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  • #5222
    somesoldiers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    It all goes back to 1 or 2 mega crashes that killed people with dodgy workmanship that punishes them all.


    yeah there was that terrible one in Navan 2005 where 5 kids died


  • #5223
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Could there be similar goings on to the medical supplies stuff uncovered last week by RTÉ?
    According to reports, one whistleblower said he had to pay for a senior Bus Eireann employee's return flights to Alicante in Spain.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bus-eireann-hits-back-over-claims-of-bribery-30203189.html


  • #5224
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    It's a disgrace Philip. I was banking on having this meaty contract handed to me for no logical reason other than me mudder had it before me.


  • #5225
    2smiggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,496 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Sur this wan is talking out her backside. She is trying to put the point the across about they have the knowledge, where as bus eireann have said it comes down to price !!

    next time put in a cheaper price !!


  • #5226
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Ger off de line, caller!


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  • #5227
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    have we discussed the 80k for the new carpet for the mansion house and the 5k "consultancy fee" on how to fit it?

    Joe loves the Mansion House, that story would be swept under the carpet so to speak :D


  • #5228
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    have we discussed the 80k for the new carpet for the mansion house and the 5k "consultancy fee" on how to fit it?

    Link please?


  • #5229
    Dan Jaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,829 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    somesoldiers wrote: »
    yeah there was that terrible one in Navan 2005 where 5 kids died

    I remember the freshly-laid tarmac surface never got a mention.


  • #5230
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Link please?

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/council-splashes-85k-on-two-carpets-for-the-mansion-house-31389207.html


  • #5231
    2smiggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,496 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    not undercutting , just a cheaper price FFS


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  • #5232
    dvcireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,991 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    Did Otto from the Simpsons get the gig?


  • #5233
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    somesoldiers wrote: »
    yeah there was that terrible one in Navan 2005 where 5 kids died

    €2.2 million in fines...

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0606/104235-navan/


  • #5234
    Fujitsu10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Fujitsu10


    2smiggy wrote: »
    transparent ? if they reveal the price each time it would turn into a race to the bottom for each company tendering. they have to keep prices submitted someway hidden for fairness of the companies involved in the tendering process

    If the company that won the tenders price was published then it would be obvious if the job could be done for that price. That would be a great start.

    Also there is a hell of a lot of work involved in submitting a tender. If the Gubbermint had to pay for tenders maybe they would appreciate the effort thats required. By all means have a pre-qualification process to allow you to tender.


  • #5235
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Just tuned in here. Is this just sour grapes or has she any case at all?


  • #5236
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Just tuned in here. Is this just sour grapes or has she any case at all?
    She just wants to talk.


  • #5237
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    snubbleste wrote: »
    She just wants to talk.

    It's good to talk!


  • #5238
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Just tuned in here. Is this just sour grapes or has she any case at all?

    And wat colour are de grapes, so to speak?


  • #5239
    Flukey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    If she gets onto Ivan Calorie, he might be able to use some of his new contacts so that she can bring day release prisoners out on trips. She could team up with Somesoldiers' uncle and do a pub crawl with them.


  • #5240
    BarryD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭BarryD


    2smiggy wrote: »
    Sur this wan is talking out her backside. She is trying to put the point the across about they have the knowledge, where as bus eireann have said it comes down to price !!

    next time put in a cheaper price !!

    No, I'd sympathise with her - they've been doing the job for many years and presumably doing it well.

    It is galling to have that sort of service thrown back in your face.

    And by people who would run to their unions if they were treated that way.

    That's the lot of the self employed, though.


  • #5241
    Rock Lesnar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,886 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    I dont want to go down that route, BUT


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  • #5242
    Dan Jaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,829 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    Flukey wrote: »
    If she gets onto Ivan Calorie, he might be able to use some of his new contacts so that she can bring day release prisoners out on trips. She could team up with Somesoldiers' uncle and do a pub crawl with them.

    With naked dancing donkeys, trained by Snubs, at every rest stop.


  • #5243
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Dublin City Council has splurged nearly €90,000 on new carpets for just two rooms at the Mansion House this year, in a move that has sparked controversy.






    The carpets were fitted at a cost of €85,139.

    Another €3,690 was paid on "consultancy" in relation to them, according to figures supplied to the Herald under the Freedom of Information Act.



    The city council has said that there are a high number of visitors to the Mansion House and that the two rooms involved are used on a regular basis.

    However, Independent TD Finian McGrath said that it was a question of

    priorities in relation to spending.

    "€90,000 would go a long way to funding a shelter or a house or two for people who are homeless," he said.

    "That money could be used to refurbish senior citizen complexes throughout the city."



    The two rooms were fitted out with the new bespoke carpets in April.

    A spokesperson for the council said the Mansion House receives many visitors every year.



    "Both the drawing room and the dining room (inset) are used on a regular basis and are not 'museum' rooms," the spokesperson said.

    "When new rugs/carpets were needed for these rooms, a contract was issued for provision of expert advice by one of Ireland's leading experts in historical carpets, with 40 years' experience. His advice was crucial in ensuring that the carpets chosen for the Mansion House were suitable in terms of quality and longevity, as well as ensuring that the design was appropriate to a historic house."



    Former Lord Mayor Christy Burke told the Herald that up to 200 people a day visit the Mansion House, including local groups from all over the city.

    "It is the most historic house in Dublin - it's a house for the people," he said.

    The figures show the largest outlay in relation to the Mansion House was €95,373 on "works to carry out drainage, service ramp and fire escape upgrade", with €13,007 paid on consultancy.



    Meanwhile, the repair and painting of the iron portico at the Mansion House entrance came to €20,046.



    Separately, spending earmarked for City Hall includes the restoration of three canvas portraits at a cost of some €10,498, which will be carried out over a two-year period.




    ONLY IN IRELAND.


  • #5244
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste




  • #5245
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    BarryD wrote: »
    No, I'd sympathise with her - they've been doing the job for many years and presumably doing it well.

    It is galling to have that sort of service thrown back in your face.

    And by people who would run to their unions if they were treated that way.

    That's the lot of the self employed, though.

    And if she kept getting the contract year in year out, someone else would be complaining about cronyism!


  • #5246
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    BarryD wrote: »
    No, I'd sympathise with her - they've been doing the job for many years and presumably doing it well.

    It is galling to have that sort of service thrown back in your face.

    And by people who would run to their unions if they were treated that way.

    That's the lot of the self employed, though.

    It matters not a jot, be it in the private or public service. Sentiment does not, nor should it, come into anything when renewing contracts. You're on the verge of advocating cronyism.

    And it's not restricted to the self employed. If any private company loses contracts employees working on that contract are at risk of redundancy unless the company gets a new contract to replace it.


  • #5247
    Flukey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    2smiggy wrote: »
    Sur this wan is talking out her backside. She is trying to put the point the across about they have the knowledge, where as bus eireann have said it comes down to price !!

    next time put in a cheaper price !!

    If she's talking through her backside and sitting on it all through work, it might be a bit tender.


  • #5248
    Call me Al
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    She thinks that because her family business always had the route they should automatically get to keep it, despite not tendering as competitively as another company.

    Her business only has this route. How is that a proper business, and not the equivalent of a little part-time pastime that payss few bob to her.


  • #5249
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Could he not throw the couple of extra seats out?


  • #5250
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Oneupbusmanship from now until 3.


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  • #5251
    moonshadow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭moonshadow


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Could he not throw the couple of extra seats out?

    Yep he could


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