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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    Prices hadn't changed in Blackrock as of 11.20 this morning, I was having coffee and a sausage bap btw although there were a few having liquid breakfasts, and looked a bit rough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Loving it, two of us, one was drinking Staropramen one on Thatchers Gold.

    We are both now on Carlsberg so the price of a round has dropped from about €5.90 to €5.50:D.

    So do you know which beers are still available for €2.50? Any of the nice ones?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    So do you know which beers are still available for €2.50? Any of the nice ones?

    All cask afaik, but that's as rare as a dodo in the 40ft :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,808 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    n97 mini wrote:
    I wouldn't be surprised if Bray (Hollands which is for sale?)


    Wouldn't be big enough I'd say. Somewhere on the seafront seems more likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Chelon


    So in just about every other pub in the land the cask would be classed as a "craft" offering and offered at a higher price than the regular lagers etc.

    Wetherspoons are raising the prices of the keg stuff and keeping the cask pegged at €2.50. Not sure why they're doing that but have to love them for it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Paz-CCFC


    Chelon wrote: »
    So in just about every other pub in the land the cask would be classed as a "craft" offering and offered at a higher price than the regular lagers etc.

    Wetherspoons are raising the prices of the keg stuff and keeping the cask pegged at €2.50. Not sure why they're doing that but have to love them for it.

    The Franciscan Well sell their cask beer for cheaper than keg, generally a euro cheaper (€4 v €5). The Bierhaus sell theirs for €4.20 a pint, but it's €3 if you're a Beoir member. Their regular kegged beers tend to be €4.50-€5 a pint.

    I thought the idea of cask beer being cheaper was that it has a much shorter shelf live than kegs, so they give an incentive to get more people drinking and to get through the cask more quickly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Prices hadn't changed in Blackrock as of 11.20 this morning, I was having coffee and a sausage bap btw although there were a few having liquid breakfasts, and looked a bit rough.

    'Cause only rough types have liquid breakfasts. Maybe they were binmen who'd be up since 4.

    I got some funny looks in Leixlip a few years ago trying to buy cans at 8am in the morning. They didn't know Id been up since 4pm the previous day doing the night shift at intel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    syklops wrote: »
    'Cause only rough types have liquid breakfasts. Maybe they were binmen who'd be up since 4.

    I got some funny looks in Leixlip a few years ago trying to buy cans at 8am in the morning. They didn't know Id been up since 4pm the previous day doing the night shift at intel.

    No these guys definitely weren't bin men or straight off the night shift at Intel.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Paz-CCFC wrote: »
    The Franciscan Well sell their cask beer for cheaper than keg, generally a euro cheaper (€4 v €5). The Bierhaus sell theirs for €4.20 a pint, but it's €3 if you're a Beoir member. Their regular kegged beers tend to be €4.50-€5 a pint.
    The Bull & Castle also does cask beer at €4.50 a pint: a fair bit cheaper than the keg options.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    All cask afaik, but that's as rare as a dodo in the 40ft :-)

    Recently they committed to always having at least one of them in stock, out of Broadside, Ghost Ship and Hobgoblin. Not sure if this has changed with the menu revisions this week or if any of those have in fact increased in price.

    Will be going there for a pint with a mate later in the week, will update here.

    In all honesty I feel that currency issues outside of Wetherspons' control are the main fuelling factors behind these price increases - the most telling signal being the advertisement for the cider festival this July, which changed from offering cider at €1.95 a pint to €2.95.

    Why would they bother printing off posters for the €1.95 stuff if that was always planned to go up by a euro? Total waste. That says to me that the price increases aren't on Wetherspoons' end but are the result of unexpected increases in operating costs.

    As Wetherspoons are a UK chain this could be down to a number of factors - Euro/GBP exchange rate, supplier / manufacturer price increases, any tax changes over in the UK or even a drop in business in the UK despite a boom in Irish trade.

    Given all this, it's incredibly difficult to predict whether they'll increase again, or whether they might cut them back down a bit at some point. Wetherspoons have announced price cuts for UK pubs in the past, so at the very least it's not unheard of for their prices to decrease on occasion as well as just increasing.

    Regardless, it's still better value than anywhere else in Dun Laoghaire. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Only one Spoons opening in Cork now. The planning application in Douglas has been deemed withdrawn as they didn't respond to the F.I request within the requisite time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Seems odd they'd just drop it; I presume there's nothing to stop them reapplying again? Or has anyone heard anything about it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    JohnK wrote: »
    Seems odd they'd just drop it; I presume there's nothing to stop them reapplying again? Or has anyone heard anything about it?

