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Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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    #9932
    Stan27
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Stan27


    What's the story with luke Marshall these days. Ban must be over by now.
    What it the chances of him going to the wc.
    Personally I would hVe him at 12 and henshaw at 13


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    #9933
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Stan27 wrote: »
    What's the story with luke Marshall these days. Ban must be over by now.
    What it the chances of him going to the wc.
    Personally I would hVe him at 12 and henshaw at 13

    Ulsters 3rd choice 12, first choice for Ireland, never happen.


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    #9934
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,415 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Stan27 wrote: »
    What it the chances of him going to the wc.

    Nil.


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    #9935
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,755 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Stan27 wrote: »
    What's the story with luke Marshall these days. Ban must be over by now.
    What it the chances of him going to the wc.
    Personally I would hVe him at 12 and henshaw at 13

    Not sure where he is to be honest. I saw on Bakebook that he was at a Ballymena Academy reunion a few days ago with the likes of Bryan Young and Matt McCullough and coincidentally the guest speaker was Joe Schmidt.

    Maybe he is injured?

    He has zero chance of making the WC squad. I fear his Ulster days are done. Hope I'm wrong because I've always been a fan but I feel he has never been played to his strengths.


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    #9936
    Utah_Saint
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    bilston wrote: »
    Not sure where he is to be honest. I saw on Bakebook that he was at a Ballymena Academy reunion a few days ago with the likes of Bryan Young and Matt McCullough and coincidentally the guest speaker was Joe Schmidt.

    Maybe he is injured?

    He has zero chance of making the WC squad. I fear his Ulster days are done. Hope I'm wrong because I've always been a fan but I feel he has never been played to his strengths.

    Marshall would be a great signing for any of the other provinces. With a bit of form he would be a starter. Irfu should encourage moves like this instead of losing players to other leagues


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    #9937
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Fair play on the Kiwi's for standing firm on their rules.

    It's NZ's version of the gay marriage referendum: country split firmly into yes & no camps. I agree with the decision - imagine if Chris Henry signed for Toulon, but wanted to play the first few games of the next Pro 12 season to fill in time before heading away mid-season to France.

    Piutau will be grand, he's a good player, and I doubt he has any trouble finding a little filler contract before he arrives in Bulfast.


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    #9938
    CatFromHue
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    If he goes to the RWC I'd say he might have some trouble unless a medical joker spot opens up somewhere in France. The earliest he'll be available will be late October but more than likely November which'll be a problem for him in France.

    All Blacks don't come cheap either which is going to be a problem in the Pro12.

    I don't know about Japan.

    So that really only leaves another Super club or England.


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    #9939
    Swiwi.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Swiwi.


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    If he goes to the RWC I'd say he might have some trouble unless a medical joker spot opens up somewhere in France. The earliest he'll be available will be late October but more than likely November which'll be a problem for him in France.

    All Blacks don't come cheap either which is going to be a problem in the Pro12.

    I don't know about Japan.

    So that really only leaves another Super club or England.

    I think he'll make the initial 41 AB squad but miss the final cut. Id say he'd just be keen to play and won't worry too much about the pay. A few IOUs on his Ulster wage.


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    #9940
    stl.ire
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    Swiwi. wrote: »
    I think he'll make the initial 41 AB squad but miss the final cut. Id say he'd just be keen to play and won't worry too much about the pay. A few IOUs on his Ulster wage.

    Let's also not forget that he's down with another ligament injury. He was already a longer shot to make the final AB WC team when that happened. Now with the NZ union effectively banishing him I wouldn't be surprised to see him miss the wider initial team. It's disappointing as he's a classy player and the kind you want at a WC but Steve Hansen has other options that are good (or just inexperienced) and is not a coach who has time for media headaches (which will be huge as selecting him would be akin to selecting an overseas player - during the WC he will no longer a contract in NZ).

    He's too good to not find a short contract quickly and if he does miss the initial squad he will be available for substantial period. Japan is an option but their league is pretty short I think (it ends soon after super rugby's season starts) so he'd still have a long break. Of course, next season Japan will have their own super rugby team! Could Puitau go all in on his villain status? There would be some fun newspaper articles for sure!


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    #9941
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    stl.ire wrote: »
    Let's also not forget that he's down with another ligament injury. He was already a longer shot to make the final AB WC team when that happened. Now with the NZ union effectively banishing him I wouldn't be surprised to see him miss the wider initial team. It's disappointing as he's a classy player and the kind you want at a WC but Steve Hansen has other options that are good (or just inexperienced) and is not a coach who has time for media headaches (which will be huge as selecting him would be akin to selecting an overseas player - during the WC he will no longer a contract in NZ).

    He's too good to not find a short contract quickly and if he does miss the initial squad he will be available for substantial period. Japan is an option but their league is pretty short I think (it ends soon after super rugby's season starts) so he'd still have a long break. Of course, next season Japan will have their own super rugby team! Could Puitau go all in on his villain status? There would be some fun newspaper articles for sure!

    his current contract runs till december.


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    #9942
    stl.ire
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    his current contract runs till december.

    I thought it ended in September. I just checked and you're right. It doesn't change any of my broader points though.


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    #9943
    jacothelad
    Registered Users Posts: 5,911 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    Ulster team & replacements to play Glasgow Warriors, Guinness PRO12 Play Off, Scotstoun, Friday 22nd May (19:45 kick off): (15-9): L Ludik; T Bowe, J Payne, D Cave, C Gilroy, P Jackson, R Pienaar; (1-8): C Black, R Best (C), R Lutton, L Stevenson, D Tuohy, I Henderson, C Henry, R Wilson; Replacements (16-23): R Herring, A Warwick, B Ross, R Diack, S Reidy, P Marshall, S McCloskey, M Allen.


