The 2015 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

BonnieSituation wrote: »

But not precedent enough to punish Shields etc.

It's mind-boggling. Duffy was standing right in front of him when it happened and took no action on McCann and still decided to issue the red card.




Come on? You think that an 8-week ban is justifiable for this and yet Liam Rushe only gets a one-game ban for the strike on MoShan?

Kevin Keane will likely get a one-game ban as well for his strike on Michael Murphy?

Do you think that Michael Shields should be retrospectively punished as well? Or JOD?

The justification for some of the discplinary procedures in the GAA is beyond common-sense.



You think that this is going to influence kids up and down the country?

This over egging the influence of these players on children is mental. I recall influence on me as a kid from from the likes of Paul Curran, john O'Leary, Peter Canavan, Páidí Ó Sé etc. The great players influence. Diving chancers don't.

And if kids start flinging themselves to the ground as a result of this then it is the responsibility of parents and coaches and referees to stamp it out. Not Tiernan McCann, not Michael Sheields and not James O'Donoghue!

castletownman wrote: »

I think this ban is going to go the way of another unprecedented suspension earlier on in the year, namely Andrew Shore's three month ban (iirc) for playing a sevens tournament in England and failing to register. That subsequently got over-turned on appeal, and I think this will too.

As an aside, how only player can get retrospective punishment for simulation and Liam Rushe can only get a one-game ban for unsporting behaviour is a bit lop-sided.

I mentioned this earlier and it wasn't bitten.

The fact is, no one knows and the CCCC is bring the game into disrepute with this shoite.

My thoughts to what I've read on here:
1. Someone said Tyrone got no respect for their AIrls in the 00s. Absolute bull. Tyrone were the team of the decade. Rant on about Kerry/Armagh all you want but the fact is when it counted in Croke Park Tyrone came out on top. Trust me it pains me to praise Tyrone as a Donegal man.

2. People are saying so what set the precedent now and ban him. Absolutely not. McCanns dive was a disgrace but no worse than Shields or any dive before him. They all dived with the same intent. Do we retrospectivelly ban him and the others?
Yes a precedent needs to be set from next season, not when it suits us in August.
It would have been like banning Sean Cav on the Wedneday 2years ago after Monaghan for what helped eventually created the black card.
Not fair; absolutely not fair. You need consistency across the board.
I will 100% support retrospective action taking against simulation when EVERYONE faces the same consequences.

3. Trust me Tyrone are no angels; we have suffered at their hands for years but I will not jump on the slamming Tyrone bandwagon when it suits me. I want to see all rules applied fairly across the spectrum; not targeting one player breaking them when it suits us.
A big movement must be made to ensure there is proper measures in place to end this for 2016.

4. Marty Duffy. An absolute disgrace. He is the one who should be banned. 5 yards away from the incident. Cannot help but feel this action is being taking by the GAA to help them brush his ineptness under the carpet. I know reffing is a tough job but god surely there is one better ref out there not on the championship ref panel. Surely?


Anyway rant over :-) Be interesting to see how this plays out!!

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Yeah, David Gough. He reffed the second game.

Great post. And a pretty good summation of most of the rational talk on the incident.

Gough is on the ref panel. Think it has 16 members? Must be someone we can clear Marty out for. A disaster.

danganabu wrote: »

What I said was that at the moment public opinion is very much against Tyrone and the player involved, but if the GAA persist with this trumped up charge then that could very well shift opinion on this and Tyrone may end up being portrayed as the victims.

If you havent time to read my posts's please dont quote them in a reply, with all respect!

Okay you have clarified that so
Thanks
In relation to your posts no problem point taken but all I askfrom you with respect is you show my posts with respect the same courtesy as let's be fair on numerous threads you have done what you claim you don't want don't to your posts to mine many times to be fair

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I didn't read the part where he said "not on the ref panel".
I read his post as if he was saying are there any daycent refs out there at all.

Obviously Gough is on the panel given that he reffed a game that day as well.

Ah yeah sorry should have been clearer. Yeah I firmly believe we need to get Marty away from seeing any championship action. Gough is good your correct there.

jjdonegal wrote: »

Gough is on the ref panel. Think it has 16 members? Must be someone we can clear Marty out for. A disaster.

Jaysis you can start with Padraig O'Sullivan before you get to Marty imo

I think there was 40 odd refs on the NFL panel that showed up for the fitness (bleep test etc) in DCU in January

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Dear God yes.

I still hate Marty. And take Mo with him as well.

Honestly, I think if you know a referees name he's not good enough. I actually had to look up who Gough was on Sunday

Gough came onto my radar from the furore about him wearing his gay pride wristband at the Dublin/Tyrone game this year

Peist2007 wrote: »

Someone said Tyrone will eventually look like victims in this. I think they already are. As i said, i have no love for Tyrone and have suffered at their hands a few times, but the fact remains that Monaghan spent 55 mins dragging them down to their level last Saturday. Amazing that Monaghan get off scot free really. They were incredibly negative for the whole game, pulling and dragging, clear caught out goading of opposition players and plenty of sly digs (take a bow full forward Hughes).

Mickey Harte will take huge motivation from the furore since. Kerry fans on here talking about the utter disgrace of it all are playing right into Tyrone's hands. They are far from angels but there were two of them at it last Saturday.

Please tell me how Monaghan have got off scot free. Two years ago Cavanagh rugby challenged his Tyrone side to victory and on Saturday Tyrone bought cheap frees with diving. How you can think that Tyrone are victims is beyond absurd. They have been using underhand tactics, screaming in players ears to get other teams fired up which unfortunately got to Monaghan. They tried it with Donegal earlier in the championship, yet Monaghan seemed to have caused it even though the Donegal Monaghan match was a clean affair.

DoctaDee wrote: »

Gough came onto my radar from the furore about him wearing his gay pride wristband at the Dublin/Tyrone game this year

I knew he looked familiar.

tayto lover wrote: »

What length of ban did Meath's Joe Sheridan receive a few years for his blatant cheating act when he dived over the line in the Leinster Final?
Colm O'Rourke has a short memory.

lol

He didn't get half enough

Doesn't look like construction work on the bridge will be starting anytime soon ......