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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Palatability may be an issue. You may need to mix a small bit of beef nut through it untill they get used to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    I sent a cow to factory this week. She graded U- 4=

    Can someone help explain this grid system to me because it makes no sense to me. Judging by the condition of the cow I sent she looked reasonable but have carried more weight but I had to get rid of her for other reasons. The base price I received was 4€ / kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    I sent a cow to factory this week. She graded U- 4=

    Can someone help explain this grid system to me because it makes no sense to me. Judging by the condition of the cow I sent she looked reasonable but have carried more weight but I had to get rid of her for other reasons. The base price I received was 4€ / kg

    Sounds like a super cow to me, what Carcase weight was she?
    Confirmation is graded E U R O or P. E would be something like a well muscled extreme shaped Belgian Blue cross. P grades would generally be dairy animals like Holsteins. Most animals grade R.
    Each grade is then divided in three ie R-, R= and R+
    Fat scores are graded 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. Fat score 1 is an animal with very little flesh on it whereas fat score 5 is a very fat animal with lots of flesh on it. Each grade is divided in three also ie 3-, 3= and 3+.
    If you look at the back of the journal it shows how animals can get a bonus along with the base price. This only applies to bullocks, heifers and young bulls.
    Cows don't get paid on the grid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    tanko wrote: »
    Sounds like a super cow to me, what Carcase weight was she?
    Confirmation is graded E U R O or P. E would be something like a well muscled extreme shaped Belgian Blue cross. P grades would generally be dairy animals like Holsteins. Most animals grade R.
    Each grade is then divided in three ie R-, R= and R+
    Fat scores are graded 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. Fat score 1 is an animal with very little flesh on it whereas fat score 5 is a very fat animal with lots of flesh on it. Each grade is divided in three also ie 3-, 3= and 3+.
    If you look at the back of the journal it shows how animals can get a bonus along with the base price. This only applies to bullocks, heifers and young bulls.
    Cows don't get paid on the grid.

    Cheer Tanko that helps a bit alright! still there is allot of variables in the whole lot but for keen stock men unlike me it probably makes perfect since.

    This cow was 483kg carcass weight. I assume this is the weight after the waste is removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Cheer Tanko that helps a bit alright! still there is allot of variables in the whole lot but for keen stock men unlike me it probably makes perfect since.

    This cow was 483kg carcass weight. I assume this is the weight after the waste is removed.
    Basically the better shape the animal is and heavier it is the more you get paid.
    Yeah the carcase weight is the weight after the guts, skin, head and lower legs are removed. That cow weighed nearly a tonne when she was alive, don't suppose you have a pic of her? What breed was she?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭jd06


    jd06 wrote: »
    3 heifers heading off this evening

    The first made1643 u=3=
    Second made 1636 r+4-
    Third made 1557 o+4- not too happy with her 4.30 ko 362.
    Missed out on qa on her too.

    The u grade got 4.60
    The r grade got 4.48

    Big animals thought they would do better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    jd06 wrote: »
    The first made1643 u=3=
    Second made 1636 r+4-
    Third made 1557 o+4- not too happy with her 4.30 ko 362.
    Missed out on qa on her too.

    The u grade got 4.60
    The r grade got 4.48

    Big animals thought they would do better

    She got the QA her base was 4.3/KG -12c/kg as she was only O+ however QA 12c brought you back up to 4.3/kg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Sent 30 bullocks away on Monday. 13 exceeded €1800. 7 graded "U". 18 graded "R", and the 5 AA graded O but got the 20 cent bonus. Base price of 4.30. "O" graded cattle we're gaurentee not to be cut - agreed before they were sent.
    20 to 25 to send in the next 3 weeks if that price continues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Sent 30 bullocks away on Monday. 13 exceeded €1800. 7 graded "U". 18 graded "R", and the 5 AA graded O but got the 20 cent bonus. Base price of 4.30. "O" graded cattle we're gaurentee not to be cut - agreed before they were sent.
    20 to 25 to send in the next 3 weeks if that price continues.

    Ching Ching!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Ching Ching!!

    Yeah. Of to buy those great calves ye dairy lads produce now......... ha ha. It's great to be drunk this early in the day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Yeah. Of to buy those great calves ye dairy lads produce now......... ha ha. It's great to be drunk this early in the day
    Good solid reinvestment plan makes for sound farming!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Got 4.10 for o grade Bulls a few weeks ago. Have another load to go, has there been any improvement since? Also any quotes for o grade cows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Got 4.10 for o grade Bulls a few weeks ago. Have another load to go, has there been any improvement since? Also any quotes for o grade cows?

    will know cow prices tomorrow am, 3.80 feely for o&ps anyway, hoping for a little more but will sell if needs be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Got 4.10 for o grade Bulls a few weeks ago. Have another load to go, has there been any improvement since? Also any quotes for o grade cows?