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    #9944
    ssaye2
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    #9945
    .ak
    Registered Users Posts: 30,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭.ak


    This is gonna be a cracker.


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    #9946
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,415 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I like our team, especially Hendo at 6 instead of 4. :)


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    #9947
    ssaye2
    Registered Users Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭ssaye2


    Glasgow 8/13
    Ulster 11/8

    from Paddypower

    Good luck lads


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    #9948
    bilston
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    The tight 5 is the problem. I'd take Best obviously but it would be tight between Tuohy and Gray/Kellock, other than that Glasgow have an edge here. However with the exception of Hogg there isn't a single other Glasgow player that I'd take over his Ulster counterpart. Not that that means a lot.


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    #9949
    Utah_Saint
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    Back line is better than Glasgow.

    Just hope the pack can give us a platform. I see ross has dropped out of the squad. Reidy has been ok when playing....better than ross

    Need a good performance from Stevenson


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    #9950
    total former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭total former


    bilston wrote: »
    The tight 5 is the problem. I'd take Best obviously but it would be tight between Tuohy and Gray/Kellock, other than that Glasgow have an edge here. However with the exception of Hogg there isn't a single other Glasgow player that I'd take over his Ulster counterpart. Not that that means a lot.

    TBH it's the props are the problem, especially TH. Is Calum Black better than Warwick? Lutton looked half-decent a couple of seasons ago but this could be a bridge too far, has he started a single game this year?


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    #9951
    blackdog1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    Back line is better than Glasgow.

    Just hope the pack can give us a platform. I see ross has dropped out of the squad. Reidy has been ok when playing....better than ross

    Need a good performance from Stevenson

    Stevenson in the row and diack on the bench is a weird one. Ross deserved to be dropped he missed too many tackles but Reidy is to light in the contact area too it's McComish I feel sorry for. He was playing very well until he got dropped.


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    #9952
    shuffol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    awec wrote: »
    I like our team, especially Hendo at 6 instead of 4. :)

    Whatever about Henderson's relative merits at 4 or 6 I think most would agree that Diack is a far more competent player than Stevenson.

    Has Diack been injured of late btw?


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    #9953
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,755 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    shuffol wrote: »
    Whatever about Henderson's relative merits at 4 or 6 I think most would agree that Diack is a far more competent player than Stevenson.

    Has Diack been injured of late btw?

    The issue is do you get your best players on the pitch, ie Diack over Stevenson meaning that Henderson plays second row. Or do you let your best player (atm I think he is our best player) play his best position meaning you select an inferior player ahead of Diack?

    That's the dilemma. You can argue it both ways I suppose.

    There was a third option. Play Diack in the second row ahead of Stevenson.


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    #9954
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I think without Herbst the concern is the scrum - Stevenson is no magic ball player, but he will shore up that set-piece.


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    #9955
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,415 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The difference between Diack and Stevenson is not great enough to justify playing Henderson in the row.


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    #9956
    bilston
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    awec wrote: »
    The difference between Diack and Stevenson is not great enough to justify playing Henderson in the row.

    I think my issue is more with Stevenson than anything else. I just see him make too many mistakes or give away too many penalties for my liking.


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    #9957
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,415 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Has anyone seen this?

    http://www.raineyoldboysrfc.com/Joomla/

    "Rainey have pulled of a real coup by recruiting Ireland and Ulster centre Luke Marshall as backs coach for next season."

    "Marshall is entering the final year of his contract with Ulster and is keen to build up experience in a coaching capacity."

    Sounds like Luke Marshall's playing days are coming to an end...


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    #9958
    .ak
    Registered Users Posts: 30,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭.ak


    awec wrote: »
    Has anyone seen this?

    http://www.raineyoldboysrfc.com/Joomla/

    "Rainey have pulled of a real coup by recruiting Ireland and Ulster centre Luke Marshall as backs coach for next season."

    "Marshall is entering the final year of his contract with Ulster and is keen to build up experience in a coaching capacity."

    Sounds like Luke Marshall's playing days are coming to an end...

    Sounds more like he's ensuring he has a future in rugby just incase the worst happens. Good on him.


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    #9959
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,755 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    awec wrote: »
    Has anyone seen this?

    http://www.raineyoldboysrfc.com/Joomla/

    "Rainey have pulled of a real coup by recruiting Ireland and Ulster centre Luke Marshall as backs coach for next season."

    "Marshall is entering the final year of his contract with Ulster and is keen to build up experience in a coaching capacity."

    Sounds like Luke Marshall's playing days are coming to an end...

    Heard that earlier. As a.k. says he is maybe just building up his coaching experience in the event that he does have to retire. He was and still is a player of great promise. I hope we haven't seen the last of him. You do have to wonder where he is at the moment though.


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    #9960
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,074 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    awec wrote: »
    Has anyone seen this?

    http://www.raineyoldboysrfc.com/Joomla/

    "Rainey have pulled of a real coup by recruiting Ireland and Ulster centre Luke Marshall as backs coach for next season."

    "Marshall is entering the final year of his contract with Ulster and is keen to build up experience in a coaching capacity."

    Sounds like Luke Marshall's playing days are coming to an end...

    I hope there is no threat to his career, but given his bad run of consussions, he is probably making contingency plans - good man.


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    #9961
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,755 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Game day lads and lasses. Let's put it up to these guys. This is basically a derby match for us nowadays. The spite is beginning to grow between these sides as well. It should be a noisy atmosphere. Hopefully it's a dry deck and we can play some ball.

    C'mon Ulster!!!!


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