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Where are we going to put the refugees?

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  • #62
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Now we have moved to Iraq? So we need to take in Syrian refugees because US went to war in Iraq?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Iraq wasn't/isn't a total clusterfeck, but I still don't see how us taking in 1800 people is going to help the situation.

    It is nothing more than a PR stunt designed to get make the government look caring. Once the furore has died down the populcae will once again be asking why refugess are getting all the free houses, free prames etc

    All I am saying is that we have plenty of people already here that need help and attention. Older people are being housed in totally inadequate nursing homes, whole families are depending on Focus and SvP for housing/meals.

    Why this sudden rush to be seen to care, for is all this is

    There are no free houses in Ireland.


  • #63
    Rhys Essien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    I say a few lads here would find space in their homes for this woman 'Nour'.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34118978


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I doubt if less that two thousand people are going to overwhelm us in a country of over four and a half million, people need to get a grip we could take three time as much and still not notice it.


  • #65
    Skatedude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    if there are so many vacant houses,then why are there so many people in their 20, 30 and even 40's still living at the family home because they cant afford them even when working full time? I've no problem helping people in need, but help our own population as well.


  • #66
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    jon1981 wrote: »
    The real question here is, are we as a nation willing to accept a drop in our living standards and comforts to help fellow man?

    Personally I've worked hard, we as a nation we have worked hard since independence to build the economy and society we have, ok it ain't perfect but Im damn well happy with it, all things considered.

    However we know we have deficits and spending cuts all over over the shop , are we willing to forego any improvements in these areas to fund 2-3000 migrants?

    We have no choice. We are being run from Brussels/Frankfurt it makes zero difference what we want. Look at Kenny doffing his cap to Europe at every opportunity. Mark my words we will have at least 20k Syrians living here this time next year and we just all have to suck it up.


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  • #67
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    jon1981 wrote: »
    Aran islands...We'd then have a great justification to keep the airplane service! Ok I'm jesting.

    On a serious note, we cannot create ghettos or isolated communities. If we are to prevent social break down in later years we need to integrate people into society and not allow toxic communities to develop.

    In fairness the Aussies paid tiny Pacific Island nations like Nauru to house refugees during their border crisis. Maybe it's just what the Aran Islands need, we could also revive life on the Blaskets. :pac:


  • #68
    idnkph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭idnkph


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Can someone confirm if this is a strawman argument? I can never get my head around the concept!

    You need to study up on the straw man concept. But if you can't get your head around it now then maybe its just too difficult for you.
    But well done on trying slugger


  • #69
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Rhys Essien wrote: »
    I say a few lads here would find space in their homes for this woman 'Nour'.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34118978

    This quote says it all

    "Nour was finally able to declare herself to the country of her choice"

    Country of choice.
    Had a job somewhere to live in Turkey should have zero right of asylum
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  • #70
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    It would be more cost effective to not house them at all. What is your point?

    "Hey honey, this bottle of milk is half price, we should put the other one back."

    "What are you talking about? If you want to save money we should just not get milk at all! Derp."


  • #71
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Neyite wrote: »
    Which site is this?

    Air B&B


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  • #72
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Streetwalker wrote: »
    We have no choice. We are being run from Brussels/Frankfurt it makes zero difference what we want. Look at Kenny doffing his cap to Europe at every opportunity. Mark my words we will have at least 20k Claiming to be Syrians living here this time next year and we just all have to suck it up.

    And twice that number the next year once word spreads about the free money and excellent healthcare and benefits from the fine gaels.


  • #73
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Now we have moved to Iraq? So we need to take in Syrian refugees because US went to war in Iraq?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Iraq wasn't/isn't a total clusterfeck, but I still don't see how us taking in 1800 people is going to help the situation.

    It is nothing more than a PR stunt designed to get make the government look caring. Once the furore has died down the populcae will once again be asking why refugess are getting all the free houses, free prames etc

    All I am saying is that we have plenty of people already here that need help and attention. Older people are being housed in totally inadequate nursing homes, whole families are depending on Focus and SvP for housing/meals.

    Why this sudden rush to be seen to care, for is all this is

    Jesus titty ****ing Christ... Look, here, go learn something..., there's no point talking to you until then.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant


  • #74
    jester77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    There are 289,451 empty houses around Ireland, so there should be no problems finding accommodation for these poor people.


  • #75
    babyteeth
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭babyteeth


    Most of the country is empty. They could populate some of the rural places


  • #76
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    And exactly where are we going to put them. Disused hotels in Leitrim? Why should they accept that, they don't accept that they have to stay in Hungary so you can bet that they will want to housed close to each other, not too far from the local town.

    If I was a genuine refugee fleeing death in my own country, I wouldn't give a fcuk where I went, as long as it was far away from danger.

    If it was a hotel in Leitrim where I would be safe, so be it.


  • #77
    babyteeth
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭babyteeth


    Its fairly certain to say the that world is a much more volatile place since 2003


  • #78
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    jester77 wrote: »
    There are 289,451 empty houses around Ireland, so there should be no problems finding accommodation for these poor people.

    Show that stat from 2015 instead of 3 years ago.

    Then spare a thought for the cost & length of time it will take to purchase so many properties.


  • #79
    jamesbondings
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭jamesbondings


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Don't ever let them work here or settle here! We are only minding them before we send them back to Syria when the fighting they are so afraid of has finished!

    It's people like you who have this country buggered. Wouldnt wish what those poor souls are going through on my worst enemy but would love for you to have just a taste of it.

    I find people who make these horrible comments are generally uneducated fools who think the world owes them a living. I feel sorry for you and hope none of yours will ever need to escape a war torn country. As for refugees. Take 5000 we will make do we always do.

    Shame on you.


  • #80
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    I say we should deport any of the ungrateful bastards who are currently in Direct provision reception centres and complaining about the conditions and how Irish People are feeding and clothing them and also giving them money and free health care and education and we will have plenty of room for this new intake!

    Ha foggy don't you know they have it hard, gone from pleading for asylum to escape possible death, to dying of embarrassment that they don't have fibre broadband .. Proper integrated.

    an alternative universe, Ann Frank survives. because she was stuck in an attic all that time. Now she can only sleep in the penthouse suite...


  • #81
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Mod

    We already have a thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057487274 which can and is being used for discussion on this issue.

    Alternaticely you can use the Humanities forum here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=21 please read their charter before opening a thread.


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