Would you date a smoker?

Mister Vain · 18-07-2015 01:44PM

Kevin Calm Sternum wrote: »

If you think cigarette smoke is the worst smell imaginable then you really need to get out more. Yes, it's not pleasant to a non smoker but it is far from the most vile smell out there. This type of exaggeration destroys any credibility in a debate,

Maybe not to you, but for me its definitely one of the worst, and I know some others feel the same. For some people its just mildly unpleasant, but for others its absolutely vile.

lanos wrote: »

I think some of the responses here say more about the persons indifference to sex than their aversion to smokers.
they should get more iron in their diet cos red-blooded they are NOT

Sex has nothing to do with it. I had a ONS with a smoker and it was fine, but I just couldn't be in a relationship with one.

Sam Kade · 18-07-2015 02:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think my favourite was the "are you for real" about Cheryl Cole, as if he was shocked that anyone might find her remotely pretty. I think it was a tad overstated!

You are not looking beyond all the air brushing and make up and if a woman with a bony arse is your taste you are welcome to her

MadYaker · 18-07-2015 02:21PM

I always said I never would until I met her.... She has since quit though.

lanos · 18-07-2015 02:41PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

Maybe not to you, but for me its definitely one of the worst, and I know some others feel the same. For some people its just mildly unpleasant, but for others its absolutely vile.

Sex has nothing to do with it. I had a ONS with a smoker and it was fine, but I just couldn't be in a relationship with one.

so you have been with a smoker and it was fine.

so not that vile really

i suggest you were intoxicated also since it was a one-night-stand.

so how about you were intoxicated by love.
then the smoking could be overlooked

and as they say:
love conquers all

Mister Vain · 18-07-2015 02:54PM

lanos wrote: »

so you have been with a smoker and it was fine.

so not that vile really

i suggest you were intoxicated also since it was a one-night-stand.

so how about you were intoxicated by love.
then the smoking could be overlooked

and as they say:
love conquers all

The one night stand was exactly that, one night, so it wasn't that big of a deal. Plus I didn't know she was a smoker before hand. She only lit up after the shag so I then went on my way. Dating someone or starting a relationship is a different matter entirely. And no I wasn't intoxicated.

18-07-2015 03:20PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

The one night stand was exactly that, one night, so it wasn't that big of a deal. Plus I didn't know she was a smoker before hand.

So she was a smoker, but you couldn't smell or detect it until you saw her smoking?

steddyeddy · 18-07-2015 03:33PM

Huge turn off.

Mister Vain · 18-07-2015 04:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So she was a smoker, but you couldn't smell or detect it until you saw her smoking?

Maybe she was just an occasional smoker, I don't know. There's a big difference between kissing someone who was smoking five minutes ago and someone who had a cigarette earlier in the day. Anyway the point I was making is that it would be much more of an issue if I was dating someone or starting a relationship as opposed to just getting a quick shag, which is why I asked about the celebrities earlier. There are plenty of celebrities I would gladly shag but I wouldn't like one as a girlfriend if she was a smoker.

18-07-2015 04:50PM

I occasionally like a smoke myself so dating an occasional or social smoker wouldn't be a problem.

Dating a 20-a-day smoker would be bother me a bit, though more so because I'd be worried about their health than the "eww" factor. I wouldn't necessarily refuse to date them but would definitely try and get them to cut back a lot if things got serious between us.

Mint Aero · 18-07-2015 04:58PM

Nope, it's a filthy habit.

lanos · 18-07-2015 07:38PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

The one night stand was exactly that, one night, so it wasn't that big of a deal. Plus I didn't know she was a smoker before hand. She only lit up after the shag so I then went on my way.

Your story does not add up.
The length of time from when you met her to the time you did the biz was so short
that she only needed a fag after the shag.
Let me guess, you picked up a girl and she was so attracted to you that you rushed
back to her place and shagged her brains out then she reveals the truth. SHE SMOKES.
so you get up and leave. I CALL BULLSH1T

lanos · 18-07-2015 07:58PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

Maybe she was just an occasional smoker, I don't know.

occasional smokers don't light up immediately after a shag with a new lover
committed smokers do.
also, where did this ONS occur
was it from a chance meeting on the supermarket aisles.
was it from a speed-date evening
or much more likely in a pub or night-club (although you claimed not to be intoxicated)

if it was a pub/night-club meeting, your occasional smoker would have smoked at least 5 fags from 9PM onwards.
And you didn't detect it.

come clean and admit its all crap

beks101 · 18-07-2015 08:03PM

Yeah but not voluntarily. As in, it would turn me off if I just met a fella on a night out etc and he was a chain smoker. Would probably turn me off straight away.

But if I knew him for a while and then found out he was a smoker...I'd probably still fancy him but think "ah, shame."

My OH is a social smoker. He trains a lot so doesn't chain smoke or anything, three or four on a night out and he knows I'm not going to be kissing him if he's been on the fags. It's like kissing an ashtray.