    Were they under 16mts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Lads is Hay as good as straw as a source of fibre when feeding cattle high levels / ad lib meal ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Lads is Hay as good as straw as a source of fibre when feeding cattle high levels / ad lib meal ???

    I get on ok with it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Lads is Hay as good as straw as a source of fibre when feeding cattle high levels / ad lib meal ???

    Not quiet as good. Mix it 50/50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Were they under 16mts?

    No round 20 months. They averaged 350kg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    No round 20 months. They averaged 350kg.

    What weight were they live. Assuming 700kg at 50% killout. Did ya push them with feeding?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    What weight were they live. Assuming 700kg at 50% killout. Did ya push them with feeding?

    Yeah reckon they averaged round 700kg live. Yeah they were pushed for the last 100 days. They were given as much meal as they could eat for the last 100 days or so. It was our first time doing frs as Bulls. They were autumn born and bought as calves. Didn't do the figures yet as waiting for the last load to go but I'd say any money made was made when they were grazing last year(cheaper weight gain).
    Don't think I'd chance buying any this autumn for killing in 2017.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    What weight were they live. Assuming 700kg at 50% killout. Did ya push them with feeding?

    Yeah reckon they averaged round 700kg live. Yeah they were pushed for the last 100 days. They were given as much meal as they could eat for the last 100 days or so. It was our first time doing frs as Bulls. They were autumn born and bought as calves. Didn't do the figures yet as waiting for the last load to go but I'd say any money made was made when they were grazing last year(cheaper weight gain).
    Don't think I'd chance buying any this autumn for killing in 2017.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Yeah reckon they averaged round 700kg live. Yeah they were pushed for the last 100 days. They were given as much meal as they could eat for the last 100 days or so. It was our first time doing frs as Bulls. They were autumn born and bought as calves. Didn't do the figures yet as waiting for the last load to go but I'd say any money made was made when they were grazing last year(cheaper weight gain).
    Don't think I'd chance buying any this autumn for killing in 2017.


    Jack dids you leave them out for a few weeks during the spring or have they been inside since last autumn. What FS were they at slaughter and did they all grade O+/=. Hard to see value out there at present in calves. Fellas are looking for 350+ for average FR calves.

    Was looking at FR bullocks and 2/kg is what fellas are looking for out of the field.However it is early in the year and store cattle will not be coming on stream for another 6 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Jack dids you leave them out for a few weeks during the spring or have they been inside since last autumn. What FS were they at slaughter and did they all grade O+/=. Hard to see value out there at present in calves. Fellas are looking for 350+ for average FR calves.

    Was looking at FR bullocks and 2/kg is what fellas are looking for out of the field.However it is early in the year and store cattle will not be coming on stream for another 6 weeks.
    They were inside since last autumn. In hindsight they could have went out for
    a month in the spring (the poorer quality ones anyway). There were a few 3's but mostly 2's and all o+ or =. Expect the next load to have a few p's (should have squeezed them).
    Fr Stores might be cheaper later on or next spring. Crazy money for calves this year. Might be safe enough buying anything to be killed next year but not for the year after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    No round 20 months. They averaged 350kg.

    Not bad. What breed? I'd assume they were about 700LW. Did ya give them ad lib for long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Not bad. What breed? I'd assume they were about 700LW. Did ya give them ad lib for long?

    Fresians. Yeah weighed them a week before slaughter and they were averaging close to 700kg. Ad lib for round 100 days but getting plenty of meal since January.
    Out of the batch that's left there are 3 22month old real Holstein type Bulls heading for 800kg. Amazing the thrive they are doing this last month. Eating 13kg of meal a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Fresians. Yeah weighed them a week before slaughter and they were averaging close to 700kg. Ad lib for round 100 days but getting plenty of meal since January.
    Out of the batch that's left there are 3 22month old real Holstein type Bulls heading for 800kg. Amazing the thrive they are doing this last month. Eating 13kg of meal a day.

    would that be about €350 each for nuts? eek.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,713 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    500kg aax heifer 1080 in mart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    would that be about €350 each for nuts? eek.png
    Prob would not including what they ate as calves. The mills need to make money too you know!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Prob would not including what they ate as calves. The mills need to make money too you know!!!

    You did ok out of it. 90 euro to buy and prob reared and fed for 720 including the 90.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,806 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    You did ok out of it. 90 euro to buy and prob reared and fed for 720 including the 90.

    Yeah was hoping to have them reared and fed for 800.


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