Equality of marriage and love

SpaceTime wrote: »

I just wish they'd hurry up though! I've at least two gay weddings to go to in 2016...

SW wrote: »

you can practically see the withering look from the judge in the text :pac:

Turtwig wrote: »

The gaystapo have spies everywhere!:eek:

Cabaal wrote: »

Did abit of research about the chap from Kilkenny, seems he's pretty religious alright. Curious if he has links to any of those American groups that fund Iona & Co or was he just a pawn for them and their viewpoints.

Shrap wrote: »

I'd say he's a pawn for this Roger Eldridge bloke, if anything. That's how it appeared in court. Source says, although definite feeling of YD in the back pews, there were no obvious movers and shakers and they reckon that even MFM knew this was a waste of time. Am thinking these are little folk now landed with a big bill.

Dudess wrote: »

Hmmm. I too often wondered why this, of all cases, attracted such massive attention. I suppose his cockiness throughout. Possibly his Late Late appearance shortly after the murder. He was so calm - not shocked calm, but completely blasé.
Glad he went down, but every shred of evidence was circumstantial - I wonder will this set a precedent for future cases. I mean, it was pretty darn obvious that O'Reilly did it, but what about other cases riding on purely circumstantial evidence? An appeal, or several, is on the cards, no doubt.
And I wonder will there be some sort of support from men's groups on the strength of his emails criticising his wife and her alleged treatment of their sons? As well as his concern about custody once they broke up? I wonder if John Waters, Roger Eldridge et al will voice their concern - not in support for a convicted murderer, but maybe making a "look what men can be driven to"-type argument. I remember similar points were made the time that guy in Cork abducted his little girl and went into hiding for about 18 months, only to shoot her and himself when the net closed in.

Wertz: you didn't post a comment on the 43-page Maddy thread? Good on you - you obviously don't waste as much time on Boards as some of us do!!

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Who's Roger Eldridge? I just searched for him on Boards, all I got was this:

2 July 2009

For the attention of the Minister for Justice

I am the Executive Director of the Family Rights and Responsibilities Institute of Ireland.

We were set up by the National Mens Council of Ireland and Mothers at Home organisations who between then represent the Family men and women of Ireland.

Our aims and objectives are to encourage, support and protect the Family founded on Marriage.

The institution of marriage is under attack from many quarters and we operate a Family Help and Marriage Reconciliation Group for spouses who wish to protect the integrity of their Marriage and protect their children from unlawful interference from any third party. Much to our dismay the majority of attacks on the Family founded on Marriage come from State bodies.

One of the members of our Family Help and Marriage Reconciliation Group, Mr Maurice Lyons of Courtnabooly West, Callan, Kilkenny has been attempting to keep his Marriage going despite his wife having left him and taken the children away – aided and abetted by the State.

He is at all times open to Reconciliation so he has no intention of seeking or being granted a Judicial separation or a Divorce. He has not made an appearance in any legal proceedings which would give the Court jurisdiction to make orders involving his Family. In spite of this he has received documents claiming to be valid Orders of the Circuit court granting him a judicial separation. These fraudulent orders have then be used to harass him with threats and he has been forced to make a criminal complaint to the gardai about the perpetrators of this fraud – the solicitors representing his wife and the Court officers. This complaint lies with the Gardai but they are trying to ignore it.

He also has a complaint against members of the gardai who entered his house illegally, again using the fraudulent order to harass and threaten him that is being investigated by the Garda Ombudsman Commission. (GSOC Ref. 840155-04-09)

Today at about 11am three Gardai entered his property and trespassed on the driveway for about an hour. They tried to gain an unlawful entry and set off the burglar alarm. More Garda arrived and they starting knocking his front door down and did some considerable damage.

Mr Lyons asked through the window what their purpose was and he was told they had a Warrant for his arrest. They refused to give him a copy of it and instead five gardai handled him very roughly and held him whilst handcuffing him.

He was then taken to Kilkenny Garda Station and that is where he remains. He was allowed a one minute conversation with me where he relayed this account to me of what happened.

In essence Mr Lyons has been arrested because he is open to reconciliation. Gardai using public monies are being used, like a private army, to intimidate Mr Lyons and force him to give the court jurisdiction to break up his Marriage against his wishes.

It is likely that the Gardai are being used, like a private army, to remove Mr Lyons from his home so that another person can gain entry to it and force him out.

It is also possible that this intimidation could be being used by the Gardai, as in Donegal, to prevent a proper investigation and charges against members of the force.

In the circumstances this detention appears to be without proper process and in violation of the Constitution rights of him and his Family. We assert that Mr Lyons should be released immediately and the matter investigated.

There are a large number of citizens in support of the institution of Marriage from around the country who are following this matter and will be making their protest known if the matter is not dealt with satisfactorily. We trust the minister will do the right thing.


God bless, Roger Eldridge

Executive Director, Family Rights and Responsibilities Institute of Ireland, Knockvicar, Boyle, Co. Roscommon

Turtwig wrote: »

I think the Kilkenny chap has used the right to be forgotten feature. There's a huge discontinuity in link searchs for his previous court appearances. Yesterday there was also a dearth of results for his name despite it being news headline material.

Could of course be wrong.

Cabaal wrote: »

What's a ball figure for taking a legal challenge like this?

It only costs if you lose! The lads today have to pay fees for two senior counsel, two junior, time put in, appearances and a few other court officials. Today prob cost north of 20,000 to 50,000. Bringing the case in the first place only costs a few euro to file the papers. High court costs run about 10,000 per day but they took on two respondents, Ireland (the AG) and the Referendum Commission. Silly boys.

That's v much an estimate and I'm going by the massive books of documents the state had, put together at short notice with lots of midnight oil being burned. Of course the boys had a case each so that's prob 20,000 each approx. Not sure where a gardener and a sparks will find that....