    They can reapply all they like. The FI was a bit ridiculous and in any event the design of the bar was ****ty enough.
    Roll on September 8th, hopefully sub €3 Beamish for the first time in years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    They can reapply all they like. The FI was a bit ridiculous and in any event the design of the bar was ****ty enough.
    Roll on September 8th, hopefully sub €3 Beamish for the first time in years.

    If they bring back Beamish to their range, that is.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    There's an interview with Tim Martin in the CAMRA magazine this month. He mentions the myth behind the Wetherspoon name and says he originally found running a pub very difficult and it reminded him of a student teacher he had in New Zealand who had trouble controlling his class, Mr Wetherspoon. The story then got exaggerated to the teacher telling him he'd never amount to anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    If they bring back Beamish to their range, that is.

    They never took it off albeit for about a week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Anyone been to the Old Boro?

    Been to the Great Wood. Lovely spot, but major teething problems with food especially.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,379 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    40ft facebook shows they got stella, carlsberg, san miguel & tuborg all on tap.

    https://www.facebook.com/thefortyfoot

    some poster asking why the prices went up and where the ales went.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Anyone been to the Old Boro?
    .

    Yes, was there at the weekend. Busy but not at all mental... no real problems in terms of queues at the bar. Managed to get a "booth" style table when we went in about 21:00.

    I had about 4 pints of "Doom Bar" off the cask - they had none of the other casks available, which was disappointing because I was looking forward to trying Hobgoblin, which I like from the bottle.

    Doombar is grand, very easy to drink and I find my pint disappearing very fast without really noticing. Moved on to "Shipyard" I think - a quite citrusy IPA, was serve very cold and I have to say I quite liked it and it hit the spot - a real thirst quencher - reminded me of Canterbury Jack (red ale) which I love.

    My wife was a bit peckish and ordered a baked potato around 22:30 - wasn't great, was luke warm as well. The food menu has a lot of variety but between my wife's snack and seeing some of the other food served, I wouldn't be too pushed to try anything other than a light snack.

    Table/waiting staff were all very pleasant. The bouncer was a little bit much... wandering around the venue, standing around staring at tables - there didn't appear to me to be any rowdy bunches... Mostly an older 30+ clientele.

    There was a duty manager behind the bar at one point and she was atrocious... very pleasant but didn't seem like someone who had worked behind a bar before... A customer in front of me asked for a Jameson and White and he was asked "sorry, what's a white?". Prior to that she had told him that they didn't serve Jameson, but he pointed out that he had been drinking it all night. She had then said they ran out so he ordered JD but she came back to say that they had "just" received delivery of a few boxes of Jameson (seemed strange after 23:00 on a Friday night)...

    All in all, a fine experience, would go back, but it won't replace my regular(s).


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Doombar is grand, very easy to drink and I find my pint disappearing very fast without really noticing.

    I also find that cask ale goes down quickly.

    It's sort of creamy.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭revz


    Update from Blanchardstown last night; was at the steak club:

    Pros:
    the steak itself is decent. Nothing gourmet, but for €14.50 for a 14oz Angus rump steak with a pint, hard to go wrong.

    Good bottle/can selection, had the Rogue mocha porter which I couldn't get last time I was out in Blackrock - also got charged €2.45 for my bottle, but a friend later got charged the €3.25. Had everything on the menu I think (can/bottle-wise), including all the Sixpoint cans.

    They have Leann Follain down on the menu as a 330ml bottle (thus €3.25, whereas 500ml bottles are €3.75), but in the fridge they have 500ml bottles :). A 500ml bottle of Leann Follain for €3.25 (50c cheaper than O'Hara's stout) - pretty good.

    I like the layout. Fairly spacious, and with huge amount of glass/windows and tall ceilings I think it's nicer than TTT (which I'd find a tiny bit cramped) - never been to 40ft.

    Cons:
    Absolutely no cask ale at all. Considering it's the only thing left on the menu that's supposed to be €2.50, a tad annoying. They did have quite a few cider taps on for the cider festival, but I'm not much of a cider drinker.

    Steak was overcooked. Friend asked for medium, I asked for rare. Mine was medium, friend's was well-done (completely cooked through). Also, another friend joined us later on and asked for the same steak, realised he was charged €2 less than we were (which would be for the 8oz steak) - went back to them to correct the order, they said no it was the 14oz steak he was getting, and 20 minutes later he's served up the 8oz steak. At least this one was cooked properly though (thicker steak and was cooked rare as asked).

