Reseeding 2015

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Haven't spotted a thread like this this year so here goes.

2 self made mixes for grazing land: a good land mix and a heavy land mix.

welton john

Got a similar heavy ground mix last year. Really persistent grass and hard to break the skin after it. How much acre that mix ?

Greengrass1

Abergain monoculture. Sprayed for weeds on monday. Will be grazed in next few days

browned

just do it wrote: »

Haven't spotted a thread like this this year so here goes.

2 self made mixes for grazing land: a good land mix and a heavy land mix.

Have 4 of those seeds in monocoltures. Not a massive fan of glenveagh so far, cows haven't taken fully to it yet.

Drumbo is a very good grass seed, good digestibility for a diploid and cows seem to like it.

Aberchoice is slow germinating but very good summer growth

Abergain is a super grass. Bit open and I'd question its longevity but cows absolutely love it and it grows some tonnage.

How they preform as a mix i have no idea. Too many variables

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welton john wrote: »

Got a similar heavy ground mix last year. Really persistent grass and hard to break the skin after it. How much acre that mix ?

Probably work out at about 13.2kg/ac. The 2 reseeds I've done so far have shown the importance of post reseed management. Drove one on and it's flying. First one didn't get grazed frequently enough and hasn't performed as well.

Robson99

just do it wrote: »

Probably work out at about 13.2kg/ac. The 2 reseeds I've done so far have shown the importance of post reseed management. Drove one on and it's flying. First one didn't get grazed frequently enough and hasn't performed as well.

Who did the mix for you JDI ?

jfh

Anyone get the seeds of farm direct.
Saw them at the sheep expo yesterday & looked decant, don't have the mixes to hand now

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Robson99 wrote: »

Who did the mix for you JDI ?

Seeddirect.ie

gazahayes

Is it gone too late to spray off for a reseed or should I wait till September time? Field is full of thistles and old grasses topped it the other day.

Robson99

gazahayes wrote: »

Is it gone too late to spray off for a reseed or should I wait till September time? Field is full of thistles and old grasses topped it the other day.

Fire ahead unless are in the southeast of the country which may get little rain. Have 10 acres to do in the next fortnight here

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I'm reseeding now to allow a few grazings before winter. Reseeded 2 years ago in September and didn't get parts of it grazed till late the following spring. It is no where near as good quality as the reseed I did last June.

Greengrass1

gazahayes wrote: »

Is it gone too late to spray off for a reseed or should I wait till September time? Field is full of thistles and old grasses topped it the other day.

Hope to spray off 2 fields next month depending on weather at time if course

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Greengrass1 wrote: »

Hope to spray off 2 fields next month depending on weather at time if course

You'd a slow reseed to take I'd I remember rightly? How's it now?

mahoney_j

9 acres to do here,it's a plot I have on year to year lease but has rag worth ,and thistles scattered through it .sprayed it with d50 after last grazing to knock rag worth mainly ,got a good kill on thistles also..graze again end of week then leave for a few days and in with roundup .14 kg per acre then of Tyrella ,abbergain and Aston energy mix

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

You'd a slow reseed to take I'd I remember rightly? How's it now?

It's better than what was in it ill put it that way.
ah its okay. Has grown 7t already but alot of meadow grass is in the base due it not getting going quick enough and smothering it. It won't last 10 yrs I'd say any way

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

9 acres to do here,it's a plot I have on year to year lease but has rag worth ,and thistles scattered through it .sprayed it with d50 after last grazing to knock rag worth mainly ,got a good kill on thistles also..graze again end of week then leave for a few days and in with roundup .14 kg per acre then of Tyrella ,abbergain and Aston energy mix

Will you try direct drill?
Very happy with mine really cone on in last 10 days. Will use it in next 2 fields. Good level fields

Robson99

Was thinking of going with the following for a grazing mix

Abergain. 4kg
Aston energy 3kg
Aberchoice 4kg
Drumbo. 3kg

14kg per acre. Thoughts on the above mix would be appreciated as I usually go with a pre mix when reseeding. Beef system

Greengrass1

just do it wrote: »

You'd a slow reseed to take I'd I remember rightly? How's it now?

That's thus yrs heifers grazing top half if it.
Was bales taken off it 3 wks ago. Cover of 900 on it now

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Greengrass1 wrote: »

That's thus yrs heifers grazing top half if it.
Was bales taken off it 3 wks ago. Cover of 900 on it now

You're only teasing us now telling us its not great .

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Will you try direct drill?
Very happy with mine really cone on in last 10 days. Will use it in next 2 fields. Good level fields

Yep 2 runs of ripper then in with one pass and roll.

Dunedin

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep 2 runs of ripper then in with one pass and roll.

How much per acre does it work out at, all in.

Deepsouthwest

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep 2 runs of ripper then in with one pass and roll.

When u say ripper, do u mean some type sub soiler/mole plough?

Deepsouthwest

gazahayes wrote: »

Is it gone too late to spray off for a reseed or should I wait till September time? Field is full of thistles and old grasses topped it the other day.

Not much point in spraying if ur just after topping it, u need a bit of leaf to take in the round-up. Remember it's the last grass that comes up is the one u want to kill the most

Robson99

Robson99 wrote: »

Was thinking of going with the following for a grazing mix

Abergain. 4kg
Aston energy 3kg
Aberchoice 4kg
Drumbo. 3kg

14kg per acre. Thoughts on the above mix would be appreciated as I usually go with a pre mix when reseeding. Beef system

Anyone????

Greengrass1

Robson99 wrote: »

Anyone????

Yep good mix. Cows love Aston energy

frazzledhome

Robson99 wrote: »

Was thinking of going with the following for a grazing mix

Abergain. 4kg
Aston energy 3kg
Aberchoice 4kg
Drumbo. 3kg

14kg per acre. Thoughts on the above mix would be appreciated as I usually go with a pre mix when reseeding. Beef system

Great mix will take some grazing and would love loads of N.

I'm wondering about the persistence of all these new seeds.

The old boys Cancan and Navan will be hard beaten

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Robson99 wrote: »

Anyone????

All 4 are ones I'd earmarked as being good. All late and within 5-7 days of each other? 30% tetraploid? Looks like a mix for good land.

mahoney_j

Dunedin wrote: »

How much per acre does it work out at, all in.

2 runs of ripper and one pass 70 euro/acre

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

Great mix will take some grazing and would love loads of N.

I'm wondering about the persistence of all these new seeds.

The old boys Cancan and Navan will be hard beaten

I was just saying the same thing to dad last week. Field that was swt aside and sown 10 yr ago here growing as much so far as recent reseeds.
Think dad said it was 2 varietys in it.
One was Portstewart but he can't remember what the other one was

Robson99

just do it wrote: »

All 4 are ones I'd earmarked as being good. All late and within 5-7 days of each other? 30% tetraploid? Looks like a mix for good land.

Think its 50%tet 50%dip. Will be used for fattening cattle. Not going to bother with clover as I don't think its worth the hassle. Not sure whether to use kintyre or Aston energy. Hope the sward wont be too open.

Thanks for the replies lads

Greengrass1

Robson99 wrote: »

Think its 50%tet 50%dip. Will be used for fattening cattle. Not going to bother with clover as I don't think its worth the hassle. Not sure whether to use kintyre or Aston energy. Hope the sward wont be too open.

Thanks for the replies lads

Seen a monoculture if Kintyre in early Feb. Was closed up at 800 opened at 2000.
Lovely grass with a nice wide leaf. Grew 20t for that man the previous yr.