Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

Looking at the tables in both sections of the senior hurling it still looks like Ballyduff and Lismore will meet in the relegation final. Definitely one not to be missed! I wouldn't back against Ballyduff winning that as I think they're physicality would be enough to see off Lismore.
Its surely a sign of the economic times we're in when you see both these clubs in this position due to players emigrating etc. Is the bigger picture to amalgamate different clubs? The same fate has happened Cloyne in Cork and Glenmore in Kilkenny,both losing their senior status but then parish rule applies in both those counties unlike Waterford.

archieknox wrote: »

Looking at the tables in both sections of the senior hurling it still looks like Ballyduff and Lismore will meet in the relegation final. Definitely one not to be missed! I wouldn't back against Ballyduff winning that as I think they're physicality would be enough to see off Lismore.
Its surely a sign of the economic times we're in when you see both these clubs in this position due to players emigrating etc. Is the bigger picture to amalgamate different clubs? The same fate has happened Cloyne in Cork and Glenmore in Kilkenny,both losing their senior status but then parish rule applies in both those counties unlike Waterford.

I hope I'm wrong, but I can see the situation in the West reverting to something like it was in the mid 60's when Abbeyside were the only senior team. This time the only difference being Dungarvan and maybe Fourmilewater will also be there.

Over the next number of years it's very difficult to see any of the teams in the far west maintaining senior status, let alone challenging for a county title. No disrespect to any of them but the numbers just are not there to compete with the numbers in the clubs in the city and around Dungarvan.

It's important to remember that when Tallow won in 1980, they were the first team from the West to win it in 30 years. What followed was a golden era into the early 90's for the likes of Tallow, Ballyduff and Lismore where they all won two county titles.

Since then, there has been a drought again, although at different times Lismore and Tallow have been competitive and admittedly, to their eternal credit, Ballyduff won one against the grain in 2007.

I don't think amalgamation will work.

Just think if Lismore get relegated this year. Next year, you could have Lismore, Ballysaggart, Tourin and Shamrocks all within a stones throw of each other, all with proud identities, playing in an intermediate championship. imagine then, maybe Cappoquin, Ballyduff or Tallow in that mix, even allowing for the high probability that one of them will be promoted each year. Imagine how competitive that would be.

Imagine then if the powers that be had the foresight get rid of the divisional championships. Then we might be on to something.

DeiseAbu1 wrote: »

The Big Question is will Bonmahon win the Intermediate football this year since they have exited from the junior hurling earlier than expected or will they flop as usual when it comes to it.

It has been the hot topic of conversation up and down the length and breadth of the county all week and we're equally divided into two sections: The ones that don't give a s**t and the other ones that REALLY don't give up s**t!!!!!

Alf Tupper wrote: »

I hope I'm wrong, but I can see the situation in the West reverting to something like it was in the mid 60's when Abbeyside were the only senior team. This time the only difference being Dungarvan and maybe Fourmilewater will also be there.

Over the next number of years it's very difficult to see any of the teams in the far west maintaining senior status, let alone challenging for a county title. No disrespect to any of them but the numbers just are not there to compete with the numbers in the clubs in the city and around Dungarvan.

It's important to remember that when Tallow won in 1980, they were the first team from the West to win it in 30 years. What followed was a golden era into the early 90's for the likes of Tallow, Ballyduff and Lismore where they all won two county titles.

Since then, there has been a drought again, although at different times Lismore and Tallow have been competitive and admittedly, to their eternal credit, Ballyduff won one against the grain in 2007.

I don't think amalgamation will work.

Just think if Lismore get relegated this year. Next year, you could have Lismore, Ballysaggart, Tourin and Shamrocks all within a stones throw of each other, all with proud identities, playing in an intermediate championship. imagine then, maybe Cappoquin, Ballyduff or Tallow in that mix, even allowing for the high probability that one of them will be promoted each year. Imagine how competitive that would be.

Imagine then if the powers that be had the foresight get rid of the divisional championships. Then we might be on to something.

I don't see it going that way, there is far too much hurling tradition in places like Lismore, Ballyduff and Tallow and they have produced some exceptional hurlers over the past thirty / forty years. Far better than anything that has come out of Dungarvan or Abbeyside for example (and no disrespect to these clubs). Clubs get out what they put in underage. Look at Passage for example. There is good work been done at underage level and there wouldn't be much difference population wise between Passage and Lismore.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Thread merged with Waterford Discussion thread. For all the discussion it'll no doubt create......

I feel a sudden need to talk about the Intermediate football championship.
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Er, prompt?

Alf Tupper wrote: »

I know there's a massive tradition of hurling in ain all those clubs.

The problem is the number of clubs within a small radius of one another.

In the parishes of Lismore and Cappoquin, there are two senior, two intermediate and one junior club.

With two more senior and one intermediate Club in close proximity (Ballyduff, Tallow and Shamrocks)

I suppose the obvious amalgamations would be the teams that play together underage.

Cois bride - Tallow and Shamrocks
St Carthages - lismore and ballysagart
And Affane/Cappoquin, Glen Rovers and Tourin to join

They would make for strong clubs in the west, is it ever likely to happen?
Probably not!

Connelly successful in his appeal. Disgrace..The gaa really is all about who you are not what you did..

JeffKenna wrote: »

Perhaps if we had appealed in 2004 we might have an All Ireland in the back pocket so I wouldn't blame Dublin.

Nah sure look at the harmless red card brick got last year in the league and they wouldn't remove it. Not sure in hurling such a ban would be removed if you are from a non big three county. It's a disgraceful decision from the Gaa. There must be some serious buffoons on those appeals committees. I've lost a lot of respect for them over this. It seriously undermines the referees too.

We'll always have the praise that we got when Mullane took his punishment on the chin. What fine upstanding honourable Gaels we were.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Another year of listening to kilkenny supporters. It could of been us today but still learning.

Jesus there was barely any celebrating in Croke Park. If that was us they be still dancing

How could it have been us? We were beaten fair and square in the semi final by a superior Kilkenny team

Two Waterford men named in the Sunday Game team of the year, Tadhg de Burca and Maurice Shanahan.

Well done both.

Will post up the full team in a minute