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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread IV

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  • #5822
    Clearlier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    bilston wrote: »
    In 2003 we had Australia and Argentina and then France and Argentina in 2007, so we have had our share of tough pools.

    We also had New Zealand and Wales in '95.


  • #5823
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    Witheringeye wrote: »
    I think Heaslip will start, SOB got a game at 8 which implies he'll move over if Jamie's injured so there's not as much need to get Jordi game time.
    RE: back row combination,
    With the objective of sharing around the match time, and to see SOB and Murphy play in two positions each, these would be my preferred selections:

    Against Wales:
    6. POM, 7. Henry, 8. Heaslip, 20. Murphy.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Murphy for POM around 50 mins.

    Against England:
    6. POM, 7. SOB, 8. Heaslip, 20. Murphy.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Murphy for Heaslip around 50 mins.


  • #5824
    Ceadog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Ceadog


    Henry played 8 for Ulster for years but I doubt we'll see him there.

    Actually, all of our backrow options have a decent amount of experience at 8, don't they? Heaslip is pretty much the only "specialist" backrower travelling.


  • #5825
    aimee1
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    smiley_face wrote: »
    RE: back row combination,
    With the objective of sharing around the match time, and to see SOB and Murphy play in two positions each, these would be my preferred selections:

    Against Wales:
    6. POM, 7. Henry, 8. Heaslip, 20. Murphy.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Murphy for POM around 50 mins.

    Against England:
    6. POM, 7. SOB, 8. Heaslip, 20. Murphy.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Murphy for Heaslip around 50 mins.

    Wouldnt be surprised to see henderson get a run in the back row at some stage


  • #5826
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 24,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Clearlier wrote: »
    We also had New Zealand and Wales in '95.

    We weren't really of the same standard back then, were we? It wasn't a case of 3 massive teams being in the same pool. Or maybe it was, I have the vaguest memories of that WC.


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  • #5827
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    RE: 2nd row combination,
    With the objective of sharing around the match time, and to see POC play a full 80 in his last Home appearance for Ireland, these would be my preferred selections:

    Against Wales:
    4. Ryan, 5. POC, 19. Henderson.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Henderson for Ryan around 50 mins.

    Against England:
    4. Toner, 5. POC, 19. Henderson.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Henderson for POC around 50 mins.


  • #5828
    b.gud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,878 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Ceadog wrote: »
    Henry played 8 for Ulster for years but I doubt we'll see him there.

    Actually, all of our backrow options have a decent amount of experience at 8, don't they? Heaslip is pretty much the only "specialist" backrower travelling.

    Didn't Henry play 8 for a while in the wales or Scotland match a couple of weeks ago?


  • #5829
    smiley_face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭smiley_face


    aimee1 wrote: »
    Wouldnt be surprised to see henderson get a run in the back row at some stage

    Yes, possibly, but I don't see Tuohy featuring again, leaving 4 2nd Rows for 2 more matches, so more than likely Henderson will be needed to play in the 2nd Row IMO.


  • #5830
    Ceadog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Ceadog


    b.gud wrote: »
    Didn't Henry play 8 for a while in the wales or Scotland match a couple of weeks ago?

    Possibly in the Scotland game, but he copped a yellow about 1 minute after he got on the field and then there was less than 10 minutes left when he got back on so I'm not sure I'd even count that.


  • #5831
    Ceadog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Ceadog


    b.gud wrote: »
    Didn't Henry play 8 for a while in the wales or Scotland match a couple of weeks ago?

    Possibly in the Scotland game, but he copped a yellow about 1 minute after he got on the field and then there was less than 10 minutes left when he got back on so I'm not sure I'd even count that.

    EDIT: I tell a lie, that was the Wales game. Getting muddled up here :P


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  • #5832
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Clearlier wrote: »
    We also had New Zealand and Wales in '95.

    True. From memory that Welsh game was muck, but we won so it was ok.


  • #5833
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    We weren't really of the same standard back then, were we? It wasn't a case of 3 massive teams being in the same pool. Or maybe it was, I have the vaguest memories of that WC.

    Ourselves and Wales were dreadful and NZ were streets ahead. I think we gave NZ a pretty good game for about 30 minutes IIRC...


  • #5834
    Yeah_Right
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    smiley_face wrote: »
    RE: 2nd row combination,
    With the objective of sharing around the match time, and to see POC play a full 80 in his last Home appearance for Ireland, these would be my preferred selections:

    Against Wales:
    4. Ryan, 5. POC, 19. Henderson.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Henderson for Ryan around 50 mins.

