Instagram have banned #curvy hastag

Duckjob · 18-07-2015 11:11AM

I never could get my head around the huge taboo we've built up in society around fatness in general and female fatness in particular. If you're fat, you're fat. If you're happy to be fat, fine. if not you can change it if you want to by:
1) Eating less crap
2) Getting move active.

It's not rocket science.

PizzamanIRL · 18-07-2015 11:22AM

What if I wanted to take a picture of a very dangerous, curvy road and give it the curvy hashtag?

Cold War Kid · 18-07-2015 11:25AM

I don't think any liberal would support a banning of fat people on Instagram.

Eat less move more is an extremely reductive way of looking at it. It's not as if people dont know this.
It fails to take into consideration any mental issues people could have (doubt anyone actually wants to be fat) or food addiction.

Plus people can be very ignorant about nutrition and exercise - deeming less pizza and a stroll to be a good strategy towards weight loss. After all it literally is "eating less moving more".

18-07-2015 11:28AM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

I don't think any liberal would support a banning of fat people on Instagram.

Eat less move more is an extremely reductive way of looking at it. It's not as if people dont know this.
It fails to take into consideration any mental issues people could have (doubt anyone actually wants to be fat) or food addiction.

Plus people can be very ignorant about nutrition and exercise - deeming less pizza and a stroll to be a good strategy towards weight loss. After all it literally is "eating less moving more".

This is why I think that healthy living modules need to be introduced at primary and secondary level education, with parents backing it up at home. We were lucky in my family, because my parents rarely ever had junk food and we were all encouraged to partake in some form of exercise or activities.

Like it or not, we're at the cusp of an obesity epidemic - one that isn't going to go away unless we curb it now.

Greenmachine · 18-07-2015 11:33AM

Curvy just seem like a serious misnomer, anyone who is not a stick figure seems to claim it. A girl who is a size 16 or even a 36 can claim to be curvy. At what point does it begin to lose all meaning.

zeffabelli · 18-07-2015 11:34AM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Would strongly disagree with the above..

Yes, women do get fat shamed more, only recently I condemned how Katie Hopkins spoke about Kelly Clarkson's appearance on the Graham Norton show but to say that this is something that is "pretty much entirely aimed at women" is incorrect. Maybe at one time it was, but that day has long since passed. Just been watching Big Brother and one of the contestants, Jack, was fat shamed on a daily basis and the biggest culprit of it, was the God damned winner.

Some recent examples:

Sean O'Brien, shamed for dancing whilst being fat.
2016 presidential candidate, Gov. Chris Christie: Chris Christie -- Is He TOO FAT to be President!?
Jonah Hill is overweight but eats more food.
Chris Brown - Belly fat shamed.
Leonardo DiCaprio - Sorry, Leonardo DiFlabrio.
Leonardo DiCaprio - Sorry, The Great Fatsby

You mention misogyny in this context. Surely so, this is misandry.

So, while I accept for sure it's predominantly an issue for women, it's still all the same very much one for men too.

We expect more from public figures.

They get paid to sustain our ideals. No one wants to see fat heroes or leaders.

When you go on these websites like Instagram and Facebook you are to some extent making yourself a public figure.

Can't stand the heat, then don't do it.

hatrickpatrick · 18-07-2015 11:47AM

SJWs getting their way again. God dammit.
Platform providers are not supposed to act as enforcers of "good taste" or "good morals". This trend is genuinely terrifying - the mainstream internet has evolved from thousands of small, individual websites to a handful of large platform providers hosting individual "boxes" for each user instead. Once those start calling the shots of what is and isn't ok to post, internet freedom takes a gigantic amount of damage.

zeffabelli · 18-07-2015 11:49AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

SJWs getting their way again. God dammit.
Platform providers are not supposed to act as enforcers of "good taste" or "good morals". This trend is genuinely terrifying - the mainstream internet has evolved from thousands of small, individual websites to a handful of large platform providers hosting individual "boxes" for each user instead. Once those start calling the shots of what is and isn't ok to post, internet freedom takes a gigantic amount of damage.

It's neo Puritanism. Pops it's head up every few decades.... McCarthy era.... Political correctness... The disease is out of remission again.

hatrickpatrick · 18-07-2015 12:03PM

zeffabelli wrote: »

It's neo Puritanism. Pops it's head up every few decades.... McCarthy era.... Political correctness... The disease is out of remission again.

That's a pretty good point. I suppose the only reason I find it so frightening is because I was lucky enough to grow up in the 90s and the 00s, when internet freedom was at its peak purely because it had grown faster than those who oppose such freedom were able to get a handle on it.

Today, those who oppose the freedom are determinedly trying to sink their fangs into it, but there's a large enough faction of people who experienced the 90s and 00s and are determined to defend it, that it's not an easy battle fo predict the outcome of. The massive sh!tstorm which has engulfed Reddit over the last year or so is a pretty good example of where those who defend it seem to be winning, whereas Facebook banning things like breastfeeding photos is a pretty good example of where the anti-freedom side is winning.

I guess I'm just disappointed because I always felt that Instagram was slightly less loopy than a lot of the other platforms. But now that they're owned by Facebook, I suppose this kind of thing shouldn't be too surprising.

Cold War Kid · 18-07-2015 02:40PM

Patrick and Zeffa, what the hell are ye on about? You're so obsessed with sjw spotting (I kinda feel ye'd be gutted if ye didn't have it to complain about tbh) and repressive political correctness (which I personally never encounter day to day apart from the Internet and people talking about it) that you're blinded by it and applying it where it isn't relevant.

How on earth have ye got it into your heads that sjw types would want fat people images banned from Instagram?

CLEARLY they would take the opposite stance.

