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Best Enigma 2 boxes?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    It's interesting to note that changing the file from noforce to force did the trick as I flashed a box albeit an LX1 "which was very cheap and uses the same image" without changing anything and it works fine. seems to be an issue though.
    http://www.world-of-satellite.com/archive/index.php/t-39083.html
    Anyhow bought this baby off Satkondor andd have to say it's impressive.

    http://www.satkontor.de/vu-solo-full-hd-1080p-twin-linux-receiver-pvr-ready.html

    Out of curiosity what does the solo do that the LX2 cannot?
    Is it really worth the extra €140?
    You could have got 2 LX2 for the price of 1 Solo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    thats a solo2 twin sat receiver,one of the best boxes to have,they say its got the fastest boot time.

    that was an old post from wos,things have moved on since then,and very hard to keep up with images now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,830 ✭✭✭swoofer


    it has a higher spec, 2 x tuners as standard, 3 x usb, 1 gigabit lan, faster chip, 1.3mhz, more memory , space for internal hdd, 1gb memory, but 256mb flash, and it can take any image, also blazingly fast and lots of support, is that worth 140 euro, you would have to have both and compare side by side. A great remote and you can use BH image.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Solo 2 is a great box but for €142 the LX2 is suberb value. I dunno is there a box at the same price that is any better.I have only played around with the LX 2 a bit but I can't find fault with it.
    I suppose it all depends what you want/need from a box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    swoofer wrote: »
    it has a higher spec, 2 x tuners as standard, 3 x usb, 1 gigabit lan, faster chip, 1.3mhz, more memory , space for internal hdd, 1gb memory, but 256mb flash, and it can take any image, also blazingly fast and lots of support, is that worth 140 euro, you would have to have both and compare side by side. A great remote and you can use BH image.

    All thats sounds great. Its sounds like a great box. I too own 2 receivers with almost similar specs to above. But I also own an LX2.

    what exactly do you use the receiver for?

    Watch tv? Yes you can do that on the LX2 too.
    Record tv, record 2 channels at same time, record one channel watch another? Ya the LX2 can do that too.
    Watch IPTV, OnDemand etc? Ya you guessed it, the LX2 can do that too....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,830 ✭✭✭swoofer


    can it run BH image?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    givecredit wrote: »
    Out of curiosity what does the solo do that the LX2 cannot?
    Is it really worth the extra €140?
    You could have got 2 LX2 for the price of 1 Solo.
    Yes you could and for most users that would do just fine. However it's such a great piece of kit, Blazingly fast and just does everything so much quicker. Oh and it supports picture in picture which is great for the racing, football, etc and the boot time, well you get the picture!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Solo 2 is a great box but for €142 the LX2 is suberb value. I dunno is there a box at the same price that is any better.I have only played around with the LX 2 a bit but I can't find fault with it.
    I suppose it all depends what you want/need from a box.

    The lx2 is great value as you say. My first box (which i still have) is this.http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/Digital-Satellite-Receivers/Miraclebox-Linux-HD-Receivers/Miraclebox-Premium-Mini-Plus-HD-2x-dvb-s-s2
    Now I can tell you quite confidently that this is the very same piece of kit as the LX2. In fact when I'm setting them up I have to turn the miraclebox off as both remotes are the same. the difference in price between the miraclebox and the Lx2 is astounding for the same box.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Blazingly fast and just does everything so much quicker. Oh and it supports picture in picture which is great for the racing, football, etc and the boot time, well you get the picture!;)

    What do you mean Fast and Quicker? Is the News 30mins instead of 60 mins :)

    By the way The LX2, Ya you guessed it, It does picture in picture too.

    As for boot time, Ya it might boot a couple seconds faster, But does that really matter and how many times do you boot up from cold?

    I think various marketing depts are doing a great job in making us believe all these things really matter.

    Anyway Enjoy your "Blazing fast" and "quicker" viewing...Im just in one of those moods tonight;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    givecredit wrote: »
    What do you mean Fast and Quicker? Is the News 30mins instead of 60 mins :)

    By the way The LX2, Ya you guessed it, It does picture in picture too.

    As for boot time, Ya it might boot a couple seconds faster, But does that really matter and how many times do you boot up from cold?

    I think various marketing depts are doing a great job in making us believe all these things really matter.

    Anyway Enjoy your "Blazing fast" and "quicker" viewing...Im just in one of those moods tonight;)

    I can see what you mean Givecredit ,its an interesting topic for discussion.

    The LX2 has a processor speed of 700Mhz which is no slouch ,but the Solo 2 is a dual core 1.3ghz cpu.
    The question is in what situations does the extra processor speed make a noticeable difference.

