silly event in the future wont turn them into junkies and boozers. I know where your coming from though, first bit of freedom and they go mental.

I think the trick to keeping kids disinterested in getting **** faced is reducing the time they have drinking and instead filling that time with stuff they enjoy like encouraging them to play sport or other family type projects. Sending them off out to pretend they are in their 20's because some adult stands to make a few bob on the door wouldn't sit well with me.

Parenting teenagers is very complicated mine are long sense grown up and as adults are lovely people, I wouldn't go back to the teenage years for anything.
What one set of parents did on junior cert night was to book a table at a pizza restaurant for the group of friends they were dropped there and collected, parents did not go with them and they did dress up. I think that's a good compromise.

thegreatgonzo · 10-09-2015 11:14AM

valoren wrote: »

Went bowling. No booze, took the pledge. Didn't drink until college.

Me too. I felt like the last unicorn:)

CFlat · 10-09-2015 11:18AM

I did my 'inter' in the early 80s. Myself and my friends went to the local arcade, played pool and the latest high tech video game, Space Invaders. Not a fully nor scantilly clad young one in sight.

10-09-2015 11:20AM

There would have be no question of drinking when I did my intercert it wasn't on our radar, I wouldn't have known where to get alcohol my parents did not drink.

osarusan · 10-09-2015 11:22AM

I don't think I did anything...anything at all, to celebrate.

Junior Cert Jailbait night out

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