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Herd of cattle stolen- IFA €10,000 REWARD

  • 27-06-2015 02:07PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,020 ✭✭✭


    Lads and lassies. Farmer in Westmeath has had his herd decimated by some thieving shower of sh1tes.

    Keep yer eyes peeled. There is more info to be had on other media outlets.
    A Co Westmeath husband and wife have said they are “shocked” and “devastated” after 100 of their animals were stolen on Thursday.
    Niall and Christa Dillon from Kilbeggan, Co Westmeath made contact with the Irish Farmers Journal in order to try and help get information that might lead to the recovery some of the animals.

    “I was up in the factory early on Thursday morning and I was making my way to the outfarm when I saw the padlock of the gate into the place cut,” Niall explained.

    “I rang a neighbour to come up with me in case there was somebody there. When we got up to the place we saw that there was only four cattle left in the field. Seventy five cattle had been taken along with 25 ewes,” Niall said.

    The cattle were nine cows and calves, 40 yearlings and the rest were animals over two years of age. They were a mixture of Charolais, Limousin and Hereford cattle.

    “We called the guards and the Department (of Agriculture) straight away. I’ve been calling everyone I can think of to try and get the message out there in the hope that someone saw something,” Niall added.

    Niall believes that there was as many as three trucks involved as CCTV footage in Tyrellspass saw at least one double-double articulated truck driving in the early hours of Thursday morning.

    Niall and Christa are from Kibeggan but rent the land halfway between Tyrellspass and Kilbeggan. Niall explained the pain of losing stock reared from birth is hard to take.

    “All those cattle bar 12 black whiteheads, were reared from birth here. We saw them grow up and we brought them along. It’s beyond my thinking as to how anyone could take them from us. It’s our livelihood here,” Niall said. It is estimated that the stock were worth in the region of €100,000.

    “All we have left is 20 cows, 10 heifers and four bullocks. Our herd has been destroyed,” Niall concluded.

    Gardaí in Kilbeggan are investigating the theft and anyone with information can make contact with them on 057 933 2102.
    http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmer-has-75-cattle-and-25-sheep-stolen-in-raid-184074/


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Comments

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    It's going to be harder for the rest of us to get insurance with this crap going on, hope they get caught.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,281 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Who would buy these from the thieves without the proper paperwork?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,422 ✭✭✭tanko


    blue5000 wrote: »
    It's going to be harder for the rest of us to get insurance with this crap going on, hope they get caught.

    Yeah, really hope they're caught too, but even if they are what is the punishment likely to be? Probably a slap on the wrists, told not to do it again and maybe a fine. There's feck all deterrents for thieving in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    Im not a farmer but the logistics involved in steeling 100 head of cattle, there was some planning went into that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    tanko wrote:
    Yeah, really hope they're caught too, but even if they are what is the punishment likely to be? Probably a slap on the wrists, told not to do it again and maybe a fine. There's feck all deterrents for thieving in this country.


    Really? I thought this would be a serious crime. Stealing someone's livelihood. 5 or 6 years in prison would be fair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Don't post in here but seen it on the front page, how much would that lot have been worth?

    Forget that, seen in OP was 100k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Stickied to help raise awareness and hope someone recognises some of the cattle

    These are some of the more identifiable cattle, the stranger marked ones may be noticed. The Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/pages/Find-our-livestock-100-Livestock-animals-stolen-from-Kilbeggan/487369291418252?fref=photo has the entire photos of the stolen cattle.
    The donedeal page has them also- http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/stolen-cattle-westmeath/9763875

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    Shower of bastards. And it wouldn't be easy to load that many cattle either. I know of a few lads round here who have stopped moving cattle to outside farms just in case.

    Would not be suprised if these were stolen to order. Fella buys fallen cows or calfs cheap or mostly likely dead ones then orders new tags and re tags the stolen ones. Eurotags should be on the look out for a high number of replacement tags getting ordered.

    It's strange in a way but we all know our own. Most of our cows are either all black or all brown but I would know them as soon as I saw them without any tag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,714 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    is micro chipping expensive? Would it work on cattle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,281 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Again lads, how would the thieves sell these on without the proper papers?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    Again lads, how would the thieves sell these on without the proper papers?


    Read post #9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    Again lads, how would the thieves sell these on without the proper papers?

    They wouldn't
    There would have to be some sort of elaborate fraud involved.
    Someone not recording dead animals and collecting cards ordering new tags.
    Or abbitor killing and selling meat illegally on the black market.
    However it's done I would suspect a lot of people are involved.
    This is more than the work of a few farmers
    Otherwise discrepancys would be picked up during tb tests etc.
    There would be a market for some sort of satellite tracking device that the animal could injest as a bolas or attached to the hoof in some way.
    A microchip in the animals tail or somewhere ineadable like behind the ear would also be a good idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Pacoa


    Wouldn't they just find the signal and cut out the microchip?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    Pacoa wrote:
    Wouldn't they just find the signal and cut out the microchip?