    Enigma 2 was initially designed to run on a cpu speed of 300Mhz and most processes are still actually optimised for that speed so they dont really take advantage of a faster processor.

    Zapping speed ,epg browsing there should be no discernible difference in speed.
    Most main plugins will run on both receivers at the same speed,crossepg,autobouquets,etc .

    Perhaps more demanding processes like PIP ,multiple recordings ,timeshift,streaming a channel whilst watching another may give better performance on the Solo 2 ,perhaps not.
    Ram is usually the critical factor in these functions and both receivers have the same hefty amount of 512Mb.
    This was the big bottleneck on early E2 receivers like the Dm800 and Dm7025,more so than the cpu speed of 300Mhz.

    @Givecredit
    In what situations do you find the Gigablue Quad outperforms the LX2 ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    givecredit wrote: »
    What do you mean Fast and Quicker? Is the News 30mins instead of 60 mins :)

    By the way The LX2, Ya you guessed it, It does picture in picture too.

    As for boot time, Ya it might boot a couple seconds faster, But does that really matter and how many times do you boot up from cold?

    I think various marketing depts are doing a great job in making us believe all these things really matter.

    Anyway Enjoy your "Blazing fast" and "quicker" viewing...Im just in one of those moods tonight;)

    It's like everything else, if you are not a speed freak then a 1.1l car will do instead of a 2.0l so if that's the case it won't matter to you. How well does the LX2 do picture in picture? Crossepg and auto bouquets run much quicker but again if you set these to night time again you won't notice. channel zapping much faster, again this probably doesn't bother you. I think the LX2 is a fine box but I'm not unhappy I paid the extra for the Solo2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭givecredit


    Zardoz wrote: »
    @Givecredit
    In what situations do you find the Gigablue Quad outperforms the LX2 ?

    To be honest None. It doesnt outperform. I notice no real difference.

    People go on about speed! Autobouquets when set up correctly takes about 45 to 50 seconds on the LX. Similar on the Quad. It take 57 secs on the old reliable dreambox 800hd. Whats 7 secs between friends.

    Channel zapping, Again both similar. Whats a nano second between friends.

    Crossepg operates in a similar fashion on both boxes. To be honest I havent timed them. One might be 1 or 2 seconds faster then the other.

    PIP works well. Do not use it much. But it works.

    Remotestreamconvert works perfectly on the LX2 too, as it does on the Quad.

    But what it has that the LX doesnt is 3 usb and 4 tuners. The 2nd usb at back is handy. The build in DTT tuners are nice too. But the LX2 works nicely with usb dtt.

    All I'm trying to say here is if you are reading this thread thinking about buying "best Enigma 2 box" just because its more expensive doesnt mean is going to be twice as good.

    Main thing to look out for imo is image support. The Quad at 300 euro, the Solo at 280 euro and the LX2 at 140 euro are all well supported.

    If I was starting out again, I know which receivers I'd be buying. LX2!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,830 ✭✭✭swoofer


    but can it run Blackhole Image?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭MrTrebus


    swoofer wrote: »
    but can it run Blackhole Image?

    why does it have to be a blackhole image ???
    Its the one image I personally dont like !
    I find the VTI image the easiest to use, very regular updates and runs more plugins then Im ever gonna use !
    Ive tired pretty much every image there is, and a few of the "backup" images too and have always reverted back to the VTI
    Ive never understood the attraction of the blackhole image if Im honest

    But then, each to their own I suppose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    happy with vix images on all mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    givecredit wrote: »
    To be honest None. It doesnt outperform. I notice no real difference.

    People go on about speed! Autobouquets when set up correctly takes about 45 to 50 seconds on the LX. Similar on the Quad. It take 57 secs on the old reliable dreambox 800hd. Whats 7 secs between friends.

    Channel zapping, Again both similar. Whats a nano second between friends.

    Crossepg operates in a similar fashion on both boxes. To be honest I havent timed them. One might be 1 or 2 seconds faster then the other.

    PIP works well. Do not use it much. But it works.

    Remotestreamconvert works perfectly on the LX2 too, as it does on the Quad.

    But what it has that the LX doesnt is 3 usb and 4 tuners. The 2nd usb at back is handy. The build in DTT tuners are nice too. But the LX2 works nicely with usb dtt.

    Thanks Givecredit for the detailed reply .

    I agree with what you say about the speed of certain plugins like Autobouquets and Crossepg,a few seconds isnt going to make much difference.
    Re zapping speed ,the cam is usually the primary limiting factor for most channels so a faster cpu wont make much difference.
    All I'm trying to say here is if you are reading this thread thinking about buying "best Enigma 2 box" just because its more expensive doesnt mean is going to be twice as good.

