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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #3812
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    I had a good chat with a French neighbour that keeps 140 BA suckler cows and produces 200k Ducks a year. He was saying that the Irish beef is fabulous and it has to be so because it never goes indoors...I asked him how much time do his animals spend indoors...could be up to 100days says he!
    Needless to say that I didn't bother pointing out that a 5-6month winter period is common in the whest...
    Why not capitalise on a perceived advantage?

    Lol, good man Dawg. Still wearing the jersey


  • #3813
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,446 ✭✭✭tanko


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Sooo.
    The average BASE price I'll get this year is 36.97cpl. On this thread people (with massive MS) will be hard fought to attain this.
    Did anyone actually read the Teagasc document that Kowtow posted?
    TBH I've new appreciation for Teagasc.


    For those of you that didn't read it the synopsis goes like...The larger dairy herds can compete with the EU and the rest of the world...but the rest are phucked. That includes the 'average' family farm.
    Read it please. It's what I've been bullshyting about for toooo long.
    The problem is land price and scale...

    How many cows will a "larger dairy herd" have?


  • #3814
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    tanko wrote: »
    How many cows will a "larger dairy herd" have?

    ~10% more than you had last year, or ~100% more than you had 10 years ago.


  • #3815
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Dawggone wrote: »

    IMHO there is a very slim chance of a plan B but it requires a complete change of attitude of the processors. (

    A complete coop.... Or even an entire country producing A2A grass produced milk. Could be up and running in 5 years. Gold mine... Very hard to replicate anywhere in the world


  • #3816
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    ~10% more than you had last year, or ~100% more than you had 10 years ago.

    If we all kept a few less me might get paid for the milk.


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  • #3817
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    mf240 wrote: »
    If we all kept a few less me might get paid for the milk.

    Very true.... I'll be a gentelman, I'll let you go first. :)


  • #3818
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,446 ✭✭✭tanko


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Very true.... I'll be a gentelman, I'll let you go first. :)

    That's exactly what I was thinking, who will be the first to cut numbers?


  • #3819
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Milk just collected here. Driver says ours is going to wexford for last few wks but a different lorry collects my neighbours who's an ex wexford supplier now supplying glanbia

    That's bloody rediculas. Who's paying for this double traveling. Didn't mind when ours was going to ballyragget but why have 2 different lorry's on same road going to same place


  • #3820
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Milk just collected here. Driver says ours is going to wexford for last few wks but a different lorry collects my neighbours who's an ex wexford supplier now supplying glanbia

    That's bloody rediculas. Who's paying for this double traveling. Didn't mind when ours was going to ballyragget but why have 2 different lorry's on same road going to same place
    Only a guess maby totally wrong but you've very high solids milk ,your neighbour may not and yer milk could be processed into different products


  • #3821
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A run has to start somewhere and end somewhere, we are first on our run. Different lorry collects the milk on farm a mile down the road. Our lorry heads in a different direction to that farm


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  • #3822
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Only a guess maby totally wrong but you've very high solids milk ,your neighbour may not and yer milk could be processed into different products

    Yeah complete different type of cow iykwim. Don't know how solids compare though


  • #3823
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Milk just collected here. Driver says ours is going to wexford for last few wks but a different lorry collects my neighbours who's an ex wexford supplier now supplying glanbia

    That's bloody rediculas. Who's paying for this double traveling. Didn't mind when ours was going to ballyragget but why have 2 different lorry's on same road going to same place

    Once the lorries have full loads it makes no odds gg. Different lorries collect me and the neighbours as well but in general it would be a route to fill the truck as one truck wouldn't do that many farms anyway so likely to be in same areas anyway


  • #3824
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    Mine sometimes goes to Wexford, sometimes ballyragget, ballytore,even Drogheda and Cavan and often the driver is on his third load


  • #3825
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Dawggone wrote: »
    French farmers/unions are getting strong support now from their German counterparts.
    Big activity now being planned for sept 7(?).
    French politicos are now admitting that farmers are the ones suffering from US/EU hegemony.
    Changes afoot?