PLL · 18-07-2015 08:03PM

I've never smoked in my life, and I've never taken drugs either. Don't like either. Yet I've been with someone 5 years who smokes cigarettes and the odd joint (neither are smoked in the house though). Why? You can't help who you fall in love with.

Shanotheslayer · 18-07-2015 08:05PM

Ianos should be a private detective.

Mister Vain · 18-07-2015 11:27PM

lanos wrote: »

Your story does not add up.
The length of time from when you met her to the time you did the biz was so short
that she only needed a fag after the shag.
Let me guess, you picked up a girl and she was so attracted to you that you rushed
back to her place and shagged her brains out then she reveals the truth. SHE SMOKES.
so you get up and leave. I CALL BULLSH1T

Jesus talk about going off on a tangent. What does it matter how it went down? My point is still valid.

lanos wrote: »

occasional smokers don't light up immediately after a shag with a new lover
committed smokers do.

if it was a pub/night-club meeting, your occasional smoker would have smoked at least 5 fags from 9PM onwards.
And you didn't detect it.

Ohh so you can speak for all smokers now can you? For the record, we didn't meet in a bar or club and it wasn't after 9pm so your point is completely irrelevant, as is the rest of your post.

Cold War Kid · 18-07-2015 11:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I occasionally like a smoke myself so dating an occasional or social smoker wouldn't be a problem.

Dating a 20-a-day smoker would be bother me a bit, though more so because I'd be worried about their health than the "eww" factor. I wouldn't necessarily refuse to date them but would definitely try and get them to cut back a lot if things got serious between us.

Very same here.

Greentopia · 19-07-2015 12:17AM

If he smoked the odd rollie socially maybe, if he was otherwise a great guy. They don't smell too bad IMO.

I hate the smell of filtered cigarettes though and find it a turn off-that smell on a smoker's breath when they come close is revolting, so I definitely wouldn't want to kiss them!

lanos · 19-07-2015 03:37AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

Jesus talk about going off on a tangent. What does it matter how it went down? My point is still valid.

Ohh so you can speak for all smokers now can you? For the record, we didn't meet in a bar or club and it wasn't after 9pm so your point is completely irrelevant, as is the rest of your post.

you're caught by the balls and have taken the title as After Hours biggest bullsh1tter.
I'm guessing the closest you have ever come to a one night stand was with pam and
her 5 sisters except you are probably acquainted with her multiple times, round the clock continuously since you turned 13.

next time you indulge in wishful thinking, make it some way plausible and don't mix your agendas.
Agenda 1: smoker bashing
Agenda 2: pretending you're sexually experienced.

cos those of us that have had quite a lot of ass can see right through you.

I'm expecting to be banned now, but that's ok cos I have a heavy workload coming up.

eternal · 19-07-2015 03:51AM

Humour interlude.

Mister Vain · 19-07-2015 08:17AM

lanos wrote: »

you're caught by the balls and have taken the title as After Hours biggest bullsh1tter.
I'm guessing the closest you have ever come to a one night stand was with pam and
her 5 sisters except you are probably acquainted with her multiple times, round the clock continuously since you turned 13.

next time you indulge in wishful thinking, make it some way plausible and don't mix your agendas.
Agenda 1: smoker bashing
Agenda 2: pretending you're sexually experienced.

cos those of us that have had quite a lot of ass can see right through you.

I'm expecting to be banned now, but that's ok cos I have a heavy workload coming up.

Ohh no you didn't. :pac: You always know a poster can't have an intelligent discussion when they have to resort to this sort of childish nonsense and snide remarks. There's only one bullsh1tter here and that's you mate. You've nothing to support your claims except for a set of bulls1t scenarios about one night stands and peoples smoking habits. You can't speak for all smokers.

I don't have an agenda, I just wouldn't date a smoker. You refuse to believe that a man could turn down a smoker just because she is attractive. This is what you said earlier -

I think some of the responses here say more about the persons indifference to sex than their aversion to smokers.
they should get more iron in their diet cos red-blooded they are NOT

That's just a bunch of crap, and again you've nothing to back it up. We all have deal breakers, and for some, smoking is one of them.

19-07-2015 08:27AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

I don't have an agenda, I just wouldn't date a smoker.

As a matter of interest, why not?

For others here it seems to be the smell, but you said you were with a smoker and you didn't even notice anything until they lit up afterwards. Which I completely accept - I think the smell thing all a bit exaggerrated to be honest, people overstating the smell as being the worst thing ever. People down through the decades seem to have overcome their outrage and disgust and managed to go (in much greater numbers) to pubs and clubs and cinemas and other areas where the smell of smoke was pervasive

So if you can't detect it by smell, ruling out the common objection, what is it? The concern that they are weak, that they'll die young?

Mister Vain · 19-07-2015 09:25AM

Deleted User wrote: »

As a matter of interest, why not?

For others here it seems to be the smell, but you said you were with a smoker and you didn't even notice anything until they lit up afterwards. Which I completely accept - I think the smell thing all a bit exaggerrated to be honest, people overstating the smell as being the worst thing ever. People down through the decades seem to have overcome their outrage and disgust and managed to go (in much greater numbers) to pubs and clubs and cinemas and other areas where the smell of smoke was pervasive

So if you can't detect it by smell, ruling out the common objection, what is it? The concern that they are weak, that they'll die young?