    Against England:
    4. Toner, 5. POC, 19. Henderson.
    If no injuries, then aim to bring on Henderson for POC around 50 mins.

    Game wrapped up with 15 to go. Sub POC off so he can get the ovation he deserves.


  • #5835
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    Game wrapped up with 15 to go. Sub POC off so he can get the ovation he deserves.

    Yeah this is inevitable.


  • #5836
    The Lost Sheep
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    bilston wrote: »
    In 2003 we had Australia and Argentina and then France and Argentina in 2007, so we have had our share of tough pools.
    Yes tough pools but neither of those are equivalents of Pool A this year. 3 of top 6 in the world.


  • #5837
    [Deleted User]
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Yes tough pools but neither of those are equivalents of Pool A this year. 3 of top 6 in the world.

    1. I'm glad we're not in this group.
    2. I'm glad this group exists though - should be great!


  • #5838
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    bilston wrote: »
    Ourselves and Wales were dreadful and NZ were streets ahead. I think we gave NZ a pretty good game for about 30 minutes IIRC...

    Gary Halpin scored a try and gave the fingers to the NZ players that he got past....Classy!



  • #5839
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,356 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    did the commentator say "theyre really going to hit this ba$tard" ??


  • #5840
    Wang King
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wang King


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    did the commentator say "theyre really going to hit this ba$tard" ??

    Pass.......yah deaf barsteward!
    ;)


  • #5841
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    Just wondering....who comes in for henshaw if he's injured?

    Madigan is actually the only other player in the (expected) squad who's played much at 12 this season but I couldn't see joe putting him in there. I actually don't mind him as a 12 for Leinster but against the likes of France I'd be very worried about his ability to make tackles before the gain line.
    I think the most likely outcome would be Payne to 12 and earls at 13. I'd be happy enough with this. Payne has all the skills to play 12 and we all know what earls is capable of.
    My preferred option would be fitz to 13 and Payne to 12 but it's unlikely. These two would be beasts in defence and would still offer a lot with ball in hand


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  • #5842
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Yeah I'd imagine we'd see Earls at 13, I think he's the next best option there.

    Then again it's not like we've seen a tonne of Payne at 12. Earls has actually started at 12 for Ireland before as has Fitzgerald, but I'd still think Payne sliding in is most likely. I'd hope it's not Madigan.

    If Henshaw ships a bad injury that rules him out entirely I'd imagine they call in Cave and he'd play 12.


  • #5843
    freyners
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    Murray kinsella is reporting a henshaw Fitz midfield with White possibly starting


  • #5844
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    freyners wrote: »
    Murray kinsella is reporting a henshaw Fitz midfield with White possibly starting
    His "Possible" team is:
    15. Rob Kearney
    14. Keith Earls
    13. Luke Fitzgerald
    12. Robbie Henshaw
    11. Dave Kearney
    10. Johnny Sexton
    9. Conor Murray
    1. Jack McGrath
    2. Richardt Strauss
    3. Nathan White
    4. Iain Henderson
    5. Paul O’Connell
    6. Peter O’Mahony
    7. Jordi Murphy
    8. Jamie Heaslip


  • #5845
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    Stating the obvious here but that team doesn't include Trimble...


  • #5846
    Wang King
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    total former wrote: »
    Stating the obvious here but that team doesn't include Trimble...

    More to the point, it doesn't include Jones either!


  • #5847
    Ceadog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Ceadog


    Good to see DK and Nathan White getting a proper run. Both looked very good in their brief cameos so far.

    That Henderson/O'Connell SR pairing looks terrifying. Hate to be a Welshman this weekend :D


  • #5848
    Witheringeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Witheringeye


    Can't wait to see fitz at 13


  • #5849
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    total former wrote: »
    Stating the obvious here but that team doesn't include Trimble...

    Or Best who wouldn't have started a game yet.


  • #5850
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I'd hold your horses there folks, that's a possible team named by someone who doesn't have an inside track that we're aware of. It is possible, but I wouldn't stake my house on it.


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  • #5851
    Ceadog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭Ceadog


    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'd hold your horses there folks, that's a possible team named by someone who doesn't have an inside track that we're aware of. It is possible, but I wouldn't stake my house on it.

    Normally I'd agree but Kinsella doesn't seem the type just pull a team out of thin air and post it as fact. Plus it's quite a realistic team.


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