Flightradar24 Thread Part II

pepe the prawn · 03-04-2015 10:56AM

jace_da_face wrote: »

No doubt but could it have been confounded by other matters is all I'm wondering.

You're speculating. You were on an airliner during a windy night which resulted in a few missed approaches and a bit of a roller coaster ride for the passengers. It happens every day in many parts of the world.

And as for the "retired ATC controller" saying things weren't good, he should know better than to be alarming passengers with stupid statements. If he really was an ATC he'd have encountered scenarios like that on a regular basis.

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:01AM

arubex wrote: »

The oldest 757 I've found so far is D-ALEA, built in 1982 and still flying with EAT / DHL out of Leipzig. Line number 9! And they have number 10 as D-ALEB.

Stil looks awesome

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-alea/

Nice!

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:18AM

What are my chances of operations still being on 34 in two hours time? I covet a picture of the 777 going over the house and I missed it last time.

It's due in at 12.39 per FR at the moment.

JCX BXC · 03-04-2015 11:21AM

Calina wrote: »

What are my chances of operations still being on 34 in two hours time? I covet a picture of the 777 going over the house and I missed it last time.

It's due in at 12.39 per FR at the moment.

I'd say strong enough. Both runways have an equal crosswind but when the wind starts to gust it'll start heading a more north west direction so your better landing on RWY 34 so I'd say that'll be kept in use.

Edit: looks like all planes holding off DUB, maybe their switching?

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:26AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

I'd say strong enough. Both runways have an equal crosswind but when the wind starts to gust it'll start heading a more north west direction so your better landing on RWY 34 so I'd say that'll be kept in use.

Edit: looks like all planes holding off DUB, maybe their switching?

SAS is literally just gone over head. I don't know,.

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:26AM

Still on 34 going forward.

JCX BXC · 03-04-2015 11:27AM

Calina wrote: »

SAS is literally just gone over head. I don't know,.

He was last in the line. Looks like someone's going to make an approach for 28.

Eidt: EI155 Now on approach RWY34

JCX BXC · 03-04-2015 11:27AM

fr336 wrote: »

Still on 34 going forward.

What in the name of god are they doing so?

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:28AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

What in the name of god are they doing so?

Don't know but holding is breaking off now.

03-04-2015 11:28AM

Calina wrote: »

What are my chances of operations still being on 34 in two hours time? I covet a picture of the 777 going over the house and I missed it last time.

It's due in at 12.39 per FR at the moment.

Slim as he will most likely ask for 28 for operational reasons as he is so big, TAF shows a slackening wind. His request plus a few heavy departures requesting 28 could be the tipping point for a change back.

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:29AM

EI155 looks like it's heading for 34. Not sure though as it's still off the Wicklow coast.

I only looked because I heard a Ryanair go over about 20 minutes ago and was surprised because it had been quiet most of the morning and I hadn't noticed the wind.

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:29AM

Helicopter on 34 approach path, hence the delays..heli is priority

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:30AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Slim as he will most likely ask for 28 for operational reasons as he is so big, TAF shows a slackening wind. His request plus a few heavy departures requesting 28 could be the tipping point for a change back.

He has landed on 34 a couple of times though. I just happened not to be camera ready on either occasion.

Hence my desire. I've a list of interesting stuff to be watching here.

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:31AM

I'll get the Germanwings in a little while anyway - that looks to be lining up on 34.

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:33AM

Shamrock A330 taking off from 28 http://www.flightradar24.com/EIN105/5e8f25a

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:39AM

fr336 wrote: »

Shamrock A330 taking off from 28 http://www.flightradar24.com/EIN105/5e8f25a

Yeah, I saw that. It must be borderline up there as to which is most appropriate atm. LIke I said I was surprised.

Was cold out there just now for the Lufthansa

billie1b · 03-04-2015 11:43AM

fr336 wrote: »

Shamrock A330 taking off from 28 http://www.flightradar24.com/EIN105/5e8f25a

Shamrock 330 landing on 16/34 would be common enough, they very very very rarely take off from 16/34, even in heavy winds they'll take 10/28

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:46AM

billie1b wrote: »

Shamrock 330 landing on 16/34 would be common enough, they very very very rarely take off from 16/34, even in heavy winds they'll take 10/28

Any ideas why?

billie1b · 03-04-2015 11:51AM

fr336 wrote: »

Any ideas why?

Too heavy for it would be my guess, the only time I have ever seen an EI 330 take off from 16 was a Malaga morning flight, apart from that ive never seen a US east or west coast go from 16/34

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:51AM

billie1b wrote: »

Too heavy for it would be my guess, the only time I have ever seen an EI 330 take off from 16 was a Malaga morning flight, apart from that ive never seen a US east or west coast go from 16/34

Ah that explains it

fr336 · 03-04-2015 11:53AM

Having fun http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR25D/5e8e6f8

Calina · 03-04-2015 11:56AM

It's a rotten day to be taking photographs into the sky. Very little useful light.

Even if I get the 777 today I'll be wanting another go some time.

03-04-2015 12:03PM

Calina wrote: »

He has landed on 34 a couple of times though. I just happened not to be camera ready on either occasion.

Hence my desire. I've a list of interesting stuff to be watching here.

A strong enough wind will make it viable and in some cases give them no other option but to use 16 or 34, but if the wind is marginal they will take the extra length and precision approach over what was a VOR approach but from yesterday is an RNAV approach to 34.

Calina · 03-04-2015 12:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

A strong enough wind will make it viable and in some cases give them no other option but to use 16 or 34, but if the wind is marginal they will take the extra length and precision approach over what was a VOR approach but from yesterday is an RNAV approach to 34.

I take your point. I can just sit here in hope.

Could I ask what VOR and RNAV are and the difference between them?

03-04-2015 12:16PM

Calina wrote: »

I take your point. I can just sit here in hope.

Could I ask what VOR and RNAV are and the difference between them?

VOR is based on a ground based nav aid, using radials it is non precision and can have a wide enough final approach track when they fly the radial, it also has a high decision altitude.

RNAV is a satellite based approach, it's track is between several GPS points giving the track a higher accuracy, it has a lower decision altitude depending on which type of RNAV approach the pilots choose to fly.

ILS trumps the above two with its accuracy both lateral and vertical.

03-04-2015 12:21PM

RNAV APPROACH 34

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Published%20Files/AIP%20Files/AD/Chart%20Files/EIDW/EI_AD_2_EIDW_24-32_en.pdf

Decision altitude varies from 450ft to 590ft again depending on type of RNAV flown

VOR APPROACH 34

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Published%20Files/AIP%20Files/AD/Chart%20Files/EIDW/EI_AD_2_EIDW_24-33_en.pdf

Decision altitude is 650ft so as you can see you can descend an extra 200ft

Deatr · 03-04-2015 12:22PM

As far as I was aware the VOR approach to 34 is still in use and now supplemented by a RNAV. Not all operators into or out of DUB are approved for RNAV approaches.

Spanish Eyes · 03-04-2015 12:29PM

fr336 wrote: »

Having fun http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR25D/5e8e6f8

There are a lot of birds in a holding pattern for Dublin now.

I wonder why?

Calina · 03-04-2015 12:30PM

Norwegian is my next plane of interest. Should be a long shortly. And the 777 is off Balbriggan atm.

CardinalJ · 03-04-2015 12:32PM

http://fr24.com//5e90cd8

I've never seen this before. Two gliders circling 50k south of waterford that took off in Germany...?

Is this an error?

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