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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

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  • #5882
    freyners
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭freyners


    Thornley is after releasing a team similar to kinsella. Will be interesting to see how close it actually is


  • #5883
    [Deleted User]
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    smiley_face wrote: »
    Doubt Fitz will make the squad so wouldn't waste a match with him at 12.

    If he is starting on Saturday id say he is strongly in contention.


  • #5884
    connachta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    freyners wrote: »
    Murray kinsella is reporting a henshaw Fitz midfield with White possibly starting

    Shoud be great to see


  • #5885
    connachta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    That's the good order
    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Nailed on to get into the squad now that he is declared fit. If thats the team it looks 5 others are fighting it out for 3 spots.
    Guessing JS order at the moment is:
    1. Fitz
    2. Earls
    3. Zebo
    4. Kearney
    5. McFadden


  • #5886
    connachta
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I'd be absolutely shocked if Earls doesn't make the squad, he's probably the most talented out of all the guys in competition there. I'd be similarly shocked about Fitzgerald, the only justification for him not travelling would be fitness questions. I'd imagine both are on the plane.

    agree


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  • #5887
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    freyners wrote: »
    Thornley is after releasing a team similar to kinsella. Will be interesting to see how close it actually is

    Also says Trimble will be released to play for Ulster.


  • #5888
    Awesomeness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Also says Jones may be on the bench. So after looking at those teams and from what I have heard I have come to the conclusion that

    I have no idea who will travel at this stage in the backs department.


  • #5889
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    total former wrote: »
    Also says Trimble will be released to play for Ulster.

    Which directly contradicts what Kiss said the other day. And Thornley hasn't been as accurate of late with his predictions.


  • #5890
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    phog wrote: »
    How many caps has Earls under Joe? I think it's only two, he like Fitz and Trimble to a lesser degree was injured for most of games that Joe was manager.

    I doubt Earls has enough caps to be tried in the positions you mention.

    That still doesn't make anything I said not true


  • #5891
    vienne86
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    Thornely saying Fitz will be in the centre - didn't see that coming. He is certainly in the mix for making the cut, and like others, I would be shocked if Earls isn't included as well.


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  • #5892
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    smiley_face wrote: »
    Zebo is clearly the better 11

    Well that's just nonsense. He's clearly better in certain areas and Fitz is clearly better in others. Depending on what you want from a winger you could pick one or the other.

    I'd put money on Fitz travelling if he's fit. And I don't gamble.


  • #5893
    connachta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    With Zebo, Fitz, Bowe, Earls in contention, would anybody here imagine to drop Trimble?


  • #5894
    [Deleted User]
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    Well that's just nonsense. He's clearly better in certain areas and Fitz is clearly better in others. Depending on what you want from a winger you could pick one or the other.

    I'd put money on Fitz travelling if he's fit. And I don't gamble.

    Too mainstream?


  • #5895
    vienne86
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    connachta wrote: »
    With Zebo, Fitz, Bowe, Earls in contention, would anybody here imagine to drop Trimble?

    He was certainly talked up by Kiss this week - I would be expecting him to play some part on Saturday, regardless of what Thornley says.


  • #5896
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    molloyjh wrote: »
    And I don't gamble.
    Everyone gambles. When you cross the road you're taking a gamble. ;)


  • #5897
    connachta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    vienne86 wrote: »
    He was certainly talked up by Kiss this week - I would be expecting him to play some part on Saturday, regardless of what Thornley says.

    Ok, but I was talking about "absolute value"


  • #5898
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    connachta wrote: »
    With Zebo, Fitz, Bowe, Earls in contention, would anybody here imagine to drop Trimble?

    It's not impossible. Dave K is in the mix too. Lots of quality for limited spaces. I don't think Trimble is a definite by any means.


  • #5899
    connachta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭connachta


    total former wrote: »
    It's not impossible. Dave K is in the mix too. Lots of quality for limited spaces. I don't think Trimble is a definite by any means.

    IMO Trimble Jones Gilroy D Kearney out, Zebo Fitz Earls Bowe in
    Sorry, you saw it with Marmion/Boss debate, but I favour beautiful rugby:D


  • #5900
    molloyjh
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Too mainstream?

    Nah, I'm just s**t at it. :o


  • #5901
    aimee1
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    connachta wrote: »
    IMO Trimble Jones Gilroy D Kearney out, Zebo Fitz Earls Bowe in
    Sorry, you saw it with Marmion/Boss debate, but I favour beautiful rugby:D

    Yet you follow connacht :-P


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  • #5902
    aimee1
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    total former wrote: »
    It's not impossible. Dave K is in the mix too. Lots of quality for limited spaces. I don't think Trimble is a definite by any means.



    If thornley is right about saturdays team with earls (14) and DK (11) thats bad news for trimble and possibly felix jones.


  • #5903
    phog
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    Witheringeye wrote: »
    That still doesn't make anything I said not true

    But not possible either


  • #5904
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    aimee1 wrote: »
    If thornley is right about saturdays team with earls (14) and DK (11) thats bad news for trimble and possibly felix jones.

    Well, assuming Bowe and Rob K are certainties, that leaves four spots to fill for outside backs.

    If Earls and Fitz can show they can cover wing and centre, that puts them top of the pile.

    That leaves two from Trimble/Zebo/D Kearney/Jones/McFadden.

    If McFadden and Jones aren't named today, they're gone IMO. That means two from the remaining three. If Zebo is the back-up FB, then he goes and it's a straight shoot-out between Kearney and Trimble. I'd say that's 50-50.


  • #5905
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    Thornely saying Fitz will be in the centre - didn't see that coming. He is certainly in the mix for making the cut, and like others, I would be shocked if Earls isn't included as well.

    Didn't Fitz say he'd been dropping weight because he thought Joe saw him more as a wing option? Seems odd they'd throw him in at centre now?


  • #5906
    Witheringeye
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    He was certainly talked up by Kiss this week - I would be expecting him to play some part on Saturday, regardless of what Thornley says.

    All kiss really said was that he was available for selection


  • #5907
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    If all they're worried about with Trimble now is match fitness maybe letting him go play for Ulster is a good idea. Assume for a minute he's on Joe's list of definite players to travel and he's still struggling to choose the last few with Fitz, Earls, Kearney, Zebo etc still in the mix it makes sense to send Trimble off to get as close to 80 minutes of rugby as he can while still allowing the previously mentioned players to get 40/50 minutes each to sell themselves one last time.


  • #5908
    molloyjh
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    Witheringeye wrote: »
    All kiss really said was that he was available for selection

    Did he not say he'll definitely play? I'm fairly sure he did, but my memory isn't the most reliable....


  • #5909
    [Deleted User]
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    Wouldn't it be gas if Joe was making all these random decisions just to mess with people on Boards.ie.


    Hi Joe!


  • #5910
    Mr Tickle
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    total former wrote: »
    Well, assuming Bowe and Rob K are certainties, that leaves four spots to fill for outside backs.

    If Earls and Fitz can show they can cover wing and centre, that puts them top of the pile.

    That leaves two from Trimble/Zebo/D Kearney/Jones/McFadden.

    If McFadden and Jones aren't named today, they're gone IMO. That means two from the remaining three. If Zebo is the back-up FB, then he goes and it's a straight shoot-out between Kearney and Trimble. I'd say that's 50-50.


    This seems pretty spot on. arguably d.kearney could push zebo as a FB but since we haven't seen joe do this yet it's probably not the case.


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  • #5911
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Did he not say he'll definitely play? I'm fairly sure he did, but my memory isn't the most reliable....

    Sorry I'm wrong he did day he would play! But he didn't specify whether it was ulster or ireland!


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