    Main thing to look out for imo is image support. The Quad at 300 euro, the Solo at 280 euro and the LX2 at 140 euro are all well supported.

    Very good advice.

    There seem to be alot of new powerful receivers coming out but the software for them is still buggy .
    Certain forums will heavily promote certain new receivers because they are selling them despite the software being not fit for purpose.
    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Sorry guys. I live on the border and I get my purchases delivered to a "uk address". as it generally works out cheaper. :o

    Just a word of warning if people are using Parcelmotel to ship expensive items that the standard liability for a lost item is only 100 euro .

    Snake Plisken has a good post on the topic here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94824876&postcount=46
    Ok I'm a longtime user of Parcelmotel and everything goes well most of the time never an issue with Amazon or eBay, but I did have an expensive controller go missing in February, it was signed for and I could see a picture of it but it never got to my Parcelmotel. I did get refunded in the end as they couldn't find it after extensive searches.
    A couple of key points that might help some
    1) on your account beside the increase liability is a shopping tracker button hit that and fill out details about your packager eg sender, shipping agent, tracking info if available, description of item value. So complete this the moment your item ships. The plus side to doing this is that it increases the standard liability to €250.
    2) if it is a more expensive item it's worth spending the extra to get extended liability be it €500 or €1000.
    3) if your package does go missing ring them every day and look for updates get the name of the person you were talking to and get them to escalate it.
    4) As already mentioned make sure the shipper includes your pm number on the address.
    Hope this helps some of you as I know from experience that is a very frustrating trying to chase Parcelmotel on a missing package.
    __________________


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    can oyu use a internal sata drive on a golden xl2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    irishgeo wrote: »
    can oyu use a internal sata drive on a golden xl2?

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    what usb drives are good with the the golden xl2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    using powered toshiba 1tb and 2tb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    givecredit wrote: »
    What do you mean Fast and Quicker? Is the News 30mins instead of 60 mins :)

    By the way The LX2, Ya you guessed it, It does picture in picture too.

    As for boot time, Ya it might boot a couple seconds faster, But does that really matter and how many times do you boot up from cold?

    I think various marketing depts are doing a great job in making us believe all these things really matter.

    Anyway Enjoy your "Blazing fast" and "quicker" viewing...Im just in one of those moods tonight;)

    Can't find this feature on a box i'm setting up for a mate. I may be missing something but i can't find it.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    with vix image if you went to use the up/down button then you will see all channels on left and p.i.p on top right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I had a Solo 2 and LX 2 running side by side last night and the difference was minimal imo.

    I think the LX2 is excellent for the price.I doubt there is a better E2 twin tuner available at a lower price.The LX2 is really well made and the remote doesn't seem cheap/poor like a lot of the boxes seem to have.I would prefer an external HDD but its not the biggest gripe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    yabadabado wrote: »

    I think the LX2 is excellent for the price.I doubt there is a better E2 twin tuner available at a lower price.The LX2 is really well made and the remote doesn't seem cheap/poor like a lot of the boxes seem to have.I would prefer an external HDD but its not the biggest gripe.

    I wonder how the Zgemma 2S compares to the LX2 as they seem to have an almost identical spec although I'd expect the images to be alot more mature on the LX2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    greasepalm wrote: »
    with vix image if you went to use the up/down button then you will see all channels on left and p.i.p on top right.

    Not available as far as i can see.:confused:

    v2sbdj.jpg
    jztgeo.jpg

    Picture in picture extension allows you to view 2 channels at once. One in the main window and one in a smaller window within the main view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Zardoz wrote: »
    I wonder how the Zgemma 2S compares to the LX2 as they seem to have an almost identical spec although I'd expect the images to be alot more mature on the LX2.

    What sorta price does the 2S sell for?Or what sites sell them,always see the on the Chinese sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    yabadabado wrote: »
    What sorta price does the 2S sell for?Or what sites sell them,always see the on the Chinese sites.

    I've seen them for around 100 euro on Ebay plus Parcel Motel or ~90 euro on Aliexpress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Zardoz wrote: »
    I've seen them for around 100 euro on Ebay plus Parcel Motel or ~90 euro on Aliexpress.
    no comeback really with Ebay or Aliexpress.Still for €90 might be worth the gamble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    yabadabado wrote: »
    no comeback really with Ebay or Aliexpress.Still for €90 might be worth the gamble.

    Thats true but I have bought lots of receivers on Aliexpress over the years and they are all still going strong.
    I stick to the same sellers .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    I've bought a few zgemma 2s off eBay for about a 100. Great box . There's a new zgemma star s (single tuner) on eBay for 70/80 .


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