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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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    #242
    Razor44
    Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Razor44


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    There's a 4th 757 due? What will it operate?

    there a 5th to come as well! in 2019. unless of course EI move on the A321NeoLR in the mean time and the order changes. I assume they want the 757's to open up thinner routes and give EI more scope in terms of wides bodys. They hope to have 9 A350's eventually.4

    page 20 http://corporate.aerlingus.com/investorrelations/regulatorynews/2014pressreleases/AerLingus_september_analyst_presentation.pdf


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    #243
    JCX BXC
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    I assume that the 4th will be based in DUB?


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    #244
    Preset No.3
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Preset No.3


    zone 1 wrote: »
    more boeings.....fleet becoming old

    And this will affect you how?


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    #245
    zone 1
    Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭zone 1


    your right it wont affect me in anyway? i was just saying having 20 plus year old planes cost lot to run . i see there getting 767 20 plus years old . just wondering...


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    #246
    Tenger
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    zone 1 wrote: »
    your right it wont affect me in anyway? i was just saying having 20 plus year old planes cost lot to run . i see there getting 767 20 plus years old . just wondering...

    Well the B757's are on a 4-5 year damp lease operation. So EI pay a flat rate and Air Contractors are dealing with the running costs of the B757's.
    And there really is no alternative to the B757's......B767/A330 is larger and thus harder to fill, A320/B737 dont have the range to compete with it...........
    .....at least until Airbus get the A321LR into the air.

    The Omni B767 is a 12 week lease. So EI aren't 'running it' either.

    I do get your point about older aircraft. The travelling public do look at aircraft age, not realising that this is less important with aviation than with ground transport. But if the alternative is leasing higher priced newer aircraft which mean higher tickets then the short term older aircraft are a good choice.


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    #247
    zone 1
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    cheers tenger


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    #248
    JCX BXC
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    Where's the capacity coming from for this short haul expansion? Or is or already left over capacity from the summer?


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    #249
    goingnowhere
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Where's the capacity coming from for this short haul expansion? Or is or already left over capacity from the summer?

    2 320's from the now terminated Virgin contact?


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    #250
    man98
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Where's the capacity coming from for this short haul expansion? Or is or already left over capacity from the summer?

    Little Red ops I suppose? They have another due back, and the Agadir (summer only before?) and Liverpool routes are opening this winter, that should cover it.


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    #251
    Snow Leopard
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Snow Leopard


    There's a general obsession nowadays with having the newest of everything.

    Aircraft manufactured in 97-98 are not old aircraft. Certainly middle-aged, but not old. The vast majority of BA's long-haul frames for example were manufactured between 1990 and 2000, and the majority of these will continue operating well into the 2020s.

    A rigorous maintenance programme combined with a cabin refurb every 8-10 years keep aircraft in excellent shape. Anyone who has flown the EI B757s will testify to this. And as mentioned above, there is simply no replacement for the B757 currently available. Without these aircraft the SNN operation would be long gone and it's highly unlikely that YYZ would ever operate over the winter. The A321neoLR will be a fantastic replacement though.


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    #252
    JCX BXC
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    Snow Leopard wrote: »
    Without these aircraft the SNN operation would be long gone

    May I pick you out on a point there, I disagree with that. The SNN operation would not be operating at the current frequency and for JAN-MAR but it would still be operating!

    Of course the 757 is a great aircraft and has helped make the SNN service more sustainable, but that particular statement is incorrect to a point.


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    #253
    Snow Leopard
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    May I pick you out on a point there, I disagree with that. The SNN operation would not be operating at the current frequency and for JAN-MAR but it would still be operating!

    Of course the 757 is a great aircraft and has helped make the SNN service more sustainable, but that particular statement is incorrect to a point.

    Probably best if SNN is discussed on a separate thread as it risks derailing this one.


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    #254
    JCX BXC
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    Snow Leopard wrote: »
    Probably best if SNN is discussed on a separate thread as it risks derailing this one.

    Would you like to discuss it in "Shannon Airport Thread 2014/15"?

    I doubt there's much to discuss anyway.


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    #255
    Snow Leopard
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Snow Leopard


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Would you like to discuss it in "Shannon Airport Thread 2014/15"?

    I doubt there's much to discuss anyway.

    I suspect our opinions on this particular issue are irreconcilable, so let's leave it for today!


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    #256
    Strumms
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    Out of interest, any of you dudes in the know aware as to what airframe will operate the EI544 tomorrow ? Cheers.


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    #257
    JCX BXC
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    Strumms wrote: »
    Out of interest, any of you dudes in the know aware as to what airframe will operate the EI544 tomorrow ? Cheers.

    I had a look at Flightradar to see if I could find a pattern, but no. Everyday is a mixture of A320's and A321's all with different reg's


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    #258
    LoonyLovegood
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    According to the website, tomorrow will be an A320.


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    #259
    Strumms
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    LoonyLovegood wrote: »
    According to the website, tomorrow will be an A320.

    I asked for the airframe not aircraft type.


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    #260
    Preset No.3
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    Strumms wrote: »
    I asked for the airframe not aircraft type.

    EI-DEA


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    #261
    olive20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭olive20


    zone 1 wrote: »
    more boeings.....fleet becoming old

    No 4th 757 as of today I should say


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    #262
    Jack1985
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    Strumms wrote: »
    Out of interest, any of you dudes in the know aware as to what airframe will operate the EI544 tomorrow ? Cheers.

    EI-CVA.


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    #263
    fr336
    Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    EI-CVA.

    We have two different answers, now it gets interesting! :pac:


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    #264
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,939 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    There will be a prize for whoever is right.. :p

    Btw did CVA get repainted in the last week or two.. ? i noticed her as i was driving past as she was parked up in one of the hangers last week and she looked rather nice and shiny.


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    #265
    Tenger
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    olive20 wrote: »
    No 4th 757 as of today I should say

    EI current plans will continue. So if the deal is done on the 4th B757 to add EI expanding capacity/routes then no reason for IAG to interfere.
    Of course the plans are always flexible so who knows what will happen in 6 months with EI.


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    #266
    Preset No.3
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    I just made it up!


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    #267
    Strumms
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    Preset No.3 wrote: »
    I just made it up!

    Yes.. yes you did :p you unreliable .#^#^#^$ ;)

    Pushing back on CVA now.. good man billie1b


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    #268
    Jack1985
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Strumms wrote: »
    Yes.. yes you did :p you unreliable .#^#^#^$ ;)

    Pushing back on CVA now.. good man billie1b

    Excuse me where's my prize? :D
    Strumms wrote: »
    Btw did CVA get repainted in the last week or two.. ? i noticed her as i was driving past as she was parked up in one of the hangers last week and she looked rather nice and shiny.

    No idea, she'll need more than a new lick of paint to make her feel young again the old hag.


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    #269
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,939 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Excuse me where's my prize? :D



    No idea, she'll need more than a new lick of paint to make her feel young again the old hag.

    Sorry Jack.. it was you not billie1b with the info.. thats what happens when you end up drinking Guinness at 8.30 in the morning waiting for your flight :p


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    #270
    billie1b
    Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭billie1b


    Strumms wrote: »
    Sorry Jack.. it was you not billie1b with the info.. thats what happens when you end up drinking Guinness at 8.30 in the morning waiting for your flight :p

    Dammit! And there's me thinking you were thanking me for such an awesome pushback :D


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    #271
    fr336
    Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    billie1b wrote: »
    Dammit! And there's me thinking you were thanking me for such an awesome pushback :D

    This did go through my mind also in my confusion...


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