    Just after listening to an interview by Coveney. A lot of talk about intervention and intervention price. And an announcement in the next few weeks. Coveney seems to be lobbying for a 24c intervention price.


  • #3826
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Just after listening to an interview by Coveney. A lot of talk about intervention and intervention price. And an announcement in the next few weeks. Coveney seems to be lobbying for a 24c intervention price.
    read somewhere the other day it would take 18 months to change the intervention price, is this true?


  • #3827
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    Who in the name of god are the eejits lobbying for 24c? Its should be 34+
    Effectively they want us to supply milk for just the average sfp say 10k
    All hours for nothing so highly paid executives can sell our product on?

    Typical mindset
    Has nobody any self respect?


  • #3828
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Milk just collected here. Driver says ours is going to wexford for last few wks but a different lorry collects my neighbours who's an ex wexford supplier now supplying glanbia

    That's bloody rediculas. Who's paying for this double traveling. Didn't mind when ours was going to ballyragget but why have 2 different lorry's on same road going to same place

    Your milk is going to WX for cheese. I'd suspect because less water in it, hence lorry is actually more efficient


  • #3829
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    Who in the name of god are the eejits lobbying for 24c? Its should be 34+
    Effectively they want us to supply milk for just the average sfp say 10k
    All hours for nothing so highly paid executives can sell our product on?

    Typical mindset
    Has nobody any self respect?

    I think intervention only slows down recovery. Let it bottom out ta fcuk and then it will start to recover .


  • #3830
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Your milk is going to WX for cheese. I'd suspect because less water in it, hence lorry is actually more efficient

    I thought the lower the fat% of milk the better for cheese making.
    Maybe I'm wrong?


  • #3831
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,161 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    Who in the name of god are the eejits lobbying for 24c? Its should be 34+
    Effectively they want us to supply milk for just the average sfp say 10k
    All hours for nothing so highly paid executives can sell our product on?

    Typical mindset
    Has nobody any self respect?


    remember butter mountains and milk lakes? There is zero interest from the EU to go back to this. Intervention is a safety net but its not there for lads to make a profit. It's just there to stop the losses getting too big.

    remember, the higher intervention is the more you keep big Dutch and British indoor systems pumping out milk


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  • #3832
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,817 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    http://ow.ly/RbO0b


  • #3833
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    http://ow.ly/RbO0b

    Lowest in Europe with there 'great' performance


  • #3834
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Lowest in Europe with there 'great' performance

    Pathetic allright


  • #3835
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Milk just collected here. Driver says ours is going to wexford for last few wks but a different lorry collects my neighbours who's an ex wexford supplier now supplying glanbia

    That's bloody rediculas. Who's paying for this double traveling. Didn't mind when ours was going to ballyragget but why have 2 different lorry's on same road going to same place

    You don't know the half of it. We're collected by the same company as yourself and there's no set route. So you don't know what time the milk will be collected at and lately there's never the same driver two days in a row. I like you the milk is going down to wexford for last month or so. A lorry could collect our milk but not collect neighbours milk for hours after.


  • #3836
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Tiop, centenary, arrabawn, kerry and glambis all around this area! Nrth tipp


  • #3837
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    The global dairy trade auction is up 15%
    https://www.globaldairytrade.info


  • #3838
    red bull
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭red bull


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Tiop, centenary, arrabawn, kerry and glambis all around this area! Nrth tipp

    + dairygold


  • #3839
    Sacrolyte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    The global dairy trade auction is up 15%
    https://www.globaldairytrade.info

    Sam. Your 3 days late. Lol


  • #3840
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Base 25.5c/l received 28.275c/l net after levies at 3.54p and 4.02bf.


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  • #3841
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    remember butter mountains and milk lakes? There is zero interest from the EU to go back to this. Intervention is a safety net but its not there for lads to make a profit. It's just there to stop the losses getting too big.

    remember, the higher intervention is the more you keep big Dutch and British indoor systems pumping out milk
    Legislation then to regulate the market
    We all know who has too much power and who takes most margin from milk
    I wasn't making a point on intervention per say,just on the injustice of the profit distribution
    Yes and perhaps it is a justification for quotas too


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