    Service was shocking at one point when (slightly) busy. Was waiting 10 mins to be served, there was a family asking about the food/cider taking up one member of bar staff, grand. There's another staff member dealing with someone else. Then there's one putting glasses away, and two from as far as I could see twiddling their thumbs at the end of the bar, while a small queue is starting to form where we were. I can only assume staff are told to stick to their area and not jump in behind the bar even when needed.
    Didn't help that a friend of the staff member serving drinks started talking to them as they were just about to serve me.....and no problem to them at all looked after their friend first after they skipped the queue that was forming.

    There was a pretty big fight/commotion at one point too, but this should probably go up in the pros section as the staff/manager dealt with it as best they could, and the Gardai were called fairly quickly.

    So yeah - I'd pretty much echo what a lot of people are saying, there's definitely some teething problems, and without the cask ales you're not gonna be saving a massive amount on your drinks, but I do think there's a time and a place for it, so I'll be back, just not as regularly as I would've been had it kept the old pricing model.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Uriel. wrote: »

    There was a duty manager behind the bar at one point and she was atrocious... very pleasant but didn't seem like someone who had worked behind a bar before... A customer in front of me asked for a Jameson and White and he was asked "sorry, what's a white?". Prior to that she had told him that they didn't serve Jameson, but he pointed out that he had been drinking it all night. She had then said they ran out so he ordered JD but she came back to say that they had "just" received delivery of a few boxes of Jameson (seemed strange after 23:00 on a Friday night)...

    I am a fan of JD WS.

    But I do hear a lot of stories like this, I'd say it's down to UK-style corporate training?

    Min-wage untrained staff, or with little training, maybe.

    Imagine saying they don't serve Jameson..........

    Still, I will return.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Geuze wrote: »
    I am a fan of JD WS.

    But I do hear a lot of stories like this, I'd say it's down to UK-style corporate training?<snip>
    not sure.

    I visited their pub in downtown Reading and the lad behind the bar was more than happy to go through their range of beers and give me a sample of any I was interested in.

    I was impressed enough (first time in the chain) that I made sure to plan a visit when in London later in the week with the family for lunch.
    Also had no problems there, down by tower bridge for a very busy sunday lunchtime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Geuze wrote: »
    I am a fan of JD WS.

    But I do hear a lot of stories like this, I'd say it's down to UK-style corporate training?

    They seem to do ok in the UK, most likely an Irish problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    Geuze wrote: »
    Min-wage untrained staff, or with little training, maybe.
    I went into an O'Neills pub in London and asked the barmaid, who was leaning on the Guinness tap, for "three pints of stout please" - only to be informed that they didnt serve stout. OK, I said, Ill have three pints of Guinness then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Lucena


    not sure.

    I visited their pub in downtown Reading and the lad behind the bar was more than happy to go through their range of beers and give me a sample of any I was interested in.

    I was impressed enough (first time in the chain) that I made sure to plan a visit when in London later in the week with the family for lunch.
    Also had no problems there, down by tower bridge for a very busy sunday lunchtime.

    Any pub which has the 'Cask Marque' (which I think most or all Spoons do) label MUST provide free samples for anyone who asks, that's one of the obligations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭anonanymore


    Ipso wrote: »
    They seem to do ok in the UK, most likely an Irish problem.

    Not a Northern Irish problem. Had lunch in The Linen Hall, Enniskillen. Pint of Doombar, hot food, great service, plates were cleared off table when finished.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    There was a fella in a manager's shirt with a southern accent working in the Derry spoons this weekend. I reckon he's either a new recruit for a new pub or they've decided to send current managers up north to get them better trained up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Chelon


    Lucena wrote: »
    Any pub which has the 'Cask Marque' (which I think most or all Spoons do) label MUST provide free samples for anyone who asks, that's one of the obligations.

    Didn't know that, great stuff. Was in the Porterhouse Central at the weekend. An eye watering €6 for their cask, and it was chilled to within an inch of its' life - a flavourless rip-off.

    Say what you like about JDW, but they generally have some available (I've been lucky here, but have been in dozens inc 3 Irish ones and never had a problem) and well kept and all at €2.50 a throw.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭symbolic


    Chelon wrote: »
    Didn't know that, great stuff. Was in the Porterhouse Central at the weekend. An eye watering €6 for their cask, a.

    What was it?


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