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 03:04PM

Greenmachine wrote: »

Curvy just seem like a serious misnomer, anyone who is not a stick figure seems to claim it. A girl who is a size 16 or even a 36 can claim to be curvy. At what point does it begin to lose all meaning.

When you are obese. Size 16 for most females would be obese.

HairMare · 18-07-2015 03:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So you think that anorexic people should be allowed to be comfortable in their own skin? Or do you only have this opinion with fat people?

I think anyone who is hurting no one only themselves has that right to be whatever way they see fit. Obviously no one wants
To see anyone die from either extreme. But you only see people hating on us that are fat

zeffabelli · 18-07-2015 03:08PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Patrick and Zeffa, what the hell are ye on about? You're so obsessed with sjw spotting (I kinda feel ye'd be gutted if ye didn't have it to complain about tbh) and repressive political correctness (which I personally never encounter day to day apart from the Internet and people talking about it) that you're blinded by it and applying it where it isn't relevant.

How on earth have ye got it into your heads that sjw types would want fat people images banned from Instagram?
CLEARLY they would take the opposite stance.

It's nudity phobia.

Remember nipple gate?

PC and the moral police are all sourced from the same cultural infection.

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 03:10PM

zeffabelli wrote: »

It's nudity phobia.

Remember nipple gate?

PC and the moral police are all sourced from the same cultural infection.

Everyone knows Nipples are not suitable for children. :pac:

NachoBusiness · 18-07-2015 03:16PM

zeffabelli wrote: »

We expect more from public figures.

They get paid to sustain our ideals.

Change your username to Bird's Eye will ya, cause that's some waffle you're producing.

They get paid to do their job.

No one wants to see fat heroes or leaders.

Oh so, you've spoken to everyone in the free world have you. Pack it in.

Oryx · 18-07-2015 03:16PM

HairMare wrote: »

I think anyone who is hurting no one only themselves has that right to be whatever way they see fit. Obviously no one wants
To see anyone die from either extreme. But you only see people hating on us that are fat

The thing about only fat people getting body image hate is a lie and has already been discussed.

runawaybishop · 18-07-2015 03:48PM

HairMare wrote: »

I think anyone who is hurting no one only themselves has that right to be whatever way they see fit. Obviously no one wants
To see anyone die from either extreme. But you only see people hating on us that are fat

Ludicrous. Society should especially be looking out for vulnerable people that are harming themselves. Do you really believe we should ignore people that are self harming or attempt suicide also?

Anyway, they aren't hurting anyone but themselves. Aside from the massive cost to our health system that is oncoming it should be safe to assume that these people have friends, family and loved ones who will be hurt when they develop issues due to their weight, develop serious medical problems and die before their time.

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 04:29PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Ludicrous. Society should especially be looking out for vulnerable people that are harming themselves. Do you really believe we should ignore people that are self harming or attempt suicide also?

Anyway, they aren't hurting anyone but themselves. Aside from the massive cost to our health system that is oncoming it should be safe to assume that these people have friends, family and loved ones who will be hurt when they develop issues due to their weight, develop serious medical problems and die before their time.

How can one say that the majority of obese people in society are vulnerable that's ridiculous. Obese people are becoming the majority in the 1st world.

runawaybishop · 18-07-2015 04:33PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

How can one say that the majority of obese people in society are vulnerable that's ridiculous. Obese people are becoming the majority in the 1st world.

You think it's an indicator of a healthy mental state when someone is obese and thinks its healthy? If you are obese and think that it's a positive thing that should be celebrated you have mental issues.

strelok · 18-07-2015 04:36PM

just being a ****ing idiot isn't a mental health issue.

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 04:43PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

You think it's an indicator of a healthy mental state when someone is obese and thinks its healthy? If you are obese and think that it's a positive thing that should be celebrated you have mental issues.

It's environmental. Why does everything have to be a mental health issue.

Penny Tration · 18-07-2015 04:43PM

strelok wrote: »

just being a ****ing idiot isn't a mental health issue.

Anyone who is deluded enough to genuinely believe that being obese is healthy and a good thing is probably mentally ill, not 'a fcuking idiot.'

It's impossible to NOT know that being obese is unhealthy. Any gp appointment you have, you'll be told. Most magazines you read, you'll be told. Medical programmes on tv, they'll tell you too. It's impossible not to know, so if someone truly believes it's healthy, they need a psychiatrist because that level of delusion is indicative of deeper issues.

Oryx · 18-07-2015 04:45PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

How can one say that the majority of obese people in society are vulnerable that's ridiculous. Obese people are becoming the majority in the 1st world.

That is not a good thing.

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 04:50PM

Oryx wrote: »

That is not a good thing.

I have been saying that this entire thread. I was pointing out the use of Most vulnerable in relation to the majority is plainly Ridiculous.

runawaybishop · 18-07-2015 05:16PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

It's environmental. Why does everything have to be a mental health issue.

Because being obese and thinking that is good is not environmental, same as thinking its good to be skinny when you are anorexic isn't environmental. You don't think people that are self harming in this way aren't vulnerable?

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 05:19PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Because being obese and thinking that is good is not environmental, same as thinking its good to be skinny when you are anorexic isn't environmental.

Body dimorphism is different to thinking being fat is grand.

runawaybishop · 18-07-2015 05:27PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Body dimorphism is different to thinking being fat is grand.

These people don't think they are obese, just curvy.

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 05:33PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

These people don't think they are obese, just curvy.

Gis a link to the particular mental illness one is talking about ?

Penny Tration · 18-07-2015 05:35PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Gis a link to the particular mental illness one is talking about ?

All weight related issues have to fall under one very specific mental illness?

darkpagandeath · 18-07-2015 05:36PM

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

All weight related issues have to fall under one very specific mental illness?

Any link will be fine.

Instagram have banned #curvy hastag

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