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Greengrass1 · 18-07-2015 07:54PM

alps wrote: »

Low grass DM%....will start pulling at anything stemy. .

Hmmm maybe the grass there on atm is gone bit strong can't be mowed due to rocks sticking out of the ground

alps · 18-07-2015 07:56PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Hmmm maybe the grass there on atm is gone bit strong can't be mowed due to rocks sticking out of the ground

Bang goes that theory..

kevthegaff · 18-07-2015 10:25PM

Maybe theyre barking mad!

howdee · 18-07-2015 11:09PM

Anyone scan anything yet, I scanned my heifers on Thursday, 23 in total with one not in calf but she repeated and was bulled a forthnight or so ago by stock bill but it didn't show on the scanner.
90% calving in 6 weeks next Spring.

visatorro · 18-07-2015 11:21PM

scanned thru milk recording. 8% empty. bulls still with them so this should improve. didn't do heifers yet

whelan2 · 19-07-2015 05:58AM

howdee wrote: »

Anyone scan anything yet, I scanned my heifers on Thursday, 23 in total with one not in calf but she repeated and was bulled a forthnight or so ago by stock bill but it didn't show on the scanner.
90% calving in 6 weeks next Spring.

Scanned most of heifers last week, 1 not in calf

kevthegaff · 19-07-2015 09:51AM

visatorro wrote: »

scanned thru milk recording. 8% empty. bulls still with them so this should improve. didn't do heifers yet

Is it accurate? How much?

Greengrass1 · 19-07-2015 10:08AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Is it accurate? How much?

3.50 / cow
we only did suspect cows last yr and found it very accurate

keep going · 19-07-2015 10:20AM

Does running a higher stocking rate (over 3per hectare)lower the workload instead of increasing it

mahoney_j · 19-07-2015 10:38AM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Is it accurate? How much?

3.50 per cow.accurate from 30 days in calf I think.unless u only want to be sure if a cow is in calf would I do it as it won't tell u how long an animal is in calf or if she has cysts etc

whelan2 · 19-07-2015 10:52AM

does the recorder just take the sample or do you send in sample, took 10 days to get last recording results here, scanning is cheaper and they will tell you if theres any problems etc

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-07-2015 10:54AM

whelan2 wrote: »

does the recorder just take the sample or do you send in sample, took 10 days to get last recording results here, scanning is cheaper and they will tell you if theres any problems etc

It's the sample from the recording for fat/protein that's used.

Brown Podzol · 19-07-2015 11:05AM

keep going wrote: »

Does running a higher stocking rate (over 3per hectare)lower the workload instead of increasing it

Increase on the shoulders, buffer feeding, but decrease during the main growing season, less bales.

visatorro · 19-07-2015 05:23PM

I find scanning to be total guess work over 100 days. three months or seven months are the same. have tried four different scanner's and they were all the same. doing through the records definitely less stressful on man and beast. also I'm tight for time this weather so just suited this year. two of the cows not incalf have been round since. will handle any suspect cows later on. if there not incalf there gone. no time for treating cows and keeping weak links around any more. too highly stocked and extra milk isn't more money this year anyway

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-07-2015 05:33PM

visatorro wrote: »

I find scanning to be total guess work over 100 days. three months or seven months are the same. have tried four different scanner's and they were all the same. doing through the records definitely less stressful on man and beast. also I'm tight for time this weather so just suited this year. two of the cows not incalf have been round since. will handle any suspect cows later on. if there not incalf there gone. no time for treating cows and keeping weak links around any more. too highly stocked and extra milk isn't more money this year anyway

I find the Frs scanner down here excellent for giving weeks in calf for friesians though I have to add 2 weeks for jerseys. Handy also for showing twins and empty cows for culling.

Timmaay · 20-07-2015 12:15PM

Someone worked out last year with the price of beef on the floor, the income from suckling was the equivalent of getting 23cent/l of milk. Anyone hazard a guess how that has changed now ha, will it cross over with the way the current milk price is heading ha??

Greengrass1 · 20-07-2015 12:29PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Someone worked out last year with the price of beef on the floor, the income from suckling was the equivalent of getting 23cent/l of milk. Anyone hazard a guess how that has changed now ha, will it cross over with the way the current milk price is heading ha??

Your mistaken. Best beef price was equal to 23c/l

mahoney_j · 20-07-2015 12:48PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Your mistaken. Best beef price was equal to 23c/l

Beef at 5 euro kg equivelant to milk at 23 cent

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-07-2015 01:01PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Someone worked out last year with the price of beef on the floor, the income from suckling was the equivalent of getting 23cent/l of milk. Anyone hazard a guess how that has changed now ha, will it cross over with the way the current milk price is heading ha??

I remember that in the Journal.

He was after converting to dairy and said once the price of milk stays above 23c, he would be better off in dairying.

whelan2 · 20-07-2015 01:02PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I remember that in the Journal.

He was after converting to dairy and said once the price of milk stays above 23c, he would be better off in dairying.

hopefully it does

leg wax · 20-07-2015 01:55PM

i can tell you its great to be back at it .

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-07-2015 02:06PM

leg wax wrote: »

i can tell you its great to be back at it .

Good to hear:)

freedominacup · 20-07-2015 02:21PM

leg wax wrote: »

i can tell you its great to be back at it .

Amen to that.

Sacrolyte · 20-07-2015 02:42PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I find the Frs scanner down here excellent for giving weeks in calf for friesians though I have to add 2 weeks for jerseys. Handy also for showing twins and empty cows for culling.

Big +1 on that. Serious operator. Wouldn't leave any one else at em. And a gentleman.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-07-2015 02:56PM

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Big +1 on that. Serious operator. Wouldn't leave any one else at em. And a gentleman.

Milks some serious cows as well.

Sacrolyte · 20-07-2015 03:02PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Milks some serious cows as well.

Smashers

Greengrass1 · 21-07-2015 07:15PM

Going to add up the cows in the morning during milking if cows I'd get rid off if we had optimum cow numbers.
Be they 3 teaters, slow cows, cows with odd bags after a mastitis infection,old cows and kickers.
See how many there are and maybe we might no bull these in next yr and have nicer herd.

Might not be many 10 I reckon

Deepsouthwest · 21-07-2015 07:48PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Going to add up the cows in the morning during milking if cows I'd get rid off if we had optimum cow numbers.
Be they 3 teaters, slow cows, cows with odd bags after a mastitis infection,old cows and kickers.
See how many there are and maybe we might no bull these in next yr and have nicer herd.

If ever there was a yr to do it then this is it, poor milk price and super dry cow price. I'd probably wait til after scanning to make any final decisions though, scanning always throws up a few surprises.

Greengrass1 · 21-07-2015 08:17PM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

If ever there was a yr to do it then this is it, poor milk price and super dry cow price. I'd probably wait til after scanning to make any final decisions though, scanning always throws up a few surprises.

Ah want to push on more next yr.
If we were a yr further ahead no problem doing it.
more than likely incalf too I bet

Pacoa · 21-07-2015 08:23PM

Anyone thinking of selling up for twelve months and then getting back in again?

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