No it is just the smell and nothing else. Obviously if someone hasn't smoked in a while its not going to be as noticeable, and some people cover it up better than others with chewing gum etc. Now in saying that, some cigarettes are not as bad as others. Someone else said that the rollies are not as bad and I'd agree. For the most part though its just a horrible smell that I could never get used to. I've always hated it.

darkdubh · 19-07-2015 09:27AM

We don't date in this country,we shift.

19-07-2015 09:48AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

No it is just the smell and nothing else.

But you are saying you were so intimate with a woman as to have sex with her and had no idea she smoked until you saw it?

So clearly while the smell might be bad once detected and you hate it, you can say from your own experience that in reality - for all the exaggeration here - it can be undetectable.

I think the "it's vile, you can smell it a mile off, the worst thing ever" stuff is vastly overstated. No one is really referring to dating someone chain smoking woodbine, which even casual smokers might find too much. And your experience is a perfect demonstration of the nonsense, you didn't even realise it.

DivingDuck · 19-07-2015 10:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So if you can't detect it by smell, ruling out the common objection, what is it? The concern that they are weak, that they'll die young?

I wouldn't date a smoker. Partially because of the smell/taste issues mentioned previously, but there are other issues, also.

Smokers are less likely to be fit, which seems to be important to a lot of people on the dating scene.

Smoking increases your risk of many diseases and illnesses. I personally do not engage in high-risk behaviours, and I wouldn't want a life partner who did.

Also, if I were dating someone, it's likely they'd be in my house for prolonged periods. I wouldn't allow someone to smoke in my home, and I'd find it irritating if a partner had to keep popping outside every hour or two for a cigarette.

Everyone must have the right to make his or her own choice when it comes to smoking, but equally everyone must have the right to make their own choice about which actions and behaviours they find unacceptable in a partner.

padd b1975 · 19-07-2015 10:02AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Suuuuure, all the fellows who'd turn down Cheryl Cole, Jessica Alba, Miley Cyrus, Keira Knightley, Gwyneth Paltrow etc. etc.

That's a fine gang of headwreckers you've assembled there.

The fact that they're smokers would be well down most people's* list of turn offs.

*Does not include hormonal teenage boys.

19-07-2015 10:10AM

DivingDuck wrote: »

I wouldn't date a smoker. Partially because of the smell/taste issues mentioned previously, but there are other issues, also.

Smokers are less likely to be fit, which seems to be important to a lot of people on the dating scene.

Smoking increases your risk of many diseases and illnesses. I personally do not engage in high-risk behaviours, and I wouldn't want a life partner who did.

Also, if I were dating someone, it's likely they'd be in my house for prolonged periods. I wouldn't allow someone to smoke in my home, and I'd find it irritating if a partner had to keep popping outside every hour or two for a cigarette.

Everyone must have the right to make his or her own choice when it comes to smoking, but equally everyone must have the right to make their own choice about which actions and behaviours they find unacceptable in a partner.

I smoke the occasional ciggie. I have run marathons and ultramarathons. My fitness is pretty outstanding. I also drink beer and eat chips by the way.

Do people really expect an idea of life expectancy when considering dates? That sounds...hilarious. Do they take family medical history, job, diet and all those other crucial matters into account?

As for prolonged periods, I step out of the house for about 10 minutes a day. My wife somehow manages to get through that time alone.

Mister Vain · 19-07-2015 10:21AM

Deleted User wrote: »

But you are saying you were so intimate with a woman as to have sex with her and had no idea she smoked until you saw it?

So clearly while the smell might be bad once detected and you hate it, you can say from your own experience that in reality - for all the exaggeration here - it can be undetectable.

I think the "it's vile, you can smell it a mile off, the worst thing ever" stuff is vastly overstated. No one is really referring to dating someone chain smoking woodbine, which even casual smokers might find too much. And your experience is a perfect demonstration of the nonsense, you didn't even realise it.

I've already explained this several times. There's a difference between having a one night stand with a smoker and being in a relationship with a smoker. In a relationship you have to put up with it constantly. As I said earlier, there are plenty of celebrities I'd gladly shag if I had the chance. If Cheryl Cole wanted to shag me, I could tolerate the tobacco stench for 20 minutes for the sake of the ride. But this thread is about dating smokers which is a different matter entirely.

Some people probably do exaggerate the smell, but for a lot of people, myself included, it is quite nasty and not something we could, or should have to put up with.

Btw, Cheryl is the only celebrity I'd shag out of the ones that were listed earlier. The rest I wouldn't touch regardless of whether or not they are smokers.

recipio · 19-07-2015 10:23AM

Smoking is repulsive. Having worked in the health services however its obvious that smokers attract smokers and vice- versa.
In a hundred years, when people look at old movies I'm sure they are going to wonder why people needed little white sticks between their fingers to function.

Would you date a smoker?

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