    That'd be alot of work in the farmers field while trying to rob the animals? If they brought the animals back to their own place to do it the the last location could be found?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    Something just doesn't add up here. I don't think to many rustlers would have the nerve to steal 100 cattle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    Sorry now, I'm ignorant when it comes to farming but I have one quick question.

    How in the name of jasus did they steal 100 animals?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    The animals might not have been near any houses. 2 or 3 trips or even 2 or 3 lorrys? I'd say that robbing them is the easy part, hiding or selling them would be difficult.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 260 ✭✭Jimlh86


    djmc wrote: »
    They wouldn't
    There would have to be some sort of elaborate fraud involved.
    Someone not recording dead animals and collecting cards ordering new tags.
    Or abbitor killing and selling meat illegally on the black market.
    However it's done I would suspect a lot of people are involved.
    This is more than the work of a few farmers
    Otherwise discrepancys would be picked up during tb tests etc.
    There would be a market for some sort of satellite tracking device that the animal could injest as a bolas or attached to the hoof in some way.
    A microchip in the animals tail or somewhere ineadable like behind the ear would also be a good idea.

    The horrible thing is any of the people involved and as you said that would be a lot, are some way involved in farming/ argriculture and know the blood sweat and tears it can take to farm! Jail would be too good for them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    The animals might not have been near any houses. 2 or 3 trips or even 2 or 3 lorrys? I'd say that robbing them is the easy part, hiding or selling them would be difficult.

    Yep, they got cctv footage of a lorry and drag trailer (new white scania) and a double decker (white with distinctive white skirting) driving at speed through Tyrrellspass at 2.01am Thurs morning. Easily fit all those cattle in the lorries and the sheep in the trailer.

    I see on their Facebook page that copies of the photos of the cattle have been issued to all factories and the factory vets have been warned to be extra vigilant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,714 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Kovu wrote: »
    Yep, they got cctv footage of a lorry and drag trailer (new white scania) and a double decker (white with distinctive white skirting) driving at speed through Tyrrellspass at 2.01am Thurs morning. Easily fit all those cattle in the lorries and the sheep in the trailer.

    I see on their Facebook page that copies of the photos of the cattle have been issued to all factories and the factory vets have been warned to be extra vigilant.
    would be great if they could post a pic of the lorry, not sure there would be too many similar around


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    whelan2 wrote: »
    would be great if they could post a pic of the lorry, not sure there would be too many similar around

    Wouldn't it! Or even one similar. Is there some law about CCTV or something preventing them from showing it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Kovu wrote: »
    Wouldn't it! Or even one similar. Is there some law about CCTV or something preventing them from showing it?

    Not at all don't crime call show stuff all the time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    dzer2 wrote: »
    Not at all don't crime call show stuff all the time

    Yea that's what I was thinking. Maybe it's because they can't prove it was those lorries though? Bit odd that we've not been given a photo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Kovu wrote: »
    Yea that's what I was thinking. Maybe it's because they can't prove it was those lorries though? Bit odd that we've not been given a photo.

    I'm guessing the guards shouldn't have much trouble finding out who owns the truck if they can get it on camera


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    Really? I thought this would be a serious crime. Stealing someone's livelihood. 5 or 6 years in prison would be fair.

    I'd be inclined to add a 1 before the 5 and 6. If that kind of stuff went on in America, there would be long holidays for the perpetrators.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    Definitely, but this is Ireland. The softest justice system in the world id say. People are getting out in less than that for murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Could be a clandestine slaughter outfit. Hide the animals slaughter them and sell the meat on the black market. PSNI caught a crowd at it in the north recently. Butchering in the back of a lorry in one case.
    Replacement tags can be got within 24 hours once the cards are on your profile
    Could a factory handle a few animals after hours when staff have gone home?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    I know they were valued at 100k but is that the price the live animals are worth, or the meat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,618 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Kovu wrote: »
    Wouldn't it! Or even one similar. Is there some law about CCTV or something preventing them from showing it?

    Believe it or not your right. Cctv looks like it might not be allowed to be used in evidence in the future


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,661 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Believe it or not your right. Cctv looks like it might not be allowed to be used in evidence in the future
    From what I understand (stand corrected) unless the perpetrators of a crime are made aware that CCTV is in place with the appropriate sinage/warning/vocal warning then it cannot be used against them in court.
    However if I was to catch these fellas in the act of stealing our or my neighbours cattle, I understand that lawfully I have to verbally warn them that I intend to protect my livestock and at the same time phone the local Garda Station.


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