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Reseeding 2015

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    #152
    just do it
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    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Why the ph2ylosith gg.i priced and looked at it when doing my reseed 2 weeks ago and couldn't justify the price 245 a tonne.200 kg per acre at reseed and 100 kg every year then.put out 2 tonne ground lime at 23 euro an acre spread and I'll get 4/5 years before it'll need any again

    I thought the rule of thumb is 1t/yr?


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    #153
    Greengrass1
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    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Why the phylosith gg.i priced and looked at it when doing my reseed 2 weeks ago and couldn't justify the price 245 a tonne.200 kg per acre at reseed and 100 kg every year then.put out 2 tonne ground lime at 23 euro an acre spread and I'll get 4/5 years before it'll need any again

    Cause I have it in the yard lol.

    Ah no we like it here. Really did alot for the soil structure imo.
    Usually at reseeding we go with 100 kg and 50kg every jan then.
    Soil resting again this jan but 9h was still at 6.5 lwhen we tested 2 yrs ago

    We're getting it for 220/t


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    #154
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,099 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    just do it wrote: »
    I thought the rule of thumb is 1t/yr?

    1/2 to 3/4 tonne for grazing and one average cut silage per year is what I work off


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    #155
    RobinBanks
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    Does grass seed have a best before date? I got 10 acres worth of seed a couple of weeks ago but the land I reclaimed is still not dry enough to seed and it wont be for another couple of weeks. Bulldozer left if very raw.

    I am wondering how long would he seed keep? Say if things got really bad and I did not get it seeded until Sept / October would this seed be still ok to use?


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    #156
    frogloch
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    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Does grass seed have a best before date? I got 10 acres worth of seed a couple of weeks ago but the land I reclaimed is still not dry enough to seed and it wont be for another couple of weeks. Bulldozer left if very raw.

    I am wondering how long would he seed keep? Say if things got really bad and I did not get it seeded until Sept / October would this seed be still ok to use?

    Keep a year or a little over it as long as you keep it dry and stop moisture getting near it, otherwise will start to go mouldy.


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    #157
    djmc
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    Anyone know if it OK to power harrow or rotavate after spreading grass seed.
    A lot of grass and trash on ground that seed was spread on.


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    #158
    White Clover
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    djmc wrote: »
    Anyone know if it OK to power harrow or rotavate after spreading grass seed.
    A lot of grass and trash on ground that seed was spread on.

    No it would Bury seed too deep. Have u a chain Harrow ? This would gather the trash. Go over and back across the field and lift at the headlands you would have to gather from here or push up against ditch. Ideally should be done before seeding. Never had that problem but we sometimes use this method if a lot of stones on top of ground


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    #159
    djmc
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    Don't have chain harrow and would be worried it would remove the seed spread on grass and trash at this stage
    Also it wet heavy ground on hill so is not really able to travel with tractor at the moment.
    If it stays dry for another day or 2 might be able to roll or rotavate.
    It seems to have a lot more trash now after drying out a bit.


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    #160
    White Clover
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    djmc wrote: »
    Don't have chain harrow and would be worried it would remove the seed spread on grass and trash at this stage
    Also it wet heavy ground on hill so is not really able to travel with tractor at the moment.
    If it stays dry for another day or 2 might be able to roll or rotavate.
    It seems to have a lot more trash now after drying out a bit.

    shur the rotavator will put the seed down 6 inches. I'd let the trash there before going near it with that. If wet, the roller won't improve things either. Only leave tracks trying to drag it around


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    #161
    Markcheese
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    Roll - roll - roll - or rain rain rain -

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    #162
    djmc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    Thanks for the info might try to roll the dry parts and hopefully the rain will do the rest.
    Thought about buying or making a roller for the quad but don't think it would have any impact weight wise.


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    #163
    just do it
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    djmc wrote: »
    Anyone know if it OK to power harrow or rotavate after spreading grass seed.
    A lot of grass and trash on ground that seed was spread on.

    Leave it alone! It's wet ground so seed will take. I'd seed take on headlands of a freshly cut silage field which had no cultivation


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    #164
    yosemitesam1
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    djmc wrote: »
    Don't have chain harrow and would be worried it would remove the seed spread on grass and trash at this stage
    Also it wet heavy ground on hill so is not really able to travel with tractor at the moment.
    If it stays dry for another day or 2 might be able to roll or rotavate.
    It seems to have a lot more trash now after drying out a bit.
    Did you stick out any lime, decomposing trash will reduce germination if it stays wet


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    #165
    jfh
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    Out of interest, what's the going rate for spreading a ton of lime?
    Getting quoted €25


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    #166
    zetor 4911
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    Hi,
    Reseeded a field last week sprayed off about 6 weeks ago. Applied lime then power harrowed and put seed in. Spread fertiliser 2 days later and then rolled. Went to look at it this morning and grass starting to come up but the field it a mess as something has dug it up. As I did not plough there is a far bit of trash on surface and this trash was dug up. Would it be birds that is doing this? Anyone with any experience of this?


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    #167
    td5man
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    jfh wrote: »
    Out of interest, what's the going rate for spreading a ton of lime?
    Getting quoted €25

    Supplied and spread <€20 , neighbours wanted €24.


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    #168
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭jfh


    td5man wrote: »
    Supplied and spread <€20 , neighbours wanted €24.

    Where about is that?
    Good value. I'm getting quotes of mcgraths in clare


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    #169
    td5man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    jfh wrote: »
    Where about is that?
    Good value. I'm getting quotes of mcgraths in clare

    North East family rate.


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    #170
    just do it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    jfh wrote: »
    Where about is that?
    Good value. I'm getting quotes of mcgraths in clare

    Sounds about right. Was €20 before Whelans shut and when that happened it jumped to €22. Last year was €24.


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    #171
    just do it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    10 days
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    #172
    just do it
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    #173
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Lads,

    What fertiliser are ye putting down with the reseed? I'd usually go with 3 X 10.10.20 but as I'm index 1 for both P and K it think is might be

    1 X 0-16-0
    2 X 10.10.20

    Is there a danger lashing out P during the summer with cattle grazing in a few weeks, could too much be toxic?


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    #174
    White Clover
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    Count Mondego wrote: »
    Lads,

    What fertiliser are ye putting down with the reseed? I'd usually go with 3 X 10.10.20 but as I'm index 1 for both P and K it think is might be

    1 X 0-16-0
    2 X 10.10.20

    Is there a danger lashing out P during the summer with cattle grazing in a few weeks, could too much be toxic?

    I wouldn't think so count. I'd even go heavier than what you're thinking


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    #175
    Username John
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    Count Mondego wrote: »
    Lads,

    What fertiliser are ye putting down with the reseed? I'd usually go with 3 X 10.10.20 but as I'm index 1 for both P and K it think is might be

    1 X 0-16-0
    2 X 10.10.20

    Is there a danger lashing out P during the summer with cattle grazing in a few weeks, could too much be toxic?

    If you are index 1 in both P and K - why go with 0-16-0?

    Would you not be better off going with 10-10-20 - as you have both P & K, for almost the same price? (given you need both?)


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    #176
    Greengrass1
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    Count Mondego wrote: »
    Lads,

    What fertiliser are ye putting down with the reseed? I'd usually go with 3 X 10.10.20 but as I'm index 1 for both P and K it think is might be

    1 X 0-16-0
    2 X 10.10.20

    Is there a danger lashing out P during the summer with cattle grazing in a few weeks, could too much be toxic?
    Go with 4 bags of 0 10 20.
    That's what we do here. Easy way of building indexs


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    #177
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,099 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Reseeded 8 acres 3 weeks ago .4*10 10 20 and 2 tonne lime per acre .spread 30 units urea on it this am.flying out of the ground


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    #178
    degetme
    Registered Users Posts: 767 ✭✭✭degetme


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Reseeded 8 acres 3 weeks ago .4*10 10 20 and 2 tonne lime per acre .spread 30 units urea on it this am.flying out of the ground

    I taught you weren't to spread urea so soon after ground lime


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    #179
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,099 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Fook ur correct didn't even think of it,aghh bol1x .sure it's out now nothing can be done .


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    #180
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Username John wrote: »
    If you are index 1 in both P and K - why go with 0-16-0?

    Would you not be better off going with 10-10-20 - as you have both P & K, for almost the same price? (given you need both?)

    Thanks John. P is more important for root growth in the first year. It would be getting plenty K next spring as they're both silage fields.


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    #181
    Username John
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    Count Mondego wrote: »
    Thanks John. P is more important for root growth in the first year. It would be getting plenty K next spring as they're both silage fields.

    I know and I bought 0-16-0 as I was index 1 for P as well (although index 4 for K strangely)

    But was sorry I didn't just get more 10-10-20 in the end, it seemed more cost effective, as the bit of N would have been good too.

    After going with the 0-16-0 in some fields, the difference in the first spring grass